From Newsgroup: sci.logic

Hi,

Hyperspectral measurements for inter-calibration,
reached a significant milestone this summer.

The naval observatory only uses fidget spinners
to measure time, so forget Colorado.

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

So, there's at least three accounts of what can define "measurement of time", in the micro, meso, and macro.

Then these days pretty much the world relies on "the naval observatory
in Colorado" if not so much "the clock tower in Greenwich", as with
regards to ye olde UTC, CUT, "Zulu", and so on, time.

About relativity theory and "measuring rods and clocks", then, it's
similar that "metric and norm" for "length and distance" also has
about the Planckian what are "iota-values" as it would be, or, "Pauli Plancks", or "Dirac's Pauli Plancks", of measuring space, vis-a-vis, measuring time.

So, there are at least three accounts of what defines measuring time,
and at least three accounts of what defines measuring space.

Then, since relativity theory is defined by what does that,
it has the various ways, to so fulfill doing that.

Yeah, I know, most "professional physicists" only have one of those
on their little note-card with which they passed graduate school.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

Or shaves pennies.

X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVMrao) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning.
https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe

Cost/hour: $200,000.00

LoL

Bye

P.S.: If it could do some quant trading magic, one would
possibly pay so much. But Logtalk is simply too lame:

Version release notes
XVM Engine v10.2.4 is the full engine capable of running
all XVM and Logtalk programs, excluding for logtalk tools.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

The 9122171.18175435 is a little offending, what if one
keeps a federal secret after the 6 fraction digit?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Ok, leaving the beaten path of my Prolog system
probing, and look at some newer beast.

This looks bad:

?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
9122171.18175435

Expected result:

?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
9122171.181754

Bye

BTW: Tested using this test tester:

X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVMrao) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning.
https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe

Mild Shock schrieb:

See also:
https://prolog-lang.org/ImprovementsForum/0110-format.html

--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: sci.logic

Hi,

The nature of time has puzzled people -- from the ancient
Greeks to the present day -- Especially the nosomatic
perception of time is a hot topic now.

How does time evolve inside a GPU with multiple units
or a CPU with multiple cores. GPUs even having multiple
logical threads inside a group.

Forget the von Neumann model of computing. You need
a total new thinking of shared memory and more
message passing, and have a grip of vector and

matrix tiling of problems. -C-WAM already deploys
logic tiling in its Seven Eleven demonstrator. So forget
everything you have learned in your BASIC computer

course for your Sputnik Commodore C64 with 8088.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Hyperspectral measurements for inter-calibration,
reached a significant milestone this summer.

The naval observatory only uses fidget spinners
to measure time, so forget Colorado.

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

So, there's at least three accounts of what can define "measurement of time", in the micro, meso, and macro.

Then these days pretty much the world relies on "the naval observatory
in Colorado" if not so much "the clock tower in Greenwich", as with regards to ye olde UTC, CUT, "Zulu", and so on, time.

About relativity theory and "measuring rods and clocks", then, it's similar that "metric and norm" for "length and distance" also has
about the Planckian what are "iota-values" as it would be, or, "Pauli Plancks", or "Dirac's Pauli Plancks", of measuring space, vis-a-vis, measuring time.

So, there are at least three accounts of what defines measuring time,
and at least three accounts of what defines measuring space.

Then, since relativity theory is defined by what does that,
it has the various ways, to so fulfill doing that.

Yeah, I know, most "professional physicists" only have one of those
on their little note-card with which they passed graduate school.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

Or shaves pennies.

X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVMrao) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning.
https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe

Cost/hour: $200,000.00

LoL

Bye

P.S.: If it could do some quant trading magic, one would
possibly pay so much. But Logtalk is simply too lame:

Version release notes
XVM Engine v10.2.4 is the full engine capable of running
all XVM and Logtalk programs, excluding for logtalk tools.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

The 9122171.18175435 is a little offending, what if one
keeps a federal secret after the 6 fraction digit?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Ok, leaving the beaten path of my Prolog system
probing, and look at some newer beast.

This looks bad:

?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
9122171.18175435

Expected result:

?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
9122171.181754

Bye

BTW: Tested using this test tester:

X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVMrao) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning.
https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe

Mild Shock schrieb:

See also:
https://prolog-lang.org/ImprovementsForum/0110-format.html

--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: sci.logic

Hi,

A nosomatic AI chirurgeon is a halfling student
of sickness, and a master of the ebb and flow of
the energies of life and death of data packets.

He is a air bender, water bender and earth bender
in one person, using OpenVINO to juggle with
CPU, GPU and NPU.

Last but not least he can freely switch between
symbolic and neural representation of knowledge
forms, there is no abyss for him.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

The nature of time has puzzled people -- from the ancient
Greeks to the present day -- Especially the nosomatic
perception of time is a hot topic now.

How does time evolve inside a GPU with multiple units
or a CPU with multiple cores. GPUs even having multiple
logical threads inside a group.

