• From Unrusting Blade to Unburning Icarus (Re: Prolog Expert Ginis (PEGs) on a Keychain)

    From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Mon Jul 27 12:19:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Hi,

    Now the SWI community has create a new circus
    example, probably AI generated by a prompt
    enginerring, add a silly greeting line:

    A: Thank you so much for sharing information
    about the LogicBiz V.2.0 project!
    B: Thank you so much for your kind words
    and encouragement!
    A: Thank you so much for your honest and
    heartfelt reply!
    B: Thank you so much for your heartwarming
    and supportive reply!
    A: Thank you for your openness!
    B: Thank you for your valuable feedback!
    A: Thank you for sharing such a detailed
    and impressive technical breakdown!
    B: Thank you for the detailed breakdown!
    A: Thank you for the fascinating perspective! https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/t/the-unrusting-blade-an-offline-first-logicbiz-v-2-0-powered-by-swi-prolog-sqlcipher-reply-01/9752

    The pinacle of their "logic programming":

    "Barcode Scanners & EDC inputs: Barcode scanners
    inherently act as Human Interface Devices (HID) rCo
    meaning they just inject keyboard strokes into
    the active field. Since my input terminal is
    already standard web HTML, a physical USB/Bluetooth
    scanner works instantly out-of-the-box without
    needing complex C/C++ bindings or custom drivers
    in Prolog. The same applies to manually
    entering EDC trace codes." https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/t/the-unrusting-blade-an-offline-first-logicbiz-v-2-0-powered-by-swi-prolog-sqlcipher-reply-01/9752

    Thank you for your unhinged nonsense!

    Bye

    P.S.: Isn't following georgi gerganov or
    andrej karpathy more exciting. What if you
    want to integrate a chatbot into your web

    storefront, which is not a point of sale,
    but a pizza ordering web site? Do it with
    uber eats out of the box. Are we already lost?

    Or can we rise without burning?

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    NVIDIA has just release RTX 3080 Mini.
    Only the size of space bar, it easily
    fits into a keyboard:

    Nvidia RTX 3080 Mini! The Future of GPUs! https://www.instagram.com/p/C3gbuA8P0eE/

    The association of logic programming has
    coorperated with Morbid AI Inc. and used
    a local GPT builder to bring Prolog

    Expert Ginis on a keychain. You can now
    easily carry around in your pocket:

    Mini Hakan: Ask it anything about
    constraint programming, contains the
    wealth of CLP examples written in
    different CLP dialect.

    Mini Paul: Ask it anything about Jini
    Prolog VMs. The complete hitchhiker guide
    to engineering fabulous sequential
    Prolog engines.

    Mini Jan: Ask it anything about XPCE
    and SWI. More than a manual , rather
    a language monument. Fancy easter egg,
    contains a complete GUI tracer.

    Stay tuned, more to come...

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    You just escaped AI dooms day. Humanity has
    reset all internet and computers as a last resort
    to prevent AGI developing, by an electromagnetic

    pulse. You are stuck in G|+ttinger Wald and hunted
    down a deer by your bare hands, the deer still
    confused and tame because tourists were feeding it.

    Now you have no knife, what do you do:

    Chimpanzees Have Entered The Stone Age
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPXX2I_uYjc

    So we are just apes with internet.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Ok I was looking at this learning challenge,
    producing vector (y1,y2,y3,y4) from a vector
    (x1,x2,x3,x4), System R can do it via least square?

    | 0 0 0 1 |-a-a | x1 |-a-a-a-a | x4 |
    | 0 0 1 0 |-a-a | x2 |-a =-a | x3 |
    | 0 1 0 0 |-a-a | x3 |-a-a-a-a | x2 |
    | 1 0 0 0 |-a-a | x4 |-a-a-a-a | x1 |

    How it started:

    "multiplicative RNNs arises naturally from a
    proof-theoretic interpretation of next-token
    prediction as nested intuitionistic implication"
    Paul Tarau - 2026
    https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.19915

    How its going:

    "Dave uses a PDP-11 to train a real Neural
    Network complete with Transformers and
    Attention so you can see them at their most basic."
    Mr. Taskmanager - 2026
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE3FSIk46g

    We see Doctor Frankstein in action from
    the Bronze Age of Computing, producing
    a Humunkulus, the progenitor of todays

    Bulgakov Shuriks in the Hyperscale Age!

