• what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth

    From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.physics on Mon Jun 1 08:56:12 2026
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    https://studyfinds.com/what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth-aerospace-engineer-did-math/


    what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth?

    Answer: by not using stupid math from people on earth.



    It's very simple..
    you pop in, you pop out.

    or, you pop out, you pop in.


    Okay, you are a golden retriever...


    How did the universe get in here?

    It popped in!

    Okay, I'm talking to a dog.

    Start with a simple definition:

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in


    in
    /in/
    preposition

    expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.


    a preposition indicating location or position within limits (e.g., oin the houseo).



    Now, How did the universe get 'in' here???


    'In the beginning, ...' of course.


    Now, how do you pop out from in?


    Ask a dog, "What's on top of the house?"


    Dog sez: "roof, roof!"


    Now, ask an alien from outer space, "How did you get here?"



    roof, roof!
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  • From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.physics,sci.logic on Mon Jun 1 23:28:32 2026
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    The Starmaker wrote:

    https://studyfinds.com/what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth-aerospace-engineer-did-math/

    what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth?

    Answer: by not using stupid math from people on earth.

    It's very simple..
    you pop in, you pop out.

    or, you pop out, you pop in.

    Okay, you are a golden retriever...

    How did the universe get in here?

    It popped in!

    Okay, I'm talking to a dog.

    Start with a simple definition:

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in

    in
    /in/
    preposition

    expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.

    a preposition indicating location or position within limits (e.g., oin the houseo).

    Now, How did the universe get 'in' here???

    'In the beginning, ...' of course.

    Now, how do you pop out from in?

    Ask a dog, "What's on top of the house?"

    Dog sez: "roof, roof!"

    Now, ask an alien from outer space, "How did you get here?"

    roof, roof!


    Now, if you ask the alien from outer space...

    "How did you get here?"


    The alien would say..."I can give you the math."

    The alien would then say..."What is math symbol for 'universe?"

    The Math guy would say..."WHAT?"
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  • From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.physics,sci.logic on Tue Jun 2 01:53:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    https://studyfinds.com/what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth-aerospace-engineer-did-math/

    what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth?

    Answer: by not using stupid math from people on earth.

    It's very simple..
    you pop in, you pop out.

    or, you pop out, you pop in.

    Okay, you are a golden retriever...

    How did the universe get in here?

    It popped in!

    Okay, I'm talking to a dog.

    Start with a simple definition:

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in

    in
    /in/
    preposition

    expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.

    a preposition indicating location or position within limits (e.g., oin the houseo).

    Now, How did the universe get 'in' here???

    'In the beginning, ...' of course.

    Now, how do you pop out from in?

    Ask a dog, "What's on top of the house?"

    Dog sez: "roof, roof!"

    Now, ask an alien from outer space, "How did you get here?"

    roof, roof!

    Now, if you ask the alien from outer space...

    "How did you get here?"

    The alien would say..."I can give you the math."

    The alien would then say..."What is math symbol for 'universe?"

    The Math guy would say..."WHAT?"


    "How did you get here?"


    I mean, it's very simple...


    you pop out
    walk a couple of blocks
    pop in
    and you are now at the other side of the universe!

    you 'bypass' the stupid speed of light and time.



    "bypass", look it up.
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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.physics,sci.logic on Tue Jun 2 06:33:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    https://studyfinds.com/what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth-aerospace-engineer-did-math/

    what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth?

    Answer: by not using stupid math from people on earth.

    It's very simple..
    you pop in, you pop out.

    or, you pop out, you pop in.

    Okay, you are a golden retriever...

    How did the universe get in here?

    It popped in!

    Okay, I'm talking to a dog.

    Start with a simple definition:

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in

    in
    /in/
    preposition

    expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.

    a preposition indicating location or position within limits (e.g., rCLin the houserCY).

    Now, How did the universe get 'in' here???

    'In the beginning, ...' of course.

    Now, how do you pop out from in?

    Ask a dog, "What's on top of the house?"

    Dog sez: "roof, roof!"

    Now, ask an alien from outer space, "How did you get here?"

    roof, roof!


