• Re: ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed

    From Ross Finlayson@ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Jun 3 00:22:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    On 05/30/2026 10:36 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 5/30/2026 10:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-math-solves-erdos-problem-openai-c4029e84
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed/



    2 + 2 = 22

    define + as contamination... ;^)

    A + B = AB





    Anybody got change for a $250.00 bill???






    Another example of stupidity not doing a thorough and diligent
    search for counterexamples and thusly mistaking a distinctness
    result with its conditions that they don't know for a uniqueness
    result and directly into inductive failure then to cheat and lie
    the "certification" since "mathematics proves it", when they
    never resolved a mathematical paradox nor developed a super-classical
    result, thusly: garbage in: garbage out.



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  • From super70s@super70s@super70s.invalid to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sci.physics.relativity, sci.math on Wed Jun 3 08:11:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    Soon to be a major motion picture: Good Will Hunting - The Revenge of
    the Cyborgs.

    At least we can lay off all those people working on the erdos problem now.

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  • From Ross Finlayson@ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Wed Jun 3 07:57:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    On 06/03/2026 06:11 AM, super70s wrote:
    Soon to be a major motion picture: Good Will Hunting - The Revenge of
    the Cyborgs.

    At least we can lay off all those people working on the erdos problem now.


    No, that's ignorant, Erdos is well known for proving many conjectures
    both ways, about facts of infinitary reasoning. For example, there
    are accounts in convergence and emergence, about whether, for example,
    there's a point at infinity or not and it's a prime and infinity or not,
    there are models of integers and how they're built where there is,
    and models of integers and how they're built where it isn't.

    This is called "Erdos' Giant Monsters of Independence", that it's
    _independent_ usual accounts of convergence and the infinitary where
    that's so and where that's not so.

    "Ramsey theory" then for example makes for matters of the exponential
    where base 2 and base 3 are _different_, where, for example, accounts
    of asymptotics and Big O think they are always the _same_, it's ignorant.

    Poincare for example has a bunch of these.

    So, when seeing these sorts of recent accounts like
    "newbie proves induction: claims to eliminate half the math department",
    these are considered a bit pre-mature, to be
    generous, and just feeding Erdos' "Giant Monster", not building
    the infinitary "Great Atlas", of Mathematical Independence.


    It's like proving all numbers are rational, which for some
    Pythagoreans is a perfect finitary world, and others, lost at sea.



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  • From super70s@super70s@super70s.invalid to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sci.physics.relativity, sci.math on Wed Jun 3 11:04:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    On 2026-06-03 14:57:07 +0000, Ross Finlayson said:

    On 06/03/2026 06:11 AM, super70s wrote:
    Soon to be a major motion picture: Good Will Hunting - The Revenge of
    the Cyborgs.

    At least we can lay off all those people working on the erdos problem now. >>

    No, that's ignorant, Erdos is well known for proving many conjectures
    both ways, about facts of infinitary reasoning.

    Thank you professor, obviously no one should joke around you.

    For example, there
    are accounts in convergence and emergence, about whether, for example, there's a point at infinity or not and it's a prime and infinity or not, there are models of integers and how they're built where there is,
    and models of integers and how they're built where it isn't.

    This is called "Erdos' Giant Monsters of Independence", that it's _independent_ usual accounts of convergence and the infinitary where
    that's so and where that's not so.

    "Ramsey theory" then for example makes for matters of the exponential
    where base 2 and base 3 are _different_, where, for example, accounts
    of asymptotics and Big O think they are always the _same_, it's ignorant.

    Poincare for example has a bunch of these.

    So, when seeing these sorts of recent accounts like
    "newbie proves induction: claims to eliminate half the math department", these are considered a bit pre-mature, to be
    generous, and just feeding Erdos' "Giant Monster", not building
    the infinitary "Great Atlas", of Mathematical Independence.


    It's like proving all numbers are rational, which for some
    Pythagoreans is a perfect finitary world, and others, lost at sea.