Forget the von Neumann model of computing. You need
a total new thinking of shared memory and more
message passing, and have a grip of vector and

matrix tiling of problems. -C-WAM already deploys
logic tiling in its Seven Eleven demonstrator. So forget
everything you have learned in your BASIC computer

course for your Sputnik Commodore C64 with 8088.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Hyperspectral measurements for inter-calibration,
reached a significant milestone this summer.

The naval observatory only uses fidget spinners
to measure time, so forget Colorado.

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

So, there's at least three accounts of what can define "measurement of >> -a> time", in the micro, meso, and macro.

Then these days pretty much the world relies on "the naval observatory >> -a> in Colorado" if not so much "the clock tower in Greenwich", as with
regards to ye olde UTC, CUT, "Zulu", and so on, time.

About relativity theory and "measuring rods and clocks", then, it's
similar that "metric and norm" for "length and distance" also has
about the Planckian what are "iota-values" as it would be, or, "Pauli
Plancks", or "Dirac's Pauli Plancks", of measuring space, vis-a-vis,
measuring time.


So, there are at least three accounts of what defines measuring time,
and at least three accounts of what defines measuring space.


Then, since relativity theory is defined by what does that,
it has the various ways, to so fulfill doing that.


Yeah, I know, most "professional physicists" only have one of those
on their little note-card with which they passed graduate school.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

Or shaves pennies.

X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVMrao) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning. >>> -a>>> https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe

Cost/hour: $200,000.00

LoL

Bye

P.S.: If it could do some quant trading magic, one would
possibly pay so much. But Logtalk is simply too lame:

Version release notes
XVM Engine v10.2.4 is the full engine capable of running
all XVM and Logtalk programs, excluding for logtalk tools.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

The 9122171.18175435 is a little offending, what if one
keeps a federal secret after the 6 fraction digit?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Ok, leaving the beaten path of my Prolog system
probing, and look at some newer beast.

This looks bad:

?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
9122171.18175435

Expected result:

?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
9122171.181754

Bye

BTW: Tested using this test tester:

X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVMrao) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning.
https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe

Mild Shock schrieb:

See also:
https://prolog-lang.org/ImprovementsForum/0110-format.html

--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: sci.logic

Mild Shock wrote:

Hi,

The nature of time has puzzled people -- from the ancient
Greeks to the present day -- Especially the nosomatic
perception of time is a hot topic now.

But here you are to explain it all. It's easy for you because with your Creationist fantasies the Earth is only 6,000 years old. It's the height
of foolishness, but you guys profess it because I guess it's not a
simple matter to demonstrate the geological core that clearly indicates billions of years. You can hand wave that away and point at the Ming
Dynasty as the first men walking the Earth. How simple time is for you. Simple, but entirely mistaken and false.
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: sci.logic

Hi,

You refuse to undertand the NVIDIA Volta
archecture. You claim to like in the
sense of "That's a good quote" some

completely made up nonsense? Bravo! I just
copied a nasa article title, which had nothing
to do with "time" per se:

CLARREO Pathfinder
https://science.nasa.gov/mission/clarreo-pathfinder/

Its more a very big vacuum cleaner, that can
scan highly accurate measurements of sunlight
reflected by the Earth and the Moon.

You are just a moron, that still feels harware
evelution a treat, but would like to see data
from a Einstein pathfinder. As if this

is not the ultimate tech cult?

As always you suck, like nobody else ever
sucked on the usenet. You are just completely
bonkers, the bigger crank than Archimedes

Plutonion and John Gabriel.

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

Well, like Einstein says, relativity is defined
by at least two different clocks -
might as well be three.

That's a good quote, I quote me on that.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Hyperspectral measurements for inter-calibration,
reached a significant milestone this summer.

The naval observatory only uses fidget spinners
to measure time, so forget Colorado.

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

So, there's at least three accounts of what can define "measurement of time", in the micro, meso, and macro.

Then these days pretty much the world relies on "the naval observatory
in Colorado" if not so much "the clock tower in Greenwich", as with regards to ye olde UTC, CUT, "Zulu", and so on, time.

About relativity theory and "measuring rods and clocks", then, it's similar that "metric and norm" for "length and distance" also has
about the Planckian what are "iota-values" as it would be, or, "Pauli Plancks", or "Dirac's Pauli Plancks", of measuring space, vis-a-vis, measuring time.

So, there are at least three accounts of what defines measuring time,
and at least three accounts of what defines measuring space.

Then, since relativity theory is defined by what does that,
it has the various ways, to so fulfill doing that.

Yeah, I know, most "professional physicists" only have one of those
on their little note-card with which they passed graduate school.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

Or shaves pennies.

X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVMrao) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning.
https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe

Cost/hour: $200,000.00

LoL

Bye

P.S.: If it could do some quant trading magic, one would
possibly pay so much. But Logtalk is simply too lame:

Version release notes
XVM Engine v10.2.4 is the full engine capable of running
all XVM and Logtalk programs, excluding for logtalk tools.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

The 9122171.18175435 is a little offending, what if one
keeps a federal secret after the 6 fraction digit?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Ok, leaving the beaten path of my Prolog system
probing, and look at some newer beast.

