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re: (who is fondly remembered by fans of ...)


Mark Gatiss (who is fondly remembered by fans of rCLSherlockrCY) continues to find interesting things to do: his six-episode series rCLBookishrCY has been acquired by PBS-TV <www.tinyurl.com/38wnxfe5>. You can watch an interview about the series at <www.youtube.com/watch?v=atOB9W2ELd4>, and the series is available at Daily Motion <www.dailymotion.com/video/x9n1sum>.


---------- When I read the above, I went... [Oh, I didn't know Gatiss had died]

my AI tells me that my assumption is.............
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James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:

HenHanna@NewsGrouper <user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:

re: (who is fondly remembered by fans of ...)

Mark Gatiss (who is fondly remembered by fans of rCLSherlockrCY) continues to find interesting things to do: his six-episode series rCLBookishrCY has been acquired by PBS-TV <www.tinyurl.com/38wnxfe5>. You can watch an interview about the series at <www.youtube.com/watch?v=atOB9W2ELd4>, and the series is available at Daily Motion <www.dailymotion.com/video/x9n1sum>.

---------- When I read the above, I went... [Oh, I didn't know Gatiss had died]

my AI tells me that my assumption is.............

The complete sentence tells us Gatiss is still alive. And even the parenthesized
clause can imply that "Sherlock", rather than Gatiss, is terminated.

But the inference you made isn't always wrong. Just now I used Google's N-gram
viewer (https://books.google.com/ngrams/) to look for occurrences of "immortal Jolson." Al Jolson died in late 1950, about when occurrences
of "immortal Jolson" become non-zero. "immortal Mark Twain" also has a rise in 1910, when that great American writer died. Here's a very recent usage:

A Duke University professor wrote:

Don't rely on fluff words like very or extremely to strengthen your points. In the words of the immortal Mark Twain: Substitute "damn" every time you're inclined to write "very"; your editor will delete it and the writing will be just as it should be.

BTW, I tried and failed with several other examples before coming up
with "immortal Jolson" and "immortal Mark Twain" to prove my point.
I guess even living people can be called "immortal" if they're great enough.

The use of "immortal" to refer to a person only when dead seems contradictory since "immortal" literally means "will live forever."
The adjective "ever-living" is similar. Both "ever-living" and "immortal" appeared in print circa 1608 referring to Shakespeare; this has been used by some as evidence that that poet was deceased by that date.

- - - - - - - - - - - -

On a sadder note, Firefox has suddenly stopped accepting Ctrl-F for
"Find on Page." Why is that? Have I accidentally misconfigured something? ("Find on Page" is still available from Ffox's control menu.)
Google tells me that some websites over-ride Ctrl-F, but I verify
that the problem affects even my own website, which isn't smart
enough to be so Machiavellian.
(Ctrl-S and Ctrl-U also no longer work. Only Firefox is affected;
Chrome and Edge still work as usual.)

Cheers,
James

A few weeks ago i stopped using Firefox and switched to Chrome -- because Gmail was running too slow on Firefox.




_________________________________Google's AI says:

The phrase "fondly remembered by" is predominantly used in obituaries, eulogies, and tributes to signify that a person has passed away and is being recalled with affection. It is a conventional, formal expression designed to honor the deceased. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]


Key Aspects of Usage:

rCo Context: It is almost exclusively found in funeral-related contexts or memorial messages.

rCo Tone: The tone is warm and affectionate.

rCo Common Phrases: It is frequently paired with phrases like "sadly missed," "will be," or "lovingly remembered".

rCo Exceptions: While mostly used for the deceased, it can occasionally be used for someone who has moved away or left a position (e.g., "She will be fondly remembered by her colleagues"). [1, 4, 6, 7, 8]

Example in an Obituary:
"She will be fondly remembered by her son, William, two daughters, Helen and Maisie, and her husband, John." Alternatives for the Deceased:

rCo Lovingly remembered by
rCo Forever remembered by
rCo Cherished in memory by
rCo Will be sadly missed by [6, 8, 9]

AI can make mistakes, so double-check responses

[1]-ahttps://ludwig.guru/s/He+will+be+fondly+remembered [2]-ahttps://www.milanomonuments.com/blog/97-memorial-quotes-to-use-for-inspiration
[3]-ahttps://ludwig.guru/s/He+will+be+fondly+remembered [4]-ahttps://ludwig.guru/s/she+will+be+fondly+remembered?ref=follow [5]-ahttps://sfdmagazine.com/blogs/blog-entries/2/Articles/51/Why-Do-People-Make-Tributes-to-Other-People.html
[6]-ahttps://www.pdfchef.com/obituary-template.html [7]-ahttps://ludwig.guru/s/be+fondly+remembered+by [8]-ahttps://www.connelly-mckinley.com/resources/inspiration-for-writing-a-meaningful-obituary
[9]-ahttps://ludwig.guru/s/fondly+remembered+by

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