• Thoughts on this European Physical Journal paper or at least the abstract? 2

    From amirjf@amirjfnin@aim.com to sci.physics.relativity on Mon Apr 27 18:05:32 2026
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    Thoughts on this European Physical Journal paper or at least the abstract?

    https://epjb.epj.org/articles/epjb/abs/2001/22/b0599/b0599.html

    Abstract:

    The east-west directional anisotropy in clock rate observed in the Hafele-Keating experiment
    with circumnavigation atomic clocks is commonly ascribed to the special relativity. In this investigation,
    based on the local-ether wave equation, an entirely different
    interpretation of this anisotropy is presented
    by showing that the clock-rate variation can originate from an intrinsic quantum property of the atom. For
    a harmonic-like wavefunction, the local-ether wave equation leads to a first-order time evolution equation
    similar to Schr-?odingerrCOs equation. However, the time derivative incorporates a speed-dependent factor sim-
    ilar to that in the Lorentz mass-variation law. Consequently, the
    quantum energy, the transition frequency,
    and hence the atomic clock rate decrease with the atom speed by this speed-dependent mass-variation
    factor. According to the local-ether model, the speed is referred
    specifically to a geocentric or heliocentric
    inertial frame for an earthbound or interplanetary clock, respectively.
    It is shown that this restriction on
    reference frame is actually in accord with the various experimental
    results of the anisotropy and the clock-
    rate difference in the Hafele-Keating experiment, the synchronism and
    the clock-rate adjustment in GPS
    (global positioning system), and of the spatial isotropy in the
    Hughes-Drever experiment. Moreover, the
    switching of the unique reference frame is in accord with the
    frequency-shift formulas adopted in earth-
    bound and interplanetary spacecraft microwave links. Meanwhile, the local-ether model predicts a constant
    deviation in frequency shift from the calculated result reported in an interplanetary spacecraft link. This
    discrepancy then provides a means to test the local-ether wave equation.

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  • From ram@ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) to sci.physics.relativity on Wed Apr 29 20:14:14 2026
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    amirjf <amirjfnin@aim.com> wrote or quoted:
    factor. According to the local-ether model, the speed is referred

    Many physicists and critics pretty much see Ching-Chuan
    Su's local-ether model as a solution in search of a problem.
    While it tries to offer a classical, common-sense take on
    electrodynamics, it runs into some serious headwinds when
    held up against Special and General Relativity.

    SR accounts for the Michelson-Morley wash through two simple
    postulates: physical laws are invariant and light speed is
    a constant. Critics argue that tacking on a physical "ether"
    that gets dragged along is just an ad hoc move that muddies
    the waters without actually boosting predictive power.

    Su's model falls back on Galilean relativity. Critics point
    out that Maxwell's equations are naturally Lorentz-invariant;
    trying to shoehorn them into a Galilean frame usually means
    having to doctor them with extra terms that don't have any
    independent experimental legs to stand on.

    A classic knock against "dragged" ether models is stellar
    aberration. If the ether were totally dragged by the
    Earth's surface, as Su claims for local tests, critics
    argue we wouldn't see this shift at all.

    GR reads gravity as spacetime curvature where the metric is
    a dynamical field. Su's model treats the ether as a physical
    medium that thickens with gravitational potential. Critics
    argue GR's geometric path is way better at calling the shots
    on big-picture stuff like black holes.

    Mainstream physics hinges on the Einstein Equivalence
    Principle (EEP), which says the laws of physics are the
    same in any local free-fall frame. Su's model brings in a
    specific reference frame, which critics say flies in the face
    of a symmetry that's been tested to the nth degree.

    Some modern folks suggest GR is basically an ether theory where
    "spacetime" is the medium. But they argue Su's version is a
    dead end because it doesn't lead to the heavy-duty math that
    defines GR's biggest wins.

    Su chalked up a tiny signal in the 1979 Brillet-Hall test to
    ether-wind. Critics stick to the story that these signals are
    just thermal noise or gear instability, since they don't track
    with seasonal cycles the way a real ether-wind would.

    Su claimed his model nailed the Sagnac effect in GPS better, but
    mainstreamers point out the standard correction used in GPS fits
    SR like a glove when you run the numbers in a non-rotating frame.


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  • From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn@PointedEars@web.de to sci.physics.relativity on Thu Apr 30 03:36:13 2026
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    Stefan Ram wrote:
    amirjf <amirjfnin@aim.com> wrote or quoted:
    factor. According to the local-ether model, the speed is referred

    Many physicists and critics pretty much see Ching-Chuan
    Su's local-ether model as a solution in search of a problem.
    While it tries to offer a classical, common-sense take on
    electrodynamics, it runs into some serious headwinds when
    held up against Special and General Relativity.