    Bye

    P.S.: My impression neither cut to the core, that
    this incredible transformer most likely
    produced this deterministic attention:

    | -1 | * | k | + | 5 | = | k' |

    Or differently expressed y_k = x_{5-k}.

    How did the transformer do it? It produced
    a neural network with 1216 parameters, but
    didn't use embeddings or polar encoding

    of positions. But if we strip the noise
    and denoise from the position encoding,
    the denoise is done via softmax. We somehow

    must get the above, right? I still need to
    verify my claim! BTW: The PDP-11 assembly
    from 1979 uses wider example not with n=4

    but with n=8.



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  • From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Wed Aug 12 20:20:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Hi,

    Its interesting that we already have
    like for 50 years the Curry Howard
    isomorphims, as proof justifications terms,

    Still it seems extremly hard to generate
    proof certificates for Prolog, isn't it?
    How it started:

    Ai x Big Gas. What could go wrong?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kON2ZI2BNj8

    How its going:

    eq(Z,Z).
    why eq(f(X,a),f(b,Y))
    eq(f(b, a), f(b, a)).
    why(
    eq(f(b, a), f(b, a)),
    proof(
    goal(eq(f(b, a), f(b, a))),
    by(fact("<input>", clause(1))),
    bindings([binding("Z", f(b, a))])
    )
    ).
    https://eyereasoner.github.io/eyeprolog/playground

    Truely some bullshit authorized by Sarah Connor.
    So far there is no danger of an upcoming
    Skynet that will gain self-awareness.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Now the SWI community has create a new circus
    example, probably AI generated by a prompt
    enginerring, add a silly greeting line:

    A: Thank you so much for sharing information
    -a-a about the LogicBiz V.2.0 project!
    B: Thank you so much for your kind words
    -a-a and encouragement!
    A: Thank you so much for your honest and
    -a-a heartfelt reply!
    B: Thank you so much for your heartwarming
    -a-a and supportive reply!
    A: Thank you for your openness!
    B: Thank you for your valuable feedback!
    A: Thank you for sharing such a detailed
    -a-a and impressive technical breakdown!
    B: Thank you for the detailed breakdown!
    A: Thank you for the fascinating perspective! https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/t/the-unrusting-blade-an-offline-first-logicbiz-v-2-0-powered-by-swi-prolog-sqlcipher-reply-01/9752


    The pinacle of their "logic programming":

    "Barcode Scanners & EDC inputs: Barcode scanners
    inherently act as Human Interface Devices (HID) rCo
    meaning they just inject keyboard strokes into
    the active field. Since my input terminal is
    already standard web HTML, a physical USB/Bluetooth
    scanner works instantly out-of-the-box without
    needing complex C/C++ bindings or custom drivers
    in Prolog. The same applies to manually
    entering EDC trace codes." https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/t/the-unrusting-blade-an-offline-first-logicbiz-v-2-0-powered-by-swi-prolog-sqlcipher-reply-01/9752


    Thank you for your unhinged nonsense!

    Bye

    P.S.: Isn't following georgi gerganov or
    andrej karpathy more exciting. What if you
    want to integrate a chatbot into your web

    storefront, which is not a point of sale,
    but a pizza ordering web site? Do it with
    uber eats out of the box. Are we already lost?

    Or can we rise without burning?

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    NVIDIA has just release RTX 3080 Mini.
    Only the size of space bar, it easily
    fits into a keyboard:

    Nvidia RTX 3080 Mini! The Future of GPUs!
    https://www.instagram.com/p/C3gbuA8P0eE/

    The association of logic programming has
    coorperated with Morbid AI Inc. and used
    a local GPT builder to bring Prolog

    Expert Ginis on a keychain. You can now
    easily carry around in your pocket:

    Mini Hakan: Ask it anything about
    constraint programming, contains the
    wealth of CLP examples written in
    different CLP dialect.

    Mini Paul: Ask it anything about Jini
    Prolog VMs. The complete hitchhiker guide
    to engineering fabulous sequential
    Prolog engines.

    Mini Jan: Ask it anything about XPCE
    and SWI. More than a manual , rather
    a language monument. Fancy easter egg,
    contains a complete GUI tracer.