This looks bad:

?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
9122171.18175435

Expected result:

?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
9122171.181754

Bye

BTW: Tested using this test tester:

X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVMrao) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning.
https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe

Mild Shock schrieb:

See also:
https://prolog-lang.org/ImprovementsForum/0110-format.html

--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: sci.logic

Hi

BTW, NVIDIA had a GPU card named Einstein and
an Einstein project. I guess these earth
and star gazers would like to number crunch

images with Q8.24 RGB values. Now Einstein
name was adopted for another GPU Project:

We had a number of tutorials on CarpetX
and science codes based on CarpetX, the new,
GPU-enabled version of the Einstein Toolkit.
https://einsteintoolkit.org/

The results show excellent agreement with
the well-established LazEv code. Scaling
tests on CPU (Frontera) and GPU (Vista)
clusters reveal significant performance

gains, with the new implementation achieving
improved speed and scalability compared
to the Carpet-based version.
GPU-accelerated Subcycling Time
Integration with the Einstein Toolkit
https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.09629

GPUs were traditionally used by earth and
star gazers early on, because they can
speed up the scanning of large areas,

also in 4 dimensions, i.e. space and time.

Have Fun!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

You refuse to undertand the NVIDIA Volta
archecture. You claim to like in the
sense of "That's a good quote" some

completely made up nonsense? Bravo! I just
copied a nasa article title, which had nothing
to do with "time" per se:

CLARREO Pathfinder
https://science.nasa.gov/mission/clarreo-pathfinder/

Its more a very big vacuum cleaner, that can
scan highly accurate measurements of sunlight
reflected by the Earth and the Moon.

You are just a moron, that still feels harware
evelution a treat, but would like to see data
from a Einstein pathfinder. As if this

is not the ultimate tech cult?

As always you suck, like nobody else ever
sucked on the usenet. You are just completely
bonkers, the bigger crank than Archimedes

Plutonion and John Gabriel.

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

Well, like Einstein says, relativity is defined
by at least two different clocks -
might as well be three.



That's a good quote, I quote me on that.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Hyperspectral measurements for inter-calibration,
reached a significant milestone this summer.

The naval observatory only uses fidget spinners
to measure time, so forget Colorado.

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

So, there's at least three accounts of what can define "measurement of >> -a> time", in the micro, meso, and macro.

Then these days pretty much the world relies on "the naval observatory >> -a> in Colorado" if not so much "the clock tower in Greenwich", as with
regards to ye olde UTC, CUT, "Zulu", and so on, time.

About relativity theory and "measuring rods and clocks", then, it's
similar that "metric and norm" for "length and distance" also has
about the Planckian what are "iota-values" as it would be, or, "Pauli
Plancks", or "Dirac's Pauli Plancks", of measuring space, vis-a-vis,
measuring time.


So, there are at least three accounts of what defines measuring time,
and at least three accounts of what defines measuring space.


Then, since relativity theory is defined by what does that,
it has the various ways, to so fulfill doing that.


Yeah, I know, most "professional physicists" only have one of those
on their little note-card with which they passed graduate school.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

Or shaves pennies.

X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVMrao) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning. >>> -a>>> https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe

Cost/hour: $200,000.00

LoL

Bye

P.S.: If it could do some quant trading magic, one would
possibly pay so much. But Logtalk is simply too lame:

Version release notes
XVM Engine v10.2.4 is the full engine capable of running
all XVM and Logtalk programs, excluding for logtalk tools.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

The 9122171.18175435 is a little offending, what if one
keeps a federal secret after the 6 fraction digit?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Ok, leaving the beaten path of my Prolog system
probing, and look at some newer beast.

This looks bad:

?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
9122171.18175435

Expected result:

?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
9122171.181754

Bye

BTW: Tested using this test tester:

X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVMrao) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning.
https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe

Mild Shock schrieb:

See also:
https://prolog-lang.org/ImprovementsForum/0110-format.html

--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: sci.logic

Hi,

"Space-based data centers or orbital AI
infrastructure are proposed concepts to
build AI data centers in the sun-synchronous
orbit or other orbits using space-
based solar power.

Space-based edge computing has historical
roots in military architectures designed
to bypass the latency of ground-based
targeting networks."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_data_center

Just to give you an idea. Translated to
the Einstein pathfinders. If the sensors
are in space, why not do the bulk processing

already in space?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi

BTW, NVIDIA had a GPU card named Einstein and
an Einstein project. I guess these earth
and star gazers would like to number crunch

images with Q8.24 RGB values. Now Einstein
name was adopted for another GPU Project:

We had a number of tutorials on CarpetX
and science codes based on CarpetX, the new,
GPU-enabled version of the Einstein Toolkit.
https://einsteintoolkit.org/

The results show excellent agreement with
the well-established LazEv code. Scaling
tests on CPU (Frontera) and GPU (Vista)
clusters reveal significant performance

gains, with the new implementation achieving
improved speed and scalability compared
to the Carpet-based version.
GPU-accelerated Subcycling Time
Integration with the Einstein Toolkit
https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.09629

GPUs were traditionally used by earth and
star gazers early on, because they can
speed up the scanning of large areas,

also in 4 dimensions, i.e. space and time.