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  • From Ross Finlayson@ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,sci.physics.relativity,sci.math on Wed Jun 3 09:52:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    On 06/03/2026 09:04 AM, super70s wrote:
    On 2026-06-03 14:57:07 +0000, Ross Finlayson said:

    On 06/03/2026 06:11 AM, super70s wrote:
    Soon to be a major motion picture: Good Will Hunting - The Revenge of
    the Cyborgs.

    At least we can lay off all those people working on the erdos problem
    now.


    No, that's ignorant, Erdos is well known for proving many conjectures
    both ways, about facts of infinitary reasoning.

    Thank you professor, obviously no one should joke around you.

    For example, there
    are accounts in convergence and emergence, about whether, for example,
    there's a point at infinity or not and it's a prime and infinity or not,
    there are models of integers and how they're built where there is,
    and models of integers and how they're built where it isn't.

    This is called "Erdos' Giant Monsters of Independence", that it's
    _independent_ usual accounts of convergence and the infinitary where
    that's so and where that's not so.

    "Ramsey theory" then for example makes for matters of the exponential
    where base 2 and base 3 are _different_, where, for example, accounts
    of asymptotics and Big O think they are always the _same_, it's ignorant.

    Poincare for example has a bunch of these.

    So, when seeing these sorts of recent accounts like
    "newbie proves induction: claims to eliminate half the math department",
    these are considered a bit pre-mature, to be
    generous, and just feeding Erdos' "Giant Monster", not building
    the infinitary "Great Atlas", of Mathematical Independence.


    It's like proving all numbers are rational, which for some
    Pythagoreans is a perfect finitary world, and others, lost at sea.



    "This is sci.math: humor is irrelevant."

    It's not a joke, dope.


    Jokes are funny for at least two reasons:
    a) they're true, b) they're not true.


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  • From Chris M. Thomasson@chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Jun 3 15:02:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    On 6/3/2026 12:22 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
    On 05/30/2026 10:36 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 5/30/2026 10:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-math-solves-erdos-problem-openai-c4029e84 >>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-just-solved-an-80-year-
    old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed/



    2 + 2 = 22

    define + as contamination... ;^)

    A + B = AB





    Anybody got change for a $250.00 bill???






    Another example of stupidity not doing a thorough and diligent
    search for counterexamples and thusly mistaking a distinctness
    result with its conditions that they don't know for a uniqueness
    result and directly into inductive failure then to cheat and lie
    the "certification" since "mathematics proves it", when they
    never resolved a mathematical paradox nor developed a super-classical
    result, thusly: garbage in: garbage out.




    Tell that to an L-system. It uses operators like this all the time.
    A+B=AB for its symbols during fractal iteration.
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  • From Chris M. Thomasson@chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Jun 3 15:04:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    On 6/3/2026 3:02 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 6/3/2026 12:22 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
    On 05/30/2026 10:36 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 5/30/2026 10:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-math-solves-erdos-problem-openai-
    c4029e84
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-just-solved-an-80-
    year- old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed/



    2 + 2 = 22

    define + as contamination... ;^)

    A + B = AB





    Anybody got change for a $250.00 bill???






    Another example of stupidity not doing a thorough and diligent
    search for counterexamples and thusly mistaking a distinctness
    result with its conditions that they don't know for a uniqueness
    result and directly into inductive failure then to cheat and lie
    the "certification" since "mathematics proves it", when they
    never resolved a mathematical paradox nor developed a super-classical
    result, thusly: garbage in: garbage out.




    Tell that to an L-system. It uses operators like this all the time.
    A+B=AB for its symbols during fractal iteration.

    Or rewriting...

    A = AB
    B = BA

    So AB becomes:

    ABBA then:

    ABBABAAB

    See?
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  • From marika@marika5000@gmail.com to sci.math,sci.physics.relativity,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley on Sun Jun 14 04:40:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.math

    The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
    https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-math-solves-erdos-problem-openai-c4029e84 https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed/


    2 + 2 = 22


    Anybody got change for a $250.00 bill???





    My math professor friend talked about this at lunch today. I promised to
    read up on it.
    Very interesting.

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