    Now, if you ask the alien from outer space...

    "How did you get here?"


    The alien would say..."I can give you the math."

    The alien would then say..."What is math symbol for 'universe?"

    The Math guy would say..."WHAT?"


    I doubt it. The math symbol for 'universe' is 'U'. Duh.
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  • From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn@PointedEars@web.de to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.physics,sci.logic on Tue Jun 2 19:55:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    phoenix wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:
    Now, if you ask the alien from outer space...

    "How did you get here?"


    The alien would say..."I can give you the math."

    The alien would then say..."What is math symbol for 'universe?"

    The Math guy would say..."WHAT?"


    I doubt it. The math symbol for 'universe' is 'U'. Duh.

    It is one possible symbol. The concept of a universe in mathematics is
    (like all those concepts) independent of what symbol one uses for it.

    It is also different from the concept of a universe in astrophysics.

    So the two of you are just writing nonsense based on your half-wit
    knowledge, i.e. ignorance.
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  • From Chris M. Thomasson@chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.physics,sci.logic on Tue Jun 2 14:09:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 6/1/2026 11:28 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    https://studyfinds.com/what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth-aerospace-engineer-did-math/

    what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth?

    Answer: by not using stupid math from people on earth.

    It's very simple..
    you pop in, you pop out.

    or, you pop out, you pop in.

    Okay, you are a golden retriever...

    How did the universe get in here?

    It popped in!

    Okay, I'm talking to a dog.

    Start with a simple definition:

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in

    in
    /in/
    preposition

    expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.

    a preposition indicating location or position within limits (e.g., rCLin the houserCY).

    Now, How did the universe get 'in' here???

    'In the beginning, ...' of course.

    Now, how do you pop out from in?

    Ask a dog, "What's on top of the house?"

    Dog sez: "roof, roof!"

    Now, ask an alien from outer space, "How did you get here?"

    roof, roof!


    Now, if you ask the alien from outer space...

    "How did you get here?"


    The alien would say..."I can give you the math."

    The alien would then say..."What is math symbol for 'universe?"

    The Math guy would say..."WHAT?"

    ask Bob Lazar... ;^D

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  • From Ross Finlayson@ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.physics,sci.logic on Wed Jun 3 00:39:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 06/02/2026 01:53 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    https://studyfinds.com/what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth-aerospace-engineer-did-math/

    what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth?

    Answer: by not using stupid math from people on earth.

    It's very simple..
    you pop in, you pop out.

    or, you pop out, you pop in.

    Okay, you are a golden retriever...

    How did the universe get in here?

    It popped in!

    Okay, I'm talking to a dog.

    Start with a simple definition:

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in

    in
    /in/
    preposition

    expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.

    a preposition indicating location or position within limits (e.g., oin the houseo).

    Now, How did the universe get 'in' here???

    'In the beginning, ...' of course.

    Now, how do you pop out from in?

    Ask a dog, "What's on top of the house?"

    Dog sez: "roof, roof!"

    Now, ask an alien from outer space, "How did you get here?"

    roof, roof!

    Now, if you ask the alien from outer space...

    "How did you get here?"

    The alien would say..."I can give you the math."

    The alien would then say..."What is math symbol for 'universe?"

    The Math guy would say..."WHAT?"


    "How did you get here?"


    I mean, it's very simple...


    you pop out
    walk a couple of blocks
    pop in
    and you are now at the other side of the universe!

    you 'bypass' the stupid speed of light and time.



    "bypass", look it up.






    What it would take for aliens to reach Earth,
    is the same as it would be for humans to reach Space.

    Usually though the idea is to _hide_ Earth from most aliens.