Have Fun!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

You refuse to undertand the NVIDIA Volta
archecture. You claim to like in the
sense of "That's a good quote" some

completely made up nonsense? Bravo! I just
copied a nasa article title, which had nothing
to do with "time" per se:

CLARREO Pathfinder
https://science.nasa.gov/mission/clarreo-pathfinder/

Its more a very big vacuum cleaner, that can
scan highly accurate measurements of sunlight
reflected by the Earth and the Moon.

You are just a moron, that still feels harware
evelution a treat, but would like to see data
from a Einstein pathfinder. As if this

is not the ultimate tech cult?

As always you suck, like nobody else ever
sucked on the usenet. You are just completely
bonkers, the bigger crank than Archimedes

Plutonion and John Gabriel.

Bye

--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: sci.logic

On 07/27/2026 08:08 AM, Mild Shock wrote:

Hi,

You refuse to undertand the NVIDIA Volta
archecture. You claim to like in the
sense of "That's a good quote" some

completely made up nonsense? Bravo! I just
copied a nasa article title, which had nothing
to do with "time" per se:

CLARREO Pathfinder
https://science.nasa.gov/mission/clarreo-pathfinder/

Its more a very big vacuum cleaner, that can
scan highly accurate measurements of sunlight
reflected by the Earth and the Moon.

You are just a moron, that still feels harware
evelution a treat, but would like to see data
from a Einstein pathfinder. As if this

is not the ultimate tech cult?

As always you suck, like nobody else ever
sucked on the usenet. You are just completely
bonkers, the bigger crank than Archimedes

Plutonion and John Gabriel.

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

Well, like Einstein says, relativity is defined
by at least two different clocks -
might as well be three.



That's a good quote, I quote me on that.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Hyperspectral measurements for inter-calibration,
reached a significant milestone this summer.

The naval observatory only uses fidget spinners
to measure time, so forget Colorado.

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

So, there's at least three accounts of what can define "measurement of
time", in the micro, meso, and macro.

Then these days pretty much the world relies on "the naval observatory
in Colorado" if not so much "the clock tower in Greenwich", as with
regards to ye olde UTC, CUT, "Zulu", and so on, time.

About relativity theory and "measuring rods and clocks", then, it's
similar that "metric and norm" for "length and distance" also has
about the Planckian what are "iota-values" as it would be, or, "Pauli
Plancks", or "Dirac's Pauli Plancks", of measuring space, vis-a-vis,
measuring time.


So, there are at least three accounts of what defines measuring time,
and at least three accounts of what defines measuring space.


Then, since relativity theory is defined by what does that,
it has the various ways, to so fulfill doing that.


Yeah, I know, most "professional physicists" only have one of those
on their little note-card with which they passed graduate school.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

Or shaves pennies.

X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVMrao) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning.
https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe

Cost/hour: $200,000.00

LoL

Bye

P.S.: If it could do some quant trading magic, one would
possibly pay so much. But Logtalk is simply too lame:

Version release notes
XVM Engine v10.2.4 is the full engine capable of running
all XVM and Logtalk programs, excluding for logtalk tools.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

The 9122171.18175435 is a little offending, what if one
keeps a federal secret after the 6 fraction digit?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Ok, leaving the beaten path of my Prolog system
probing, and look at some newer beast.

This looks bad:

?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
9122171.18175435

Expected result:

?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
9122171.181754

Bye

BTW: Tested using this test tester:

X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVMrao) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning.
https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe

Mild Shock schrieb:

See also:
https://prolog-lang.org/ImprovementsForum/0110-format.html

That addled nincompoop, it cut the original context.
That's misrepresentation for you: making idiots worse.



Perhaps one of the best references for Einstein's theory of relativity
is Einstein's "Out of My Later Years", though it's a bit biographical in
the beginning and end, the middle sees laid out very specifically
what Einstein says is "relativity theory" ("a simple negative
stipulation").

The space contraction comes first from FitzGerald, decades before
Lorentz, and various accounts of Lorentzians, any account of which
models "relativity theory", make for real space contraction, in GR,
then Einstein for example separates the "spatial" and "spacial" of
"GR" and "SR".

Einstein also takes pains to clarify that "SR is local", then as with
regards to a clock hypothesis _and_ a universal clock hypothesis,
you can read Einstein explaining why it's so.


Here there are quite a variety of Lorentzians, about things like
Levi-Civita's "the indefiniteness of ds^2".

The plain pure SR-ians are partial, incomplete, and merely local.



Much like "meeting the Lorentzian" makes for a model of
relativity theory, "meeting the Schreodingerian" makes
for models of quantum mechanics.

So, a "doubly-objective relativity theory" may have
both relativity of motion and aside relativity of
space, so that once again there's an aether theory
in it, for example about how in "Sidelights on Relativity",
that Einstein makes accords for an aether in the theory.

