• Occam's Razor says a lightning bolt and a bit of steam and carbon from a meteor are your linear ancestor

    From Lane W@cactus_DAC@yahoo.com to sci.math on Mon Jul 20 18:34:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/paper-finds-earth-may-have-been-terraformed-by-advanced-extraterrestrials/ar-AA1M0vh3

    Looking over this, I have one or two problems with abiogenesis, purely
    from a scientific viewpoint rather than a religious one.

    First off, however, I don't have any biology newsgroups in my listing.
    If you can refer me to a better newsgroup, especially if you feel this
    is off-topic, please do.

    My concern with abiogenesis is that if it's so unordinary, so
    predictable and unexpected, why isn't there a line of eight planets
    stretching out from the Sun with life on them?

    And if abiogenesis, basically starting from nothing, nada, scratch can
    present us with the flourish of life on earth exhibited in 2020,
    shouldn't we have heard back from SETI?

    And I guess the second problem, while I sought to refrain from religious argument, it does come down to it, is that if abiogenesis feels just so sacrilegious, isn't there something to giving it the third degree and certainly questioning it? Not often are the religions distinctly
    separated from science as they would be in this instance.

    And, I thought it better you should hear it from me, this IS phoenix.
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  • From David Dalton@dalton@nfld.com to sci.math on Tue Jul 21 01:35:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    On Jul 20, 2026, Lane W wrote
    (in article <113meq7$1jt4k$1@dont-email.me>):

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/paper-finds-earth-may-have-been-terr
    aformed-by-advanced-extraterrestrials/ar-AA1M0vh3

    Looking over this, I have one or two problems with abiogenesis, purely
    from a scientific viewpoint rather than a religious one.

    First off, however, I don't have any biology newsgroups in my listing.
    If you can refer me to a better newsgroup, especially if you feel this
    is off-topic, please do.

    My concern with abiogenesis is that if it's so unordinary, so
    predictable and unexpected, why isn't there a line of eight planets stretching out from the Sun with life on them?

    And if abiogenesis, basically starting from nothing, nada, scratch can present us with the flourish of life on earth exhibited in 2020,
    shouldn't we have heard back from SETI?

    And I guess the second problem, while I sought to refrain from religious argument, it does come down to it, is that if abiogenesis feels just so sacrilegious, isn't there something to giving it the third degree and certainly questioning it? Not often are the religions distinctly
    separated from science as they would be in this instance.

    And, I thought it better you should hear it from me, this IS phoenix.

    Some newsgroups that might be appropriate are

    sci.bio.misc
    bionet.general
    talk.origins
    alt.talk.creationism

    talk.origins is robo-moderated but I think it may allow
    crossposts to up to three more groups.

    There is also sci.bio.evolution, but that has been
    abandoned by its moderator(s).
    --
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  • From Lane W@cactus_DAC@yahoo.com to sci.math on Tue Jul 21 02:30:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    David Dalton wrote:
    On Jul 20, 2026, Lane W wrote
    (in article <113meq7$1jt4k$1@dont-email.me>):

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/paper-finds-earth-may-have-been-terr
    aformed-by-advanced-extraterrestrials/ar-AA1M0vh3

    Looking over this, I have one or two problems with abiogenesis, purely
    from a scientific viewpoint rather than a religious one.

    First off, however, I don't have any biology newsgroups in my listing.
    If you can refer me to a better newsgroup, especially if you feel this
    is off-topic, please do.

    My concern with abiogenesis is that if it's so unordinary, so
    predictable and unexpected, why isn't there a line of eight planets
    stretching out from the Sun with life on them?

    And if abiogenesis, basically starting from nothing, nada, scratch can
    present us with the flourish of life on earth exhibited in 2020,
    shouldn't we have heard back from SETI?

    And I guess the second problem, while I sought to refrain from religious
    argument, it does come down to it, is that if abiogenesis feels just so
    sacrilegious, isn't there something to giving it the third degree and
    certainly questioning it? Not often are the religions distinctly
    separated from science as they would be in this instance.

