wrote:Probably one or more electrolytic capacitors. Do you have an ESR
Hello,
Bought second hand one year ago but according to serial code plaque >fabricated 11 years ago. My bread making Unold 8695 delivered good bread
for more than one year now.
Beginning with last week begun not switching on immediately. One minute
delay became one hour today. Text on the small display is clearly dimmed. >Last week reset itself twice along the program. Eventually being able to >complete.
Producer amazingly has a spare rCLpower control boardrCY. But sales ended in >2020 and part may be even older. I am not sure it would solve.
I was thinking it may be an old capacitor. But I am not very good at >electronics. Suggestions? Thanks for sharing.
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com
wrote:
Hello,Probably one or more electrolytic capacitors. Do you have an ESR
Bought second hand one year ago but according to serial code plaque
fabricated 11 years ago. My bread making Unold 8695 delivered good bread
for more than one year now.
Beginning with last week begun not switching on immediately. One minute
delay became one hour today. Text on the small display is clearly dimmed.
Last week reset itself twice along the program. Eventually being able to
complete.
Producer amazingly has a spare rCLpower control boardrCY. But sales ended in >> 2020 and part may be even older. I am not sure it would solve.
I was thinking it may be an old capacitor. But I am not very good at
electronics. Suggestions? Thanks for sharing.
meter?
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com
wrote:
Hello,Probably one or more electrolytic capacitors. Do you have an ESR
Bought second hand one year ago but according to serial code plaque
fabricated 11 years ago. My bread making Unold 8695 delivered good bread
for more than one year now.
Beginning with last week begun not switching on immediately. One minute
delay became one hour today. Text on the small display is clearly dimmed.
Last week reset itself twice along the program. Eventually being able to
complete.
Producer amazingly has a spare rCLpower control boardrCY. But sales ended in >> 2020 and part may be even older. I am not sure it would solve.
I was thinking it may be an old capacitor. But I am not very good at
electronics. Suggestions? Thanks for sharing.
meter?
Chuck <chuck23@dejanews.net> wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com
wrote:
Hello,Probably one or more electrolytic capacitors. Do you have an ESR
Bought second hand one year ago but according to serial code plaque
fabricated 11 years ago. My bread making Unold 8695 delivered good bread >> for more than one year now.
Beginning with last week begun not switching on immediately. One minute
delay became one hour today. Text on the small display is clearly dimmed. >> Last week reset itself twice along the program. Eventually being able to >> complete.
Producer amazingly has a spare rCLpower control boardrCY. But sales
ended in 2020 and part may be even older. I am not sure it would solve.
I was thinking it may be an old capacitor. But I am not very good at
electronics. Suggestions? Thanks for sharing.
meter?
What is the useful shelf life of electrolytic capacitors?
Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com> wrote:
Chuck <chuck23@dejanews.net> wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com
wrote:Probably one or more electrolytic capacitors. Do you have an ESR
Hello,
Bought second hand one year ago but according to serial code plaque
fabricated 11 years ago. My bread making Unold 8695 delivered good bread >>>> for more than one year now.
Beginning with last week begun not switching on immediately. One minute >>>> delay became one hour today. Text on the small display is clearly dimmed. >>>> Last week reset itself twice along the program. Eventually being able to >>>> complete.
Producer amazingly has a spare |o-C-Lpower control board|o-C-Y. But sales >>>> ended in 2020 and part may be even older. I am not sure it would solve. >>>>
I was thinking it may be an old capacitor. But I am not very good at
electronics. Suggestions? Thanks for sharing.
meter?
What is the useful shelf life of electrolytic capacitors?
Sorry this isn't more helpful but - it varies from manufacturer to manufacturer, from type to type and from application to application. Sometimes their working life is specified at certain temperatures, but
the relevant literature is not always available and shelf life is hardly
ever mentioned..
A capacitor that might last indefinitely as a decoupler in a pre-amp
could fail rapidly if it were in a power supply with high pulse
currents. Even if it started to fail, as a pre-amp decoupler it could degrade quite badly before any drop in performance would be noticed,
whereas, in other parts of the circuit, any leakage would result in
"noisy pots" or some other very obvious symptoms.
Furthermore, a manufacturer with a good reputation might have an
occasional dud batch or may be take over by bean-counters and start
producing 'value-engineered' rubbish without any visual change in the product. It would only be much later, when things began to go wrong,
that their reputation would be lost (and by then the bean-counters would
all be retired with fat pensions).
Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com> wrote:
Chuck <chuck23@dejanews.net> wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com >>>> wrote:
Hello,Probably one or more electrolytic capacitors. Do you have an ESR
Bought second hand one year ago but according to serial code plaque
fabricated 11 years ago. My bread making Unold 8695 delivered good bread >>>> for more than one year now.
Beginning with last week begun not switching on immediately. One minute >>>> delay became one hour today. Text on the small display is clearly dimmed.
Last week reset itself twice along the program. Eventually being able to >>>> complete.
Producer amazingly has a spare |o-C-Lpower control board|o-C-Y. But sales
ended in 2020 and part may be even older. I am not sure it would solve. >>>>
I was thinking it may be an old capacitor. But I am not very good at >>>> electronics. Suggestions? Thanks for sharing.
meter?
What is the useful shelf life of electrolytic capacitors?
Sorry this isn't more helpful but - it varies from manufacturer to manufacturer, from type to type and from application to application. Sometimes their working life is specified at certain temperatures, but
the relevant literature is not always available and shelf life is hardly ever mentioned..
A capacitor that might last indefinitely as a decoupler in a pre-amp
could fail rapidly if it were in a power supply with high pulse
currents. Even if it started to fail, as a pre-amp decoupler it could degrade quite badly before any drop in performance would be noticed, whereas, in other parts of the circuit, any leakage would result in
"noisy pots" or some other very obvious symptoms.
Furthermore, a manufacturer with a good reputation might have an
occasional dud batch or may be take over by bean-counters and start producing 'value-engineered' rubbish without any visual change in the product. It would only be much later, when things began to go wrong,
that their reputation would be lost (and by then the bean-counters would all be retired with fat pensions).
Well written and thanks.
Any hint from my previous posts about why I am experiencing described
faults? Delay at powering on expanded from a minute to an hour after only
two use cycles.
Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com> wrote:If you replace the capacitors, use 105C ones.
Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com> wrote:
Chuck <chuck23@dejanews.net> wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com
wrote:Probably one or more electrolytic capacitors. Do you have an ESR
Hello,
Bought second hand one year ago but according to serial code plaque
fabricated 11 years ago. My bread making Unold 8695 delivered good bread
for more than one year now.
Beginning with last week begun not switching on immediately. One minute >> >>>> delay became one hour today. Text on the small display is clearly dimmed.
Last week reset itself twice along the program. Eventually being able to
complete.
Producer amazingly has a spare |o-n-+power control board|o-n-?. But sales
ended in 2020 and part may be even older. I am not sure it would solve. >> >>>>
I was thinking it may be an old capacitor. But I am not very good at
electronics. Suggestions? Thanks for sharing.
meter?
What is the useful shelf life of electrolytic capacitors?
Sorry this isn't more helpful but - it varies from manufacturer to
manufacturer, from type to type and from application to application.
Sometimes their working life is specified at certain temperatures, but
the relevant literature is not always available and shelf life is hardly >> > ever mentioned..
A capacitor that might last indefinitely as a decoupler in a pre-amp
could fail rapidly if it were in a power supply with high pulse
currents. Even if it started to fail, as a pre-amp decoupler it could
degrade quite badly before any drop in performance would be noticed,
whereas, in other parts of the circuit, any leakage would result in
"noisy pots" or some other very obvious symptoms.
Furthermore, a manufacturer with a good reputation might have an
occasional dud batch or may be take over by bean-counters and start
producing 'value-engineered' rubbish without any visual change in the
product. It would only be much later, when things began to go wrong,
that their reputation would be lost (and by then the bean-counters would >> > all be retired with fat pensions).
Well written and thanks.
Any hint from my previous posts about why I am experiencing described
faults? Delay at powering on expanded from a minute to an hour after only
two use cycles.
I am not familiar with the product but that time-scale suggests
something like a memory battery or super-capacitor needing to charge up.
Does it have a memory battery?
If it hasn't got a battery, then a failed electrolytic capacitor would >definitely be my next suggestion.
Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com> wrote:
Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com> wrote:
Chuck <chuck23@dejanews.net> wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com >>>>>> wrote:
Hello,Probably one or more electrolytic capacitors. Do you have an ESR
Bought second hand one year ago but according to serial code plaque >>>>>> fabricated 11 years ago. My bread making Unold 8695 delivered good bread >>>>>> for more than one year now.