Similarly for Born's infinite self-energy and Feynman's
renormalizibility of theories, after Reichenbach about
"Schroedingerians", the quantum mechanics can be a
continuous, deterministic quantum mechanics.

Then a "clock hypothesis" which is usually for anyone
a "universal clock hypothesis" and not the apologet-a-lit's "not-a-clock-hypothesis-hypothesis" is a usual idea, that
in general relativity usually keeps the geodesy (or other
accounts of the world-lines) current everywhere constantly,
or establishes all matters of time-dependence and time-ordering
in any account of quantum theory.


A) The geodesy's instantaneously evaluated everywhere over everywhere
all the time.

B) The time-ordering and time-dependence defines the action of QM.





By the time orthogonality, unitarity, _and_ complementarity get
satisfied, a universal "time" is always about the most moderating
influence.


About the charge-parity-time symmetries, charge symmetry and
parity symmetry have been broken, yet time symmetry has _never_
been falsified: making of itself that as a large overall experiment its
data supporting a "universal clock hypothesis".

Lagrangians are universally parameterized by _time_,
and, force the usual account as a vector is
always itself a function of _time_. (Instead of a tensor, ....)


Then, Einstein could be read as "you know, sometimes people read
too much into what I say, ...", then also "well, you know, Einstein's relativity theory that's Newtonian in the limit is very good at that,
not saying much, actually I have a bit of a problem with the Newtonian
and by that I mean the Galilean, so, here's a reasoning why the space-contraction if it would be would vary for space-contraction-linear
and space-contraction-rotational, and about classical mechanics
itself before we get to the Mach-ian and a total field theory since
there's always an extra-local aspect to any field theory, which physics is".





Now I notice that some recent literature has been absconding with
the term "time-dependence" after "time-ordering", this is that
various accounts of causality and quantum causality which Reichenbach
says that Schroedingerians (as systems) as they would be have only
one job about "quantum causality", that in the recent literature
there are accounts of

A) "clock hypothesis" that's _not_ a clock hypothesis
B) "time-dependence" that's _not_ time-dependence

and other usual accounts since "negative time" (that's since
time-symmetry has never been falsified, has always been falsified,
as about "there are no closed finite time-like curves"),
that those are considered incompatible with the rest of
the literature.

So, those modern accounts worming around matters of definition
are as of a Babel-style babble their abuses of language.


Then about notions like "A-Theory" and "B-Theory" of time, ...,
here there's a universal clock hypothesis and clocks either
slow or meet, so there's never "negative time", and then
that in a convolutive sort of framework, for complementarity,
the stacks of derivation are re-visitable. (Then here there's
that "The A-Theory" as an axiomless then formal system with principles
of the Inverse and Thorough Reason" is so named a decade or more
before these other "A-Theory" accounts, and these days is
further expounded upon as "thea-theory", then with quite a
thorough attachment to both the idealistic and analytical traditions,
for an overall account of reason.)



Most people understand "relativity theory" naturally
as having their own account of having a perspective among perspectives,
and theorizing things as from more than one perspective,
that's mostly all there is to it, then for the more formally
specified bits about "relativity of motion" making for "relativity of
space", a "doubly-objective" relativity theory, then that this gets into natural definitions of space-frames and frame-spaces or Rahme-Raumen and Raume-Rahmen, then that the L-principle is a usual enough thing, most
people with any sense in their head who aren't entirely self-ish
"understand" "relativity theory".

Then they also usually understand "absolutes" first, also.





When thinking about "theory", I like the idea of having just one theory.

I think you may also, though if you're a nominalist fictionalist who's
a fragmented pluralist and absent ideals of regularities and rulialities
their repleteness in truth and causality for infinity and continuity, it
may be difficult.

That said the idea that all the accounts amount makes for a usual
sort of "one-world" hypothesis and a "universal clock hypothesis",
usually enough according to a "cosmological principle" that the
laws of nature are the same everywhere, even if the finite creatures
that usual thinking and feeling beings are have limits.

Thusly for paradox-free reason and constancy in definition for
a constant, consistent, complete, concrete theory, it's a usual
notion that students and researchers in "Foundations" find appealing.

And compelling, ....





Also there's that relativity theory and quantum mechanics disagree
with each other "120 orders of decimal magnitude", also there's
that neither has gravity in the theory, and neither has "rest" itself,
though of course there's a usual notion of "rest frame" and "particle"
and as about "the geodesy" and "the weakest force".


So, a reasonable sort of theory would be putting gravity into the
theories as alike a fall-gravity for the geodesy (or orbifold) for
relativity theories so that energy conservation isn't constantly
violated everywhere, and fall-gravity for the strong nuclear force
for quantum mechanics so that energy conservation isn't constantly
violated everywhere.


fall-gravity




That's why there are all the other systems of units.




What about that _length_ and _distance_ have different units,
about the _metric_ and _norm_, about _distance_ being _length_
in _time_, that time (its elapsed duration) could be defined
according to space-contraction instead of the other way around?