    And, I thought it better you should hear it from me, this IS phoenix.

    Some newsgroups that might be appropriate are

    sci.bio.misc
    bionet.general
    talk.origins
    alt.talk.creationism

    Great, I'll have a go in sci.bio.misc and bionet.general.
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  • From David Dalton@dalton@nfld.com to sci.math on Wed Jul 22 02:05:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    On Jul 21, 2026, Lane W wrote
    (in article <113nanb$1r1bt$1@dont-email.me>):

    David Dalton wrote:
    On Jul 20, 2026, Lane W wrote
    (in article <113meq7$1jt4k$1@dont-email.me>):

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/paper-finds-earth-may-have-been-t
    err
    aformed-by-advanced-extraterrestrials/ar-AA1M0vh3

    Looking over this, I have one or two problems with abiogenesis, purely from a scientific viewpoint rather than a religious one.

    First off, however, I don't have any biology newsgroups in my listing.
    If you can refer me to a better newsgroup, especially if you feel this
    is off-topic, please do.

    My concern with abiogenesis is that if it's so unordinary, so
    predictable and unexpected, why isn't there a line of eight planets stretching out from the Sun with life on them?

    And if abiogenesis, basically starting from nothing, nada, scratch can present us with the flourish of life on earth exhibited in 2020, shouldn't we have heard back from SETI?

    And I guess the second problem, while I sought to refrain from religious argument, it does come down to it, is that if abiogenesis feels just so sacrilegious, isn't there something to giving it the third degree and certainly questioning it? Not often are the religions distinctly separated from science as they would be in this instance.

    And, I thought it better you should hear it from me, this IS phoenix.

    Some newsgroups that might be appropriate are

    sci.bio.misc
    bionet.general
    talk.origins
    alt.talk.creationism

    Great, I'll have a go in sci.bio.misc and bionet.general.

    They are very low traffic, but there may be some readers,
    but talk.origins may have more, including some who are
    very knowledgeable in biology.
    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) rCLEarly morning, jubilators, up to no good, instigators... Sons of long forgotten races, that the darkest night embracesrCY (Ron Hynes & D.OrCOD)

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  • From Lane W@cactus_DAC@yahoo.com to sci.math on Wed Jul 22 06:28:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    David Dalton wrote:
    On Jul 21, 2026, Lane W wrote
    (in article <113nanb$1r1bt$1@dont-email.me>):

    David Dalton wrote:
    On Jul 20, 2026, Lane W wrote
    (in article <113meq7$1jt4k$1@dont-email.me>):

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/paper-finds-earth-may-have-been-t
    err
    aformed-by-advanced-extraterrestrials/ar-AA1M0vh3

    Looking over this, I have one or two problems with abiogenesis, purely >>>> from a scientific viewpoint rather than a religious one.

    First off, however, I don't have any biology newsgroups in my listing. >>>> If you can refer me to a better newsgroup, especially if you feel this >>>> is off-topic, please do.

    My concern with abiogenesis is that if it's so unordinary, so
    predictable and unexpected, why isn't there a line of eight planets
    stretching out from the Sun with life on them?

    And if abiogenesis, basically starting from nothing, nada, scratch can >>>> present us with the flourish of life on earth exhibited in 2020,
    shouldn't we have heard back from SETI?

    And I guess the second problem, while I sought to refrain from religious >>>> argument, it does come down to it, is that if abiogenesis feels just so >>>> sacrilegious, isn't there something to giving it the third degree and
    certainly questioning it? Not often are the religions distinctly
    separated from science as they would be in this instance.

    And, I thought it better you should hear it from me, this IS phoenix.

    Some newsgroups that might be appropriate are

    sci.bio.misc
    bionet.general
    talk.origins
    alt.talk.creationism

    Great, I'll have a go in sci.bio.misc and bionet.general.

    They are very low traffic, but there may be some readers,
    but talk.origins may have more, including some who are
    very knowledgeable in biology.

    I guess I think of talk.origins as being filled with fanatics, but I
    will have a look at it too.
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