    Anyways a theory with real space-contraction makes for that
    since there's to be different linear and rotational invariance,
    so that the linear is Galilean while the rotational is not,
    making for space-contraction-linear and space-contraction-rotational,
    then with "momentum" as for the "un-linear" not being conserved
    (since it's immediately "lost in the wash" in any kinematic
    system since there are no "perfect inelastic collisions" in nature)
    then has that the terms of relativity theory and for that matter
    mechanics already admit to ignorance "beyond the first order"
    or "beyond the second order" variously, that's where the applicability
    ends and that's yet all the "confirmations" ever say - there's
    room in the formalism for the higher-order terms as simply as
    for spinning bodies and heft, then for that "Dark Matter" gets
    solved as courtesy _classical_ mechanics re-newed, and then "Dark
    Energy" gets solved courtesy a modern theory of light itself,
    then super-luminal motion lives in various models of "relativity"
    theories, for example "doubly-objective relativity of motion
    and also space", that since "gravity's speed is infinite",
    the "light-speed limit" is a bit of a lie.


    The usual idea isn't "what would it take for aliens to reach
    Earth", it's, "what does it take to keep aliens away from Earth".


    If you've never done a deep analysis of all the mathematical formalisms
    and the relevant bodies of experiment, about not just "relativity
    theory" which doesn't really say much except "tensors", yet also
    _classical mechanics itself_, then you don't know.


    See, according to 20'th century relativity theory: the picture of Earth
    in the sky never actually points to the Earth itself.


    Yet, how it does so is an account of "21'st century relativity
    theory", which is doubly-objective so to reclaim some of what's
    lost & missing from the severe reductionist account of gullible SR-ians.



    Yeah, keep looking.



    It involves real continuity and infinity,
    so almost-all can be fooled that it's grainy
    and just a few more than their fingers
    (and even their toes, and other short appendages).


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  • From The Starmaker@starmaker@ix.netcom.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.physics,sci.logic on Mon Jun 8 00:07:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    https://studyfinds.com/what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth-aerospace-engineer-did-math/

    what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth?

    Answer: by not using stupid math from people on earth.

    It's very simple..
    you pop in, you pop out.

    or, you pop out, you pop in.

    Okay, you are a golden retriever...

    How did the universe get in here?

    It popped in!

    Okay, I'm talking to a dog.

    Start with a simple definition:

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in

    in
    /in/
    preposition

    expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.

    a preposition indicating location or position within limits (e.g., oin the houseo).

    Now, How did the universe get 'in' here???

    'In the beginning, ...' of course.

    Now, how do you pop out from in?

    Ask a dog, "What's on top of the house?"

    Dog sez: "roof, roof!"

    Now, ask an alien from outer space, "How did you get here?"

    roof, roof!

    Now, if you ask the alien from outer space...

    "How did you get here?"

    The alien would say..."I can give you the math."

    The alien would then say..."What is math symbol for 'universe?"

    The Math guy would say..."WHAT?"

    "How did you get here?"

    I mean, it's very simple...

    you pop out
    walk a couple of blocks
    pop in
    and you are now at the other side of the universe!

    you 'bypass' the stupid speed of light and time.

    Albert Einstein figured out how to 'bypass' his own speed of light...

    "spooky action at a distance."

    In 'science gargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
    masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
    of the displaced mass.'

    In other words... make a rocketship invisible and transport it to
    another place.



    pop out
    pop in


    most of yous arrived on earth either by popping out or popping in.


    I think it's time for some of yous to ...pop the fuck out of here!

    to a spooky place...
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    and challenge the unchallengeable.
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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.physics,sci.logic,alt.slack on Mon Jun 8 06:24:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    https://studyfinds.com/what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth-aerospace-engineer-did-math/

    what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth?

    Answer: by not using stupid math from people on earth.

    It's very simple..
    you pop in, you pop out.

    or, you pop out, you pop in.

    Okay, you are a golden retriever...

    How did the universe get in here?

    It popped in!

    Okay, I'm talking to a dog.

    Start with a simple definition:

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in

    in
    /in/
    preposition

    expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.

    a preposition indicating location or position within limits (e.g., rCLin the houserCY).

    Now, How did the universe get 'in' here???

    'In the beginning, ...' of course.

    Now, how do you pop out from in?

    Ask a dog, "What's on top of the house?"

    Dog sez: "roof, roof!"

    Now, ask an alien from outer space, "How did you get here?"

    roof, roof!

    Now, if you ask the alien from outer space...

    "How did you get here?"

    The alien would say..."I can give you the math."

    The alien would then say..."What is math symbol for 'universe?"

