• Re: Bullshit Authorized by Sarah Connor [EyeProlog Failure] (Re: From Unrusting Blade to Unburning Icarus (Re: The SWI-Prolog community is a circus ))

    From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to comp.lang.prolog,sci.logic,sci.physics on Wed Aug 12 20:29:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.logic

    Hi,

    Ok, I see, its not really a Prolog.
    For example I get the below. Why
    does it have ISO compliance tests?

    ?- T = f(Y,Z,S), f(X,Y,Z) = T.
    (no answers)
    https://eyereasoner.github.io/eyeprolog/playground

    Whoever payed for this nonsense, had
    his money lavishly thrown out of a
    window. They could use the australian

    gas to directly burn some dollar notes.

    LoL

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Its interesting that we already have
    like for 50 years the Curry Howard
    isomorphims, as proof justifications terms,

    Still it seems extremly hard to generate
    proof certificates for Prolog, isn't it?
    How it started:

    Ai x Big Gas. What could go wrong? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kON2ZI2BNj8

    How its going:

    eq(Z,Z).
    why eq(f(X,a),f(b,Y))
    eq(f(b, a), f(b, a)).
    why(
    -a eq(f(b, a), f(b, a)),
    -a proof(
    -a-a-a goal(eq(f(b, a), f(b, a))),
    -a-a-a by(fact("<input>", clause(1))),
    -a-a-a bindings([binding("Z", f(b, a))])
    -a )
    ).
    https://eyereasoner.github.io/eyeprolog/playground

    Truely some bullshit authorized by Sarah Connor.
    So far there is no danger of an upcoming
    Skynet that will gain self-awareness.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Now the SWI community has create a new circus
    example, probably AI generated by a prompt
    enginerring, add a silly greeting line:

    A: Thank you so much for sharing information
    -a-a-a about the LogicBiz V.2.0 project!
    B: Thank you so much for your kind words
    -a-a-a and encouragement!
    A: Thank you so much for your honest and
    -a-a-a heartfelt reply!
    B: Thank you so much for your heartwarming
    -a-a-a and supportive reply!
    A: Thank you for your openness!
    B: Thank you for your valuable feedback!
    A: Thank you for sharing such a detailed
    -a-a-a and impressive technical breakdown!
    B: Thank you for the detailed breakdown!
    A: Thank you for the fascinating perspective!
    https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/t/the-unrusting-blade-an-offline-first-logicbiz-v-2-0-powered-by-swi-prolog-sqlcipher-reply-01/9752


    The pinacle of their "logic programming":

    "Barcode Scanners & EDC inputs: Barcode scanners
    inherently act as Human Interface Devices (HID) rCo
    meaning they just inject keyboard strokes into
    the active field. Since my input terminal is
    already standard web HTML, a physical USB/Bluetooth
    scanner works instantly out-of-the-box without
    needing complex C/C++ bindings or custom drivers
    in Prolog. The same applies to manually
    entering EDC trace codes."
    https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/t/the-unrusting-blade-an-offline-first-logicbiz-v-2-0-powered-by-swi-prolog-sqlcipher-reply-01/9752


    Thank you for your unhinged nonsense!

    Bye

    P.S.: Isn't following georgi gerganov or
    andrej karpathy more exciting. What if you
    want to integrate a chatbot into your web

    storefront, which is not a point of sale,
    but a pizza ordering web site? Do it with
    uber eats out of the box. Are we already lost?

    Or can we rise without burning?

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    The SWI-Prolog community is a circus.
    I mean there are not only clowns like
    Boris the Loris and Nazi Retard Julio,

    there are also clowns like completely
    mentally deranged Philosophy Professors,
    such as Joseph Vidal Rosset.

    But what can one expect from the Dutchies,
    that had their peak with Automath in the 60s,
    from then on it only went downhill.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Instead presenting a clown world like here:

    - The smart system for printing labels and reference
    lines in Fitch proofs has been invented by B., a Prolog
    expert who usually dislikes seeing his name quoted.
    https://www.vidal-rosset.net/2025-11-17-swi-tinker-for-swi-prolog-provers.html


    You could simply state that the Fitch renderer
    is derived from Curry-Howard isomorphism proof
    terms. This is pretty much folk knowledge in logic

    circles, and wasnt invented by me. I was only
    the messenger for things that every Logician should
    know, already at least for 60 years, the original

    THE FORMULAE-AS-TYPES NOTION OF CONSTRUCTION
    W. A. Howard - University of Chicago
    https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~crary/819-f09/Howard80.pdf

    Curry-Howard paper already circulated in 1969.
    That was around the same time when Automath
    ("automating mathematics") was devised by Nicolaas

    Govert de Bruijn, for expressing complete mathematical
    theories in such a way that an included automated
    proof checker can verify their correctness.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    What if Computer Vision = Computer Linguistic.
    That is, if the areas are based on the same
    problems and the same solutions.

    An example I rCLseerCY a doorknob.-a In order to
    open the door I have to be able to visually
    recognize a variety of different designs and
    classify them according to function.

    Is this part on the door intended to open the door?

    We can do that as humans.-a It's the same problem
    with words.-a There are different words with the
    same "function" in a context. In principle it's

    very similar, I could imagine that Computer Vision
    has simply re-fertilized Computer Linguistic.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    How it started:

    Computers Still Can't Do Beautiful Mathematics - by Gina Kolata
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Mathematicians often say that their craft is as much an art
    as a science.-a But as more and more researchers are using
    computers to prove their theorems, some worry that the magic
    is in danger of fading away.

    How its going:

    Computers Do Produce Beautiful Mathematics - Dr. Larry Wos
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    In addition to exhibiting logical reasoning of the type
    found in mathematics, reasoning programs produce results
    that are startling and elegant.-a Dr. J. Lukasiewicz was well
    recognized for his contributions to areas of logic,

    and yet the program OTTER recently found a proof far shorter and
    more elegant than that produced by this eminent researcher,
    and the program used the same notation and style of
    reasoning.-a Mathematicians and logicians find elegance in
    shorter proofs.

    In August of 1990, Dr. Dana Scott of Carnegie Mellon
    University attended a workshop at Argonne National
    Laboratory.-a There he learned of OTTER and some of its uses
    and successes.-a Upon returning to his university, Dr.
    Scott's curiosity prompted him to suggest (via electronic
    mail) 68 theorems for consideration by the computer.

    His curiosity was almost immediately satisfied, for the sought-
    after 68 proofs were returned with the comment that all were
    obtained in a single computer run with the program--and in
    less than 16 CPU minutes on a Sun 4 workstation.-a Dr. Scott
    now uses his own copy of OTTER on his Macintosh.

    Dr. R. Smullyan of the University of Indiana showed
    great pleasure and surprise at learning of some of the
    successes achieved by an automated reasoning program.-a As
    evidence of his interest, he posed a number of questions,
    receiving in turn the answers to all but one of them--a
    question that is still open.
    https://theory.stanford.edu/~uribe/mail/qed.messages/91.html

    Bye






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