According to "references", ....


Otherwise those are going to vary under gravity, under acceleration,
and so on.


While there's often mentioned the GPS reference frequency,
not so much the GPS station operator's and station-keeping guide,
with that receivers >> stations.

So, another way to identify a metrology of time is "quasars"
instead of "hyper-fine transitions of the cesium atom,
in a museum in France".




It follows from the functional-freedom bit and various other
reasonings (that relativity theory and quantum theory falsify
each other).

If "creationists" is to mean "Big-Bang cosmologists with their
inflationary cosmology and expanding universe", that's the cosmology
they have, yet, there are others.


Of course everybody knows that the Earth's ephemeris is according
to "parameterized post-Newtonian", and that the definitions of the
quantum mechanics these days include gamma or quadru/multi-pole moments.



The NIST Particle Data Group CODATA releases the measured values
of fundamental physical constants every few years, the small ones
get not only more precise, also _smaller_, helping also inform that
the "running constants" of physics get involved.

So, physics is according to NIST CODATA, with SI: Systeme
Internationale, a reduced second, i.e. not first and quite reduced.


Then most people are also unawares how things like Boltzmann and
Planck constants as physical constants are much mathematical constants
that reflect their placement in terms for algebraic reductions again,
for example the roots of x^2 +-x +-1 like the molar gas constant in
the Boltzmann constant, then as with regards to Planck constant about
what mathematical reductionism is ongoing in the Planckian, why
those aren't exactly "physical" constants.


Anyways that "time" can be defined by "an average field of quasar
measurements" is a thing.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron




So, there's at least three accounts of what can define "measurement of
time", in the micro, meso, and macro.

Then these days pretty much the world relies on "the naval observatory
in Colorado" if not so much "the clock tower in Greenwich", as with
regards to ye olde UTC, CUT, "Zulu", and so on, time.

About relativity theory and "measuring rods and clocks", then, it's
similar that "metric and norm" for "length and distance" also has
about the Planckian what are "iota-values" as it would be, or, "Pauli
Plancks", or "Dirac's Pauli Plancks", of measuring space, vis-a-vis,
measuring time.


So, there are at least three accounts of what defines measuring time,
and at least three accounts of what defines measuring space.


Then, since relativity theory is defined by what does that,
it has the various ways, to so fulfill doing that.


Yeah, I know, most "professional physicists" only have one of those
on their little note-card with which they passed graduate school.




Thanks for writing.

I'm curious how to interpret the smiley, usually enough it's
a reaction of spontaneous happiness, yet in some regards it's
as like the monkey's grimace that's usually aggression or fear.

Then, the idea that there are "collective clocks" and that for
time there are independent metrologies of time as about

the atomic clock,
the synchroton clock,
and the quasar clock,

that would advise a lot of the context about "the clock hypothesis",
and also the role of clocks with rigid measuring rods of length,
for the metrology (the science of measurement) of space,
the metrologies, a metrology.







See, by ignoring trolls and omitting my put-downs of them,
concatenating my posts makes natural linear narrative.










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Hi,

Now that the debate with Chris M. Thomasson
has culminated in questions of elasticity,
I suggest this homework:

- Game Engine in WebGPU
It will support the life cycle of sprites,
like sprites comming out of nowhere,
and being destroyed by arms,
just like in Space invader.

This would be surely a fantastic exercise,
to see what a GPU can do and cannot do,
in respect of life cycle of threads, especially

modern GPUs that sell the CUDA dream.

Have Fun!

Become a nosomatic AI chirurgeon.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

A nosomatic AI chirurgeon is a halfling student
of sickness, and a master of the ebb and flow of
the energies of life and death of data packets.

He is a air bender, water bender and earth bender
in one person, using OpenVINO to juggle with
CPU, GPU and NPU.

Last but not least he can freely switch between
symbolic and neural representation of knowledge
forms, there is no abyss for him.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

The nature of time has puzzled people -- from the ancient
Greeks to the present day -- Especially the nosomatic
perception of time is a hot topic now.

How does time evolve inside a GPU with multiple units
or a CPU with multiple cores. GPUs even having multiple
logical threads inside a group.

Forget the von Neumann model of computing. You need
a total new thinking of shared memory and more
message passing, and have a grip of vector and

matrix tiling of problems. -C-WAM already deploys
logic tiling in its Seven Eleven demonstrator. So forget
everything you have learned in your BASIC computer

course for your Sputnik Commodore C64 with 8088.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Hyperspectral measurements for inter-calibration,
reached a significant milestone this summer.

The naval observatory only uses fidget spinners
to measure time, so forget Colorado.

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

So, there's at least three accounts of what can define

"measurement of

time", in the micro, meso, and macro.

Then these days pretty much the world relies on "the naval

observatory

in Colorado" if not so much "the clock tower in Greenwich", as with
regards to ye olde UTC, CUT, "Zulu", and so on, time.