    The Math guy would say..."WHAT?"

    "How did you get here?"

    I mean, it's very simple...

    you pop out
    walk a couple of blocks
    pop in
    and you are now at the other side of the universe!

    you 'bypass' the stupid speed of light and time.

    Albert Einstein figured out how to 'bypass' his own speed of light...

    "spooky action at a distance."

    In 'science gargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
    of the displaced mass.'

    In other words... make a rocketship invisible and transport it to
    another place.



    pop out
    pop in


    most of yous arrived on earth either by popping out or popping in.


    I think it's time for some of yous to ...pop the fuck out of here!

    to a spooky place...

    Why do scientists rationally believe that 'folding space' is what's
    going to happen? Why not 'throwing monkeys in a furnace' or 'putting
    potatoes on a shelf' or 'paving the universe with asphalt?'

    Why is 'folding space' the ridiculous, abstract, non-sequitur science of choice, science du jour?

    It's still ridiculous science fiction. Give me a break.
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    The waiting is over
    We have gained time
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  • From Ross Finlayson@ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.physics,sci.logic,alt.slack on Mon Jun 8 08:30:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 06/08/2026 05:24 AM, phoenix wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    https://studyfinds.com/what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth-aerospace-engineer-did-math/


    what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth?

    Answer: by not using stupid math from people on earth.

    It's very simple..
    you pop in, you pop out.

    or, you pop out, you pop in.

    Okay, you are a golden retriever...

    How did the universe get in here?

    It popped in!

    Okay, I'm talking to a dog.

    Start with a simple definition:

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in

    in
    /in/
    preposition

    expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be
    enclosed or surrounded by something else.

    a preposition indicating location or position within limits (e.g.,
    rCLin the houserCY).

    Now, How did the universe get 'in' here???

    'In the beginning, ...' of course.

    Now, how do you pop out from in?

    Ask a dog, "What's on top of the house?"

    Dog sez: "roof, roof!"

    Now, ask an alien from outer space, "How did you get here?"

    roof, roof!

    Now, if you ask the alien from outer space...

    "How did you get here?"

    The alien would say..."I can give you the math."

    The alien would then say..."What is math symbol for 'universe?"

    The Math guy would say..."WHAT?"

    "How did you get here?"

    I mean, it's very simple...

    you pop out
    walk a couple of blocks
    pop in
    and you are now at the other side of the universe!

    you 'bypass' the stupid speed of light and time.

    Albert Einstein figured out how to 'bypass' his own speed of light...

    "spooky action at a distance."

    In 'science gargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
    masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
    of the displaced mass.'

    In other words... make a rocketship invisible and transport it to
    another place.



    pop out
    pop in


    most of yous arrived on earth either by popping out or popping in.


    I think it's time for some of yous to ...pop the fuck out of here!

    to a spooky place...

    Why do scientists rationally believe that 'folding space' is what's
    going to happen? Why not 'throwing monkeys in a furnace' or 'putting
    potatoes on a shelf' or 'paving the universe with asphalt?'

    Why is 'folding space' the ridiculous, abstract, non-sequitur science of choice, science du jour?

    It's still ridiculous science fiction. Give me a break.


    Well, first of all, you'd need a reasoning why information can go
    any faster than the speed of light.

    It's not an un-usual idea that gravity's speed is infinite, with
    the idea that three objects in a row can send information to a
    third object in the middle, which can move, then that thusly,
    the destination can immediately detect the movement, gravitationally, effectively doubling light speed ("guide lode").

    Then, the space-time wheel, is after the idea that two systems
    can't observe each other at light-speed, so they each rotate,
    toward light speed, effectively halving light speed ("space-time wheel").


    It's well-known that that solar system, for example, has that
    the effective force of gravity always points at the source
    not the image, so the speed of gravity is greater than the
    speed of light, otherwise gravity would point at the image
    not the source, and the solar system would fly apart.


    Then, for real space-contraction then light speed is a value
    that can be derived as basically twice aether drift velocity.


