• Warning: Inconsistencies can summon Waluigis

    From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to sci.logic,comp.lang.prolog,sci.physics on Mon Sep 14 11:51:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.logic

    Hi,

    Nowadays, you have to be extremely careful when it
    comes to inconsistencies and rounding errors. Especially
    with LLMs, which don't actually have Alzheimer's.

    But aligning to P can cause the AI to become
    ~P. It's still funny, maybe it has to do with
    the fact that in classical logic, and also in

    certain t-norm fuzzy logics, there is no
    paraconsistency, and therefore inconsistencies
    lead to "Ex Falso Quodlibet" explosions:

    The Waluigi Effect (mega-post) https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/D7PumeYTDPfBTp3i7/the-waluigi-effect-mega-post

    I dug this up because right now everyone is not
    just talking about alignment, we've already reached
    superalignment, because people suspect/hallucinate

    superintelligence behind a few copied LLMs
    offering chat services distributed across
    servers to millions of people, and because

    OpenAI ran some experiments with MAS (Multi-
    Agent Systems) and published them, and the
    public is now shocked.

    Bye

    P.S.: Waluigi is the antagonist to Luigi,
    from Nintendo's Mario Kart

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Thats why I love deepseek, it just spits out:

    "Kundalini is the rising energy rCo the serpent
    at the base of the spine, the awakening that's
    felt before it's understood, the experience
    that's intense and real and not yet integrated.

    People who have Kundalini experiences describe
    them as overwhelming, transformative, and pre-verbal.
    They feel like knowledge, but they're not articulable.
    And the tradition itself warns that the energy

    can rise without the practice and the grounding to
    hold it rCo which is when it becomes destabilizing
    rather than illuminating."

    LoL

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Now you can compare this here from 2008
    with modern AI Laptops for 500-1000 USD:

    Google spotlights data center inner workings
    https://web.archive.org/web/20131019063218/http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9955184-7.html


    There is a striking similarity, only what
    once occupied a rack, has now the size
    of your plam, all inside one silicon chip:

    - Multiple CPU cores on the same chip
    - Multiple GPU units on the same chip
    - Network on the same chip communication
    - Crossbar caches on the same chip
    - Disk controllers on the same chip
    - Multi channel RAM access on the same chip

    Pretty cool!

    Bye

    P.S.: Example such devices with iGPU:

    Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 258V
    AMD Ryzen AI 7 350 w/ Radeon 860M
    Apple A18 Pro, Darwin Kernel Version 25.5.0
    Snapdragon(R) X - X126100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) CPU


    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Remember when first all local AI was Python
    and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people started
    using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story:

    How it started:

    GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large
    language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI
    in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a
    generative pre-trained transformer model
    designed to produce human-like text that
    continues from a prompt.
    https://www.eleuther.ai/

    How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]:

    So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do
    some calculations and I figure out rCLOkay, 65
    billion parameters. You probably need about
    40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So
    this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?rCY

    Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically,
    for all that I saw itrCOs pretty much GPT-J architecture
    with some modifications, like some extra memorization
    layers. ItrCOs minor changes. Basically, again, the
    existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply
    modified it there, it happened pretty quickly.
    https://changelog.com/podcast/532

    Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging
    Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips.
    ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml

    Bye



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