    Stay tuned, more to come...

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    You just escaped AI dooms day. Humanity has
    reset all internet and computers as a last resort
    to prevent AGI developing, by an electromagnetic

    pulse. You are stuck in G|+ttinger Wald and hunted
    down a deer by your bare hands, the deer still
    confused and tame because tourists were feeding it.

    Now you have no knife, what do you do:

    Chimpanzees Have Entered The Stone Age
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPXX2I_uYjc

    So we are just apes with internet.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Ok I was looking at this learning challenge,
    producing vector (y1,y2,y3,y4) from a vector
    (x1,x2,x3,x4), System R can do it via least square?

    | 0 0 0 1 |-a-a | x1 |-a-a-a-a | x4 |
    | 0 0 1 0 |-a-a | x2 |-a =-a | x3 |
    | 0 1 0 0 |-a-a | x3 |-a-a-a-a | x2 |
    | 1 0 0 0 |-a-a | x4 |-a-a-a-a | x1 |

    How it started:

    "multiplicative RNNs arises naturally from a
    proof-theoretic interpretation of next-token
    prediction as nested intuitionistic implication"
    Paul Tarau - 2026
    https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.19915

    How its going:

    "Dave uses a PDP-11 to train a real Neural
    Network complete with Transformers and
    Attention so you can see them at their most basic."
    Mr. Taskmanager - 2026
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE3FSIk46g

    We see Doctor Frankstein in action from
    the Bronze Age of Computing, producing
    a Humunkulus, the progenitor of todays

    Bulgakov Shuriks in the Hyperscale Age!

    Bye

    P.S.: My impression neither cut to the core, that
    this incredible transformer most likely
    produced this deterministic attention:

    | -1 | * | k | + | 5 | = | k' |

    Or differently expressed y_k = x_{5-k}.

    How did the transformer do it? It produced
    a neural network with 1216 parameters, but
    didn't use embeddings or polar encoding

    of positions. But if we strip the noise
    and denoise from the position encoding,
    the denoise is done via softmax. We somehow

    must get the above, right? I still need to
    verify my claim! BTW: The PDP-11 assembly
    from 1979 uses wider example not with n=4

    but with n=8.




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  • From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Wed Aug 12 20:29:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Hi,

    Ok, I see, its not really a Prolog.
    For example I get the below. Why
    does it have ISO compliance tests?

    ?- T = f(Y,Z,S), f(X,Y,Z) = T.
    (no answers)
    https://eyereasoner.github.io/eyeprolog/playground

    Whoever payed for this nonsense, had
    his money lavishly thrown out of a
    window. They could use the australian

    gas to directly burn some dollar notes.

    LoL

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Its interesting that we already have
    like for 50 years the Curry Howard
    isomorphims, as proof justifications terms,

    Still it seems extremly hard to generate
    proof certificates for Prolog, isn't it?
    How it started:

    Ai x Big Gas. What could go wrong? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kON2ZI2BNj8

    How its going:

    eq(Z,Z).
    why eq(f(X,a),f(b,Y))
    eq(f(b, a), f(b, a)).
    why(
    -a eq(f(b, a), f(b, a)),
    -a proof(
    -a-a-a goal(eq(f(b, a), f(b, a))),
    -a-a-a by(fact("<input>", clause(1))),
    -a-a-a bindings([binding("Z", f(b, a))])
    -a )
    ).
    https://eyereasoner.github.io/eyeprolog/playground

    Truely some bullshit authorized by Sarah Connor.
    So far there is no danger of an upcoming
    Skynet that will gain self-awareness.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Now the SWI community has create a new circus
    example, probably AI generated by a prompt
    enginerring, add a silly greeting line:

    A: Thank you so much for sharing information
    -a-a-a about the LogicBiz V.2.0 project!
    B: Thank you so much for your kind words
    -a-a-a and encouragement!
    A: Thank you so much for your honest and
    -a-a-a heartfelt reply!
    B: Thank you so much for your heartwarming
    -a-a-a and supportive reply!
    A: Thank you for your openness!
    B: Thank you for your valuable feedback!
    A: Thank you for sharing such a detailed
    -a-a-a and impressive technical breakdown!
    B: Thank you for the detailed breakdown!
    A: Thank you for the fascinating perspective!
    https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/t/the-unrusting-blade-an-offline-first-logicbiz-v-2-0-powered-by-swi-prolog-sqlcipher-reply-01/9752