    SR accounts for the Michelson-Morley wash through two simple
    postulates: physical laws are invariant and light speed is
    a constant. Critics argue that tacking on a physical "ether"
    that gets dragged along is just an ad hoc move that muddies
    the waters without actually boosting predictive power.

    Su's model falls back on Galilean relativity. Critics point
    out that Maxwell's equations are naturally Lorentz-invariant;
    trying to shoehorn them into a Galilean frame usually means
    having to doctor them with extra terms that don't have any
    independent experimental legs to stand on.

    A classic knock against "dragged" ether models is stellar
    aberration. If the ether were totally dragged by the
    Earth's surface, as Su claims for local tests, critics
    argue we wouldn't see this shift at all.

    GR reads gravity as spacetime curvature where the metric is
    a dynamical field. Su's model treats the ether as a physical
    medium that thickens with gravitational potential. Critics
    argue GR's geometric path is way better at calling the shots
    on big-picture stuff like black holes.

    Mainstream physics hinges on the Einstein Equivalence
    Principle (EEP), which says the laws of physics are the
    same in any local free-fall frame. Su's model brings in a
    specific reference frame, which critics say flies in the face
    of a symmetry that's been tested to the nth degree.

    Some modern folks suggest GR is basically an ether theory where
    "spacetime" is the medium. But they argue Su's version is a
    dead end because it doesn't lead to the heavy-duty math that
    defines GR's biggest wins.

    Su chalked up a tiny signal in the 1979 Brillet-Hall test to
    ether-wind. Critics stick to the story that these signals are
    just thermal noise or gear instability, since they don't track
    with seasonal cycles the way a real ether-wind would.

    Su claimed his model nailed the Sagnac effect in GPS better, but
    mainstreamers point out the standard correction used in GPS fits
    SR like a glove when you run the numbers in a non-rotating frame.
    Reads like written by an LLM.
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  • From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity on Wed Apr 29 19:49:52 2026
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    Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

    Stefan Ram wrote:
    amirjf <amirjfnin@aim.com> wrote or quoted:
    factor. According to the local-ether model, the speed is referred

    Many physicists and critics pretty much see Ching-Chuan
    Su's local-ether model as a solution in search of a problem.
    While it tries to offer a classical, common-sense take on
    electrodynamics, it runs into some serious headwinds when
    held up against Special and General Relativity.

    SR accounts for the Michelson-Morley wash through two simple
    postulates: physical laws are invariant and light speed is
    a constant. Critics argue that tacking on a physical "ether"
    that gets dragged along is just an ad hoc move that muddies
    the waters without actually boosting predictive power.

    Su's model falls back on Galilean relativity. Critics point
    out that Maxwell's equations are naturally Lorentz-invariant;
    trying to shoehorn them into a Galilean frame usually means
    having to doctor them with extra terms that don't have any
    independent experimental legs to stand on.

    A classic knock against "dragged" ether models is stellar
    aberration. If the ether were totally dragged by the
    Earth's surface, as Su claims for local tests, critics
    argue we wouldn't see this shift at all.

    GR reads gravity as spacetime curvature where the metric is
    a dynamical field. Su's model treats the ether as a physical
    medium that thickens with gravitational potential. Critics
    argue GR's geometric path is way better at calling the shots
    on big-picture stuff like black holes.

    Mainstream physics hinges on the Einstein Equivalence
    Principle (EEP), which says the laws of physics are the
    same in any local free-fall frame. Su's model brings in a
    specific reference frame, which critics say flies in the face
    of a symmetry that's been tested to the nth degree.

    Some modern folks suggest GR is basically an ether theory where
    "spacetime" is the medium. But they argue Su's version is a
    dead end because it doesn't lead to the heavy-duty math that
    defines GR's biggest wins.

    Su chalked up a tiny signal in the 1979 Brillet-Hall test to
    ether-wind. Critics stick to the story that these signals are
    just thermal noise or gear instability, since they don't track
    with seasonal cycles the way a real ether-wind would.

    Su claimed his model nailed the Sagnac effect in GPS better, but
    mainstreamers point out the standard correction used in GPS fits
    SR like a glove when you run the numbers in a non-rotating frame.
    Reads like written by an LLM.

    An Ai-generated rewrite.




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