About relativity theory and "measuring rods and clocks", then, it's
similar that "metric and norm" for "length and distance" also has
about the Planckian what are "iota-values" as it would be, or, "Pauli >>> -a> Plancks", or "Dirac's Pauli Plancks", of measuring space, vis-a-vis, >>> -a> measuring time.


So, there are at least three accounts of what defines measuring time, >>> -a> and at least three accounts of what defines measuring space.


Then, since relativity theory is defined by what does that,
it has the various ways, to so fulfill doing that.


Yeah, I know, most "professional physicists" only have one of those
on their little note-card with which they passed graduate school.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

Or shaves pennies.

X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVMrao) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI >>>> -a>>> processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning. >>>> -a>>> https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe

Cost/hour: $200,000.00

LoL

Bye

P.S.: If it could do some quant trading magic, one would
possibly pay so much. But Logtalk is simply too lame:

Version release notes
XVM Engine v10.2.4 is the full engine capable of running
all XVM and Logtalk programs, excluding for logtalk tools.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

The 9122171.18175435 is a little offending, what if one
keeps a federal secret after the 6 fraction digit?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Ok, leaving the beaten path of my Prolog system
probing, and look at some newer beast.

This looks bad:

?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
9122171.18175435

Expected result:

?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
9122171.181754

Bye

BTW: Tested using this test tester:

X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVMrao) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI >>>>>> processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning. >>>>>> https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe

Mild Shock schrieb:

See also:
https://prolog-lang.org/ImprovementsForum/0110-format.html

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Hi,

I've also added comp.theory so Mild Shock can comment.

that has different
* sizeof ( void * ), and
* sizeof ( void (*)( void ) ),

Could indicate a data RAM and code ROM model.
Which has then the advantage of:

Modern operating systems like Windows 11
enforce strict Data Execution Prevention (DEP)
(or NX/XD bit security features) to prevent
malicious programs from injecting and executing
code inside data-only memory regions. https://root-nation.com/en/soft-en/lifehacks/en-dep-windows-all-about/

I adopted data RAM and code ROM model for
pi-WAM from Hack, which has the same separation:

Slide 58, Hack Computer https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z_fxYmmRNXTkAzmZ6YMoX9NXZIRVCKiw/view

But my motivation was not Johnny Depp prevention.
Rather the caching of GPUs. Because WGSL
allows storage annotations read_write and

read. I use read_write for the data RAM
of my Hack VM variant, and read for the
code ROM of my Hack VM variant. You can

see that here, its open source:

@group(0) @binding(0) var<storage, read> code: array<i32>;
@group(0) @binding(1) var<storage, read_write> state: array<i32>;

11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget

Hope this Helps!

Bye

Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:

On 03/08/2026 6:28 PM, David Brown wrote:

On 03/08/2026 11:41, Richard Harnden wrote:

On 03/08/2026 09:16, David Brown wrote:

On most targets, function pointers are the same size as void*

pointers. But there are exceptions, with some small microcontrollers and
DSPs having different kinds of pointers with different sizes, depending
on the memory space involved. I have yet to see a situation where there
was any reason for storing a function address in a "void*" rather than a
more appropriate typedef, such as :

typedef void (*FVoid)(void);

dlsym requires that pointer-to-function is compatible with a void*

As I say, I have yet to see a situation where using void* for

function pointers was more appropriate than using a function pointer
type. If the OS system calls or standard OS libraries makes it a
requirement that function pointers are converted to or from void* for
some calls, then of course you need to follow those requirements - it's
the people who designed the interfaces that made questionable design
choices.

Nope, you're wrong. You're dead wrong. The world isn't built on C,
even though here in comp.lang.c we like to pretend it is.

Several language environments allow function generation on the fly,
these functions need to be garbage collected. Common Lisp is an
example, therefore comp.lang.lisp is added to this discussion.

I've also added comp.theory so Mild Shock can comment.

You will have to go out of your way to make a computer architecture incompatible with garbage collected and heap allocated binary code, something I've been told SBCL does internally [1] to create an archi- tecture that has different

* sizeof ( void * ), and
* sizeof ( void (*)( void ) ),

and when you do that, I'll just claim you're making a /malicious
computer architecture/ and refuse to use it.

[1] I've not looked at the code, but told the garbage collector can
and will at least move the code around, if not collect it.

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Hi,

Well there are two viewpoint, the "client"
of the GPU, which is the CPU, and the "server"
of the GPU, which is the command processor

queue of the GPU device. So basically as
a CPU client I can write the memory area,
that is later mapped to my GPU code storage.

And this way have a compiler, even written
in Prolog, that compiles pi-WAM to my Hack VM,
that can then be then deployed to GPU.

You could also try the same with a Tiny
LISP VM. And a grown up LISP to act as
the compiler. Would be a similar exercise.