Beginning with last week begun not switching on immediately. One minute >>>>>> delay became one hour today. Text on the small display is clearly dimmed.
Last week reset itself twice along the program. Eventually being able to >>>>>> complete.
Producer amazingly has a spare |a-o|e-C|e-Lpower control board|a-o|e-C|e-Y. But sales
ended in 2020 and part may be even older. I am not sure it would solve. >>>>>>
I was thinking it may be an old capacitor. But I am not very good at >>>>>> electronics. Suggestions? Thanks for sharing.
meter?
What is the useful shelf life of electrolytic capacitors?
Sorry this isn't more helpful but - it varies from manufacturer to
manufacturer, from type to type and from application to application.
Sometimes their working life is specified at certain temperatures, but
the relevant literature is not always available and shelf life is hardly >>> ever mentioned..
A capacitor that might last indefinitely as a decoupler in a pre-amp
could fail rapidly if it were in a power supply with high pulse
currents. Even if it started to fail, as a pre-amp decoupler it could
degrade quite badly before any drop in performance would be noticed,
whereas, in other parts of the circuit, any leakage would result in
"noisy pots" or some other very obvious symptoms.
Furthermore, a manufacturer with a good reputation might have an
occasional dud batch or may be take over by bean-counters and start
producing 'value-engineered' rubbish without any visual change in the
product. It would only be much later, when things began to go wrong,
that their reputation would be lost (and by then the bean-counters would >>> all be retired with fat pensions).
Well written and thanks.
Any hint from my previous posts about why I am experiencing described
faults? Delay at powering on expanded from a minute to an hour after only
two use cycles.
I am not familiar with the product but that time-scale suggests
something like a memory battery or super-capacitor needing to charge up.
Does it have a memory battery?
If it hasn't got a battery, then a failed electrolytic capacitor would definitely be my next suggestion.
Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com> wrote:
Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com> wrote:
Chuck <chuck23@dejanews.net> wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:21:20 -0000 (UTC), Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com >>>>>> wrote:
Hello,Probably one or more electrolytic capacitors. Do you have an ESR
Bought second hand one year ago but according to serial code plaque >>>>>> fabricated 11 years ago. My bread making Unold 8695 delivered good >>>>>> bread for more than one year now.
Beginning with last week begun not switching on immediately. One >>>>>> minute delay became one hour today. Text on the small display is >>>>>> clearly dimmed. Last week reset itself twice along the program.
Eventually being able to complete.
Producer amazingly has a spare |a-o|e-C|e-Lpower control
board|a-o|e-C|e-Y. But sales ended in 2020 and part may be even
older. I am not sure it would solve.
I was thinking it may be an old capacitor. But I am not very good at >>>>>> electronics. Suggestions? Thanks for sharing.
meter?
What is the useful shelf life of electrolytic capacitors?
Sorry this isn't more helpful but - it varies from manufacturer to
manufacturer, from type to type and from application to application.
Sometimes their working life is specified at certain temperatures, but >>> the relevant literature is not always available and shelf life is hardly >>> ever mentioned..
A capacitor that might last indefinitely as a decoupler in a pre-amp
could fail rapidly if it were in a power supply with high pulse
currents. Even if it started to fail, as a pre-amp decoupler it could >>> degrade quite badly before any drop in performance would be noticed,
whereas, in other parts of the circuit, any leakage would result in
"noisy pots" or some other very obvious symptoms.
Furthermore, a manufacturer with a good reputation might have an
occasional dud batch or may be take over by bean-counters and start
producing 'value-engineered' rubbish without any visual change in the
product. It would only be much later, when things began to go wrong,
that their reputation would be lost (and by then the bean-counters would >>> all be retired with fat pensions).
Well written and thanks.
Any hint from my previous posts about why I am experiencing described
faults? Delay at powering on expanded from a minute to an hour after only >> two use cycles.
I am not familiar with the product but that time-scale suggests
something like a memory battery or super-capacitor needing to charge up. Does it have a memory battery?
If it hasn't got a battery, then a failed electrolytic capacitor would definitely be my next suggestion.
It does have a memory battery to store custom program settings. To my surprise it didnrCOt fail so my settings were retained. What changed instead is the power up - not instantaneous anymore - the text on the small
segmented display - faint after switching on, less so later - and
occasional resets along the program - happened twice the same day but not
the next day when power up was much earlier than program start.
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