    The pinacle of their "logic programming":

    "Barcode Scanners & EDC inputs: Barcode scanners
    inherently act as Human Interface Devices (HID) rCo
    meaning they just inject keyboard strokes into
    the active field. Since my input terminal is
    already standard web HTML, a physical USB/Bluetooth
    scanner works instantly out-of-the-box without
    needing complex C/C++ bindings or custom drivers
    in Prolog. The same applies to manually
    entering EDC trace codes."
    https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/t/the-unrusting-blade-an-offline-first-logicbiz-v-2-0-powered-by-swi-prolog-sqlcipher-reply-01/9752


    Thank you for your unhinged nonsense!

    Bye

    P.S.: Isn't following georgi gerganov or
    andrej karpathy more exciting. What if you
    want to integrate a chatbot into your web

    storefront, which is not a point of sale,
    but a pizza ordering web site? Do it with
    uber eats out of the box. Are we already lost?

    Or can we rise without burning?

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    NVIDIA has just release RTX 3080 Mini.
    Only the size of space bar, it easily
    fits into a keyboard:

    Nvidia RTX 3080 Mini! The Future of GPUs!
    https://www.instagram.com/p/C3gbuA8P0eE/

    The association of logic programming has
    coorperated with Morbid AI Inc. and used
    a local GPT builder to bring Prolog

    Expert Ginis on a keychain. You can now
    easily carry around in your pocket:

    Mini Hakan: Ask it anything about
    constraint programming, contains the
    wealth of CLP examples written in
    different CLP dialect.

    Mini Paul: Ask it anything about Jini
    Prolog VMs. The complete hitchhiker guide
    to engineering fabulous sequential
    Prolog engines.

    Mini Jan: Ask it anything about XPCE
    and SWI. More than a manual , rather
    a language monument. Fancy easter egg,
    contains a complete GUI tracer.

    Stay tuned, more to come...

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    You just escaped AI dooms day. Humanity has
    reset all internet and computers as a last resort
    to prevent AGI developing, by an electromagnetic

    pulse. You are stuck in G|+ttinger Wald and hunted
    down a deer by your bare hands, the deer still
    confused and tame because tourists were feeding it.

    Now you have no knife, what do you do:

    Chimpanzees Have Entered The Stone Age
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPXX2I_uYjc

    So we are just apes with internet.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Ok I was looking at this learning challenge,
    producing vector (y1,y2,y3,y4) from a vector
    (x1,x2,x3,x4), System R can do it via least square?

    | 0 0 0 1 |-a-a | x1 |-a-a-a-a | x4 |
    | 0 0 1 0 |-a-a | x2 |-a =-a | x3 |
    | 0 1 0 0 |-a-a | x3 |-a-a-a-a | x2 |
    | 1 0 0 0 |-a-a | x4 |-a-a-a-a | x1 |

    How it started:

    "multiplicative RNNs arises naturally from a
    proof-theoretic interpretation of next-token
    prediction as nested intuitionistic implication"
    Paul Tarau - 2026
    https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.19915

    How its going:

    "Dave uses a PDP-11 to train a real Neural
    Network complete with Transformers and
    Attention so you can see them at their most basic."
    Mr. Taskmanager - 2026
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE3FSIk46g

    We see Doctor Frankstein in action from
    the Bronze Age of Computing, producing
    a Humunkulus, the progenitor of todays

    Bulgakov Shuriks in the Hyperscale Age!

    Bye

    P.S.: My impression neither cut to the core, that
    this incredible transformer most likely
    produced this deterministic attention:

    | -1 | * | k | + | 5 | = | k' |

    Or differently expressed y_k = x_{5-k}.

    How did the transformer do it? It produced
    a neural network with 1216 parameters, but
    didn't use embeddings or polar encoding

    of positions. But if we strip the noise
    and denoise from the position encoding,
    the denoise is done via softmax. We somehow

    must get the above, right? I still need to
    verify my claim! BTW: The PDP-11 assembly
    from 1979 uses wider example not with n=4

    but with n=8.





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