Have Fun!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

I've also added comp.theory so Mild Shock can comment.

that has different
*-a sizeof ( void * ), and
*-a sizeof ( void (*)( void ) ),

Could indicate a data RAM and code ROM model.
Which has then the advantage of:

Modern operating systems like Windows 11
enforce strict Data Execution Prevention (DEP)
(or NX/XD bit security features) to prevent
malicious programs from injecting and executing
code inside data-only memory regions. https://root-nation.com/en/soft-en/lifehacks/en-dep-windows-all-about/

I adopted data RAM and code ROM model for
pi-WAM from Hack, which has the same separation:

Slide 58, Hack Computer https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z_fxYmmRNXTkAzmZ6YMoX9NXZIRVCKiw/view

But my motivation was not Johnny Depp prevention.
Rather the caching of GPUs. Because WGSL
allows storage annotations read_write and

read. I use read_write for the data RAM
of my Hack VM variant, and read for the
code ROM of my Hack VM variant. You can

see that here, its open source:

@group(0) @binding(0) var<storage, read> code: array<i32>;
@group(0) @binding(1) var<storage, read_write> state: array<i32>;

11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget

Hope this Helps!

Bye

Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:

On 03/08/2026 6:28 PM, David Brown wrote:

On 03/08/2026 11:41, Richard Harnden wrote:

On 03/08/2026 09:16, David Brown wrote:

On most targets, function pointers are the same size as void* pointers. But there are exceptions, with some small microcontrollers and DSPs having different kinds of pointers with different sizes, depending

on the memory space involved.-a I have yet to see a situation where there was any reason for storing a function address in a "void*" rather than a more appropriate typedef, such as :

-a-a-a-a-a typedef void (*FVoid)(void);

dlsym requires that pointer-to-function is compatible with a void*

As I say, I have yet to see a situation where using void* for

function pointers was more appropriate than using a function pointer
type.-a If the OS system calls or standard OS libraries makes it a requirement that function pointers are converted to or from void* for
some calls, then of course you need to follow those requirements - it's
the people who designed the interfaces that made questionable design choices.

Nope, you're wrong.-a You're dead wrong.-a The world isn't built on C, even though here in comp.lang.c we like to pretend it is.

Several language environments allow function generation on the fly,
these functions need to be garbage collected.-a Common Lisp is an
example, therefore comp.lang.lisp is added to this discussion.

I've also added comp.theory so Mild Shock can comment.

You will have to go out of your way to make a computer architecture incompatible with garbage collected and heap allocated binary code, something I've been told SBCL does internally [1] to create an archi- tecture that has different

*-a sizeof ( void * ), and
*-a sizeof ( void (*)( void ) ),

and when you do that, I'll just claim you're making a /malicious
computer architecture/ and refuse to use it.

[1] I've not looked at the code, but told the garbage collector can
and will at least move the code around, if not collect it.

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Hi,

How do you break out of a loop,

What Hamelt is to English language, is Hack to
Compiler Construction. The playbook of Hack contains
every drama that a Compiler Construction will face.
In the following we show how we realized Project 6:
Assembler from the Nand to Tetris journey via
a little Prolog DSL.

BTW, roughly or maybe not?
Hack (the book) =
Nand to Tetris (the website) =
Nisan, N. and Schocken, S. (the authors)

See also:

-C-WAM Assembly: Comfortable Labels and Goto https://medium.com/2989/1a11dd512813

Have Fun!

Bye


Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

pi-WAM is compiled to Hack VM. You
can realize goto's wherever you want. The
Hack VM I am using is a variant of:

The Elements of Computing Systems
Nisan, N. and Schocken, S. - June 15, 2021, MIT Press https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262539807/the-elements-of-computing-systems/

I just combine the 16-bit A and D instructions
into single 32-bit instructions. You
find a Hack VM interpreter for WebGPU here:

11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget

Hava Fun!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Using Java sometimes doesn't make me a Java
evangelist. I wouldn't care less about any
programming language, because the idea of

pi-WAM draws from pi-calculus and WAM. But
since we are in 2026, not many people
might remember pi-calculus:

Functions as Processes
Robin Milner - June 1989
https://hal.science/docs/00/07/54/05/PDF/RR-1154.pdf

AI chat bots know pi-calculus from time to
time, while interacting, they spit out
pi-calculus. I have always to tame them,

and let them cool down, since well, the
pi-calculus doesn't happen directly in the
pi-WAM. Rather in the FFI, which has create

operations on threads and queue, frankly my
pi-WAM is an extremly crippled, has only
a few primitives from pi-calculus.

BYe

Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:

On 29/07/2026 11:25 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

On 07/29/2026 08:11 AM, Mild Shock wrote:


Then, of course, the idea that it naturally employs or "saturates"
the processor resources while doing work, in the low-level, yet
also has a direct interpretation in higher-level languages, even
"higher-level languages without GOTO", has also that it's faster
in both machine-organized, compiled, and interpreted environments.

Didn't you say in some other post you've done Java professionally?

How do you break out of a loop, from within a switch () statement
in Java? I gather that's simply impossible, because "goto" isn't
implemented, and the "break" statement doesn't see labels outside
the switch ()?

Not sure how well that fits within comp.theory, as I haven't sub-
scribed yet, but perhaps Mild Shock is willing to comment on that
glaring deficiency in the Java programming language?

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