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  • From Ross Finlayson@ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.physics,sci.logic,alt.slack on Mon Jun 8 08:42:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 06/08/2026 08:30 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
    On 06/08/2026 05:24 AM, phoenix wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    https://studyfinds.com/what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth-aerospace-engineer-did-math/



    what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth?

    Answer: by not using stupid math from people on earth.

    It's very simple..
    you pop in, you pop out.

    or, you pop out, you pop in.

    Okay, you are a golden retriever...

    How did the universe get in here?

    It popped in!

    Okay, I'm talking to a dog.

    Start with a simple definition:

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in >>>>>>
    in
    /in/
    preposition

    expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be >>>>>> enclosed or surrounded by something else.

    a preposition indicating location or position within limits (e.g., >>>>>> rCLin the houserCY).

    Now, How did the universe get 'in' here???

    'In the beginning, ...' of course.

    Now, how do you pop out from in?

    Ask a dog, "What's on top of the house?"

    Dog sez: "roof, roof!"

    Now, ask an alien from outer space, "How did you get here?"

    roof, roof!

    Now, if you ask the alien from outer space...

    "How did you get here?"

    The alien would say..."I can give you the math."

    The alien would then say..."What is math symbol for 'universe?"

    The Math guy would say..."WHAT?"

    "How did you get here?"

    I mean, it's very simple...

    you pop out
    walk a couple of blocks
    pop in
    and you are now at the other side of the universe!

    you 'bypass' the stupid speed of light and time.

    Albert Einstein figured out how to 'bypass' his own speed of light...

    "spooky action at a distance."

    In 'science gargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
    masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location >>> of the displaced mass.'

    In other words... make a rocketship invisible and transport it to
    another place.



    pop out
    pop in


    most of yous arrived on earth either by popping out or popping in.


    I think it's time for some of yous to ...pop the fuck out of here!

    to a spooky place...

    Why do scientists rationally believe that 'folding space' is what's
    going to happen? Why not 'throwing monkeys in a furnace' or 'putting
    potatoes on a shelf' or 'paving the universe with asphalt?'

    Why is 'folding space' the ridiculous, abstract, non-sequitur science of
    choice, science du jour?

    It's still ridiculous science fiction. Give me a break.


    Well, first of all, you'd need a reasoning why information can go
    any faster than the speed of light.

    It's not an un-usual idea that gravity's speed is infinite, with
    the idea that three objects in a row can send information to a
    third object in the middle, which can move, then that thusly,
    the destination can immediately detect the movement, gravitationally, effectively doubling light speed ("guide lode").

    Then, the space-time wheel, is after the idea that two systems
    can't observe each other at light-speed, so they each rotate,
    toward light speed, effectively halving light speed ("space-time wheel").


    It's well-known that that solar system, for example, has that
    the effective force of gravity always points at the source
    not the image, so the speed of gravity is greater than the
    speed of light, otherwise gravity would point at the image
    not the source, and the solar system would fly apart.


    Then, for real space-contraction then light speed is a value
    that can be derived as basically twice aether drift velocity.




    Since setting up a mechanical system over many astronomical units
    or parsecs is non-trivial, mostly it would depend on planetary
    and solar axial alignments, about Moon-Earth, Earth-Sun, Sun-Polaris,
    and so on, about when the planets and stars align, then as with
    regards to the much, much wider surrounds of the galactic and
    super-galactic about that, the projections and these kinds of things.


    At least: it's conceptually simple notions of "guide lode" and
    "space-time wheel", and furthermore science as it is today
    doesn't make them simply farcical or "dis-proven".


    Since Einstein's SR is local, then also light-speed is local.

    That "there are no closed finite time-like curves", and so
    no violation of causality or paradoxes of time, doesn't say
    much about "closed infinitesimal time-like curves", which
    basically reflect chance itself then for that clocks either
    slow or meet, about real space-contraction.


    "Astronomical units" and "parsecs" are both kinds of local, measures.
    This also is already in the theory about differences between
    "length" the metric and "distance" the norm, since usually enough
    people forget they're not the same thing.





