• Re: Does Gentzen's argument constitute a proof of Consistency of PA?

    From Ross Finlayson@ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com to sci.logic on Mon Sep 28 11:20:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.logic

    On 03/13/2015 02:47 PM, Jack Campin wrote:
    knowing what to call "the hypothes(e/i)s of" the completeness
    theorem depends on knowing what axioms you are proving it from
    and what framework you are in -- something we don't usually
    bother with because we already know what a first-order language
    is.

    Proving it needs some set theory, including a form of choice principle
    (the Boolean Prime Ideal Theorem, at least). It is not constructively provable (unless you restrict the object language somehow).

    The reason people don't ordinarily bother specifying meta-formalism
    is because ZFC provides all that is needed - not because the proof
    is conducted in a first order language. But weaker systems can prove
    it, and there is some non-trivial reverse mathematics involved.

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