• one for the dummy bin

    From legg@legg@nospam.magma.ca to sci.electronics.repair on Sat Aug 8 15:41:49 2026
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    A 3K9 1/4 watt resistor measures short cct.

    Usual question:

    Was it the last part de-soldered from the board?

    It wasn't just the last, it was the last that could possibly
    BE desoldered from the faulty node.

    I save these little miracles for some future gremlin exploit.
    Wonder, now, if that day will ever come . . . .

    RL
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to sci.electronics.repair on Sat Aug 8 15:45:02 2026
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    On Sat, 08 Aug 2026 15:41:49 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

    A 3K9 1/4 watt resistor measures short cct.

    Usual question:

    Was it the last part de-soldered from the board?

    It wasn't just the last, it was the last that could possibly
    BE desoldered from the faulty node.

    I save these little miracles for some future gremlin exploit.
    Wonder, now, if that day will ever come . . . .

    RL

    Shorted MLCC (multi-layer ceramic capacitors) are more fun. If
    overheated, they tend to short circuit. If unevenly heated, they
    crack and become either an open, short or intermittent circuit. If DC
    is applied, they become a varactor. If I yell at the PCB, it becomes
    a microphone.

    I don't believe in miracles, but I won't complain when a miracle
    solves my problem.

    In my limited experience, SMD resistors can either become a short or
    an open circuit, depending on the phase of the moon (waxing or
    waning).
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From legg@legg@nospam.magma.ca to sci.electronics.repair on Sun Aug 9 11:23:30 2026
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    On Sat, 08 Aug 2026 15:45:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 08 Aug 2026 15:41:49 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

    A 3K9 1/4 watt resistor measures short cct.

    Usual question:

    Was it the last part de-soldered from the board?

    It wasn't just the last, it was the last that could possibly
    BE desoldered from the faulty node.

    I save these little miracles for some future gremlin exploit.
    Wonder, now, if that day will ever come . . . .

    RL

    Shorted MLCC (multi-layer ceramic capacitors) are more fun. If
    overheated, they tend to short circuit. If unevenly heated, they
    crack and become either an open, short or intermittent circuit. If DC
    is applied, they become a varactor. If I yell at the PCB, it becomes
    a microphone.

    I don't believe in miracles, but I won't complain when a miracle
    solves my problem.

    In my limited experience, SMD resistors can either become a short or
    an open circuit, depending on the phase of the moon (waxing or
    waning).

    Yeah, but an AXIAL 3K9 1/4W?

    I don't know how far down a troubleshooting tree that falls.

    I'm pretty sure it doesn't even show up, on mine.

    RL
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  • From Chuck@chuck23@dejanews.net to sci.electronics.repair on Sun Aug 9 11:05:45 2026
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    On Sun, 09 Aug 2026 11:23:30 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

    On Sat, 08 Aug 2026 15:45:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 08 Aug 2026 15:41:49 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

    A 3K9 1/4 watt resistor measures short cct.

    Usual question:

    Was it the last part de-soldered from the board?

    It wasn't just the last, it was the last that could possibly
    BE desoldered from the faulty node.

    I save these little miracles for some future gremlin exploit.
    Wonder, now, if that day will ever come . . . .

    RL

    Shorted MLCC (multi-layer ceramic capacitors) are more fun. If
    overheated, they tend to short circuit. If unevenly heated, they
    crack and become either an open, short or intermittent circuit. If DC
    is applied, they become a varactor. If I yell at the PCB, it becomes
    a microphone.

    I don't believe in miracles, but I won't complain when a miracle
    solves my problem.

    In my limited experience, SMD resistors can either become a short or
    an open circuit, depending on the phase of the moon (waxing or
    waning).

    Yeah, but an AXIAL 3K9 1/4W?

    I don't know how far down a troubleshooting tree that falls.

    I'm pretty sure it doesn't even show up, on mine.

    RL

    I was a tech for the largest consumer electronics chain in the U.S and
    then at high end audio video store. Next a maintenance engineer in a television studio. All together, 46 years servicing various
    electronics devices and I never saw a shorted axial resistor.
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to sci.electronics.repair on Sun Aug 9 09:54:44 2026
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    On Sun, 09 Aug 2026 11:23:30 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

    On Sat, 08 Aug 2026 15:45:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 08 Aug 2026 15:41:49 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

    A 3K9 1/4 watt resistor measures short cct.

    Usual question:

    Was it the last part de-soldered from the board?

    It wasn't just the last, it was the last that could possibly
    BE desoldered from the faulty node.

    I save these little miracles for some future gremlin exploit.
    Wonder, now, if that day will ever come . . . .

    RL

    Shorted MLCC (multi-layer ceramic capacitors) are more fun. If
    overheated, they tend to short circuit. If unevenly heated, they
    crack and become either an open, short or intermittent circuit. If DC
    is applied, they become a varactor. If I yell at the PCB, it becomes
    a microphone.

    I don't believe in miracles, but I won't complain when a miracle
    solves my problem.

    In my limited experience, SMD resistors can either become a short or
    an open circuit, depending on the phase of the moon (waxing or
    waning).

    Yeah, but an AXIAL 3K9 1/4W?

    Carbon film? Carbon comp? Metal film? Wirewound?
    Metal oxide? 2H pencil? etc

    I've seen really strange resistor failures, but none that I can recall
    were shorted. Usually, something causes the resistor to become hot
    which eventually produces an open circuit. Very rare, methinks. The
    only "shorts" I've seen were with mismarked (color coded) resistors.

    I don't know how far down a troubleshooting tree that falls.

    I perform troubleshooting by shooting the guy who's giving me trouble.
    Hanging him from a tree might work, but having him fall from a great
    height might be equally effective. How far or how high? I don't
    know.

    I'm pretty sure it doesn't even show up, on mine.

    Do you really have a hanging (or falling) tree? Very convenient for
    disposing of troublesome individuals.

    RL
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@jeroen@nospam.please to sci.electronics.repair on Sun Aug 9 19:31:07 2026
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    On 8/9/26 17:23, legg wrote:
    On Sat, 08 Aug 2026 15:45:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 08 Aug 2026 15:41:49 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

    A 3K9 1/4 watt resistor measures short cct.

    Usual question:

    Was it the last part de-soldered from the board?

    It wasn't just the last, it was the last that could possibly
    BE desoldered from the faulty node.

    I save these little miracles for some future gremlin exploit.
    Wonder, now, if that day will ever come . . . .

    RL

    Shorted MLCC (multi-layer ceramic capacitors) are more fun. If
    overheated, they tend to short circuit. If unevenly heated, they
    crack and become either an open, short or intermittent circuit. If DC
    is applied, they become a varactor. If I yell at the PCB, it becomes
    a microphone.

    I don't believe in miracles, but I won't complain when a miracle
    solves my problem.

    In my limited experience, SMD resistors can either become a short or
    an open circuit, depending on the phase of the moon (waxing or
    waning).

    Yeah, but an AXIAL 3K9 1/4W?

    I don't know how far down a troubleshooting tree that falls.

    I'm pretty sure it doesn't even show up, on mine.

    RL

    Mmmh. At one time, I had the surprise that the voltage setting
    feedback resistors around an LM317 regulator changed value by a
    large percentage. These were ordinary 1% 1/4W axial leaded metal
    film resistors. I never found out how or why this happened.

    The box was in a radioactive zone, but no other components were
    affected and resistors can handle radiation much better than
    semiconductors anyway.

    Jeroen Belleman
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