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  • From Brennus@brennus@allia.org to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.physics,sci.logic,alt.slack on Mon Jun 8 20:38:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> wrote in news:XSudnX-0F_-bfrv3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 06/08/2026 08:30 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
    On 06/08/2026 05:24 AM, phoenix wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    https://studyfinds.com/what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth >>>>>>> -aerospace-engineer-did-math/



    what-would-it-take-for-aliens-to-reach-earth?

    Answer: by not using stupid math from people on earth.

    It's very simple..
    you pop in, you pop out.

    or, you pop out, you pop in.

    Okay, you are a golden retriever...

    How did the universe get in here?

    It popped in!

    Okay, I'm talking to a dog.

    Start with a simple definition:

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in >>>>>>>
    in
    /in/
    preposition

    expressing the situation of something that is or appears to >>>>>>> be
    enclosed or surrounded by something else.

    a preposition indicating location or position within limits (e.g., >>>>>>> rCLin the houserCY).

    Now, How did the universe get 'in' here???

    'In the beginning, ...' of course.

    Now, how do you pop out from in?

    Ask a dog, "What's on top of the house?"

    Dog sez: "roof, roof!"

    Now, ask an alien from outer space, "How did you get here?"

    roof, roof!

    Now, if you ask the alien from outer space...

    "How did you get here?"

    The alien would say..."I can give you the math."

    The alien would then say..."What is math symbol for 'universe?"

    The Math guy would say..."WHAT?"

    "How did you get here?"

    I mean, it's very simple...

    you pop out
    walk a couple of blocks
    pop in
    and you are now at the other side of the universe!

    you 'bypass' the stupid speed of light and time.

    Albert Einstein figured out how to 'bypass' his own speed of light...

    "spooky action at a distance."

    In 'science gargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on
    other masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new
    location of the displaced mass.'

    In other words... make a rocketship invisible and transport it to
    another place.



    pop out
    pop in


    most of yous arrived on earth either by popping out or popping in.


    I think it's time for some of yous to ...pop the fuck out of here!

    to a spooky place...

    Why do scientists rationally believe that 'folding space' is what's
    going to happen? Why not 'throwing monkeys in a furnace' or 'putting
    potatoes on a shelf' or 'paving the universe with asphalt?'

    Why is 'folding space' the ridiculous, abstract, non-sequitur science
    of choice, science du jour?

    It's still ridiculous science fiction. Give me a break.


    Well, first of all, you'd need a reasoning why information can go
    any faster than the speed of light.

    It's not an un-usual idea that gravity's speed is infinite, with
    the idea that three objects in a row can send information to a
    third object in the middle, which can move, then that thusly,
    the destination can immediately detect the movement, gravitationally,
    effectively doubling light speed ("guide lode").

    Then, the space-time wheel, is after the idea that two systems
    can't observe each other at light-speed, so they each rotate,
    toward light speed, effectively halving light speed ("space-time
    wheel").


    It's well-known that that solar system, for example, has that
    the effective force of gravity always points at the source
    not the image, so the speed of gravity is greater than the
    speed of light, otherwise gravity would point at the image
    not the source, and the solar system would fly apart.


    Then, for real space-contraction then light speed is a value
    that can be derived as basically twice aether drift velocity.




    Since setting up a mechanical system over many astronomical units
    or parsecs is non-trivial, mostly it would depend on planetary
    and solar axial alignments, about Moon-Earth, Earth-Sun, Sun-Polaris,
    and so on, about when the planets and stars align, then as with
    regards to the much, much wider surrounds of the galactic and
    super-galactic about that, the projections and these kinds of things.


    At least: it's conceptually simple notions of "guide lode" and
    "space-time wheel", and furthermore science as it is today
    doesn't make them simply farcical or "dis-proven".


    Since Einstein's SR is local, then also light-speed is local.

    That "there are no closed finite time-like curves", and so
    no violation of causality or paradoxes of time, doesn't say
    much about "closed infinitesimal time-like curves", which
    basically reflect chance itself then for that clocks either
    slow or meet, about real space-contraction.


    "Astronomical units" and "parsecs" are both kinds of local, measures.
    This also is already in the theory about differences between
    "length" the metric and "distance" the norm, since usually enough
    people forget they're not the same thing.







    Your mom's butt is what they use for bigger stuff. LOL!
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