• OT: Artemis II network TV coverage

    From bitrex@user@example.net to sci.electronics.design on Wed Apr 1 22:54:38 2026
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    Just the worst camerawork/editing I think I've ever seen on a space
    launch! Total amateur hour.

    Booster cam glitches out, launch pad camera doesn't pan up, rocket out
    of frame, wobbly, zoomed too close or too far, digital artifacts,
    several pointless cuts in the span of a few seconds, then they cut to
    the crowd right at SRB sep.

    The broadcast footage of STS-1 in 1981 was way better. Even Apollo 11
    was way better..

    'Integrity' is a terrible name for a ship but though the rocket will
    never look as sci-fi cool as the Shuttle it's not entirely unattractive,
    in kind of a chunky, orange sort of way.
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  • From Don Y@blockedofcourse@foo.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Thu Apr 2 00:36:24 2026
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    On 4/1/2026 7:54 PM, bitrex wrote:
    Just the worst camerawork/editing I think I've ever seen on a space launch! Total amateur hour.

    Booster cam glitches out, launch pad camera doesn't pan up, rocket out of frame, wobbly, zoomed too close or too far, digital artifacts, several pointless cuts in the span of a few seconds, then they cut to the crowd right
    at SRB sep.

    They'll clean it up in post -- in preparation for the sequel!

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  • From Martin Brown@'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk to sci.electronics.design on Thu Apr 2 10:22:55 2026
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    On 02/04/2026 03:54, bitrex wrote:
    Just the worst camerawork/editing I think I've ever seen on a space
    launch! Total amateur hour.

    The cameramen are a bit out of practice at doing it.

    I agree that one of the high magnification colour cameras appeared to be mounted on a jelly and tracked by hand! The later stages were much better.

    Booster cam glitches out, launch pad camera doesn't pan up, rocket out
    of frame, wobbly, zoomed too close or too far, digital artifacts,
    several pointless cuts in the span of a few seconds, then they cut to
    the crowd right at SRB sep.

    The launch pad camera probably didn't survive the engine blast. Shame
    that they cut away to the crowd view just when it got interesting.

    You only get one go in realtime and that much power from the rocket
    engines can cause things like connectors to work loose from vibration.

    We stayed up to watch it broadcast live on the BBC news channel
    (streaming the NASA TV feed). I bet send their own team next time.

    The broadcast footage of STS-1 in 1981 was way better. Even Apollo 11
    was way better..

    Remember that the early Apollo missions allowed them to practice before
    the big missions. This was something of a big bang moment the equivalent
    of going in at Apollo 8 with all the glare of publicity.

    I look forward to seeing another Earth rise photo/video although it will
    never surpass the original Apollo 8 mission image (what an Xmas present!).

    Still it *was* a very successful launch and they are on their way. Not
    sure that going to the moon with a manned mission is really worth it
    apart from the opportunity to rub the deniers noses in it when they
    bring back a couple of artefacts from an earlier Apollo mission.

    ISTR Hasselblad offered a reward for bring back one of their cameras
    from the lunar surface back in the day. I wonder what condition they
    will be in after 50 years of hard UV and micrometeorites?

    'Integrity' is a terrible name for a ship but though the rocket will
    never look as sci-fi cool as the Shuttle it's not entirely unattractive,
    in kind of a chunky, orange sort of way.

    It looked red rusty to me like it had been part dipped in seawater and
    left to rust, but I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
    --
    Martin Brown

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Niocl=C3=A1s_P=C3=B3l_Caile=C3=A1n?= de Ghloucester@thanks-to@Taf.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Apr 2 09:53:32 2026
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    I do not know why at some seconds a TV station showed what looked to
    me like a computer simulation of a green rocket (after showing a red
    rocket launch!) flying almost horizontally across a TV set.
    (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Apr 2 08:12:44 2026
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    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 22:54:38 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    Just the worst camerawork/editing I think I've ever seen on a space
    launch! Total amateur hour.

    Booster cam glitches out, launch pad camera doesn't pan up, rocket out
    of frame, wobbly, zoomed too close or too far, digital artifacts,
    several pointless cuts in the span of a few seconds, then they cut to
    the crowd right at SRB sep.

    The broadcast footage of STS-1 in 1981 was way better. Even Apollo 11
    was way better..

    'Integrity' is a terrible name for a ship but though the rocket will
    never look as sci-fi cool as the Shuttle it's not entirely unattractive,
    in kind of a chunky, orange sort of way.

    The mission is absurd. NASA is just a money-burning bureaucracy.




    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Thu Apr 2 16:17:35 2026
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    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 22:54:38 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    Just the worst camerawork/editing I think I've ever seen on a space >>launch! Total amateur hour.

    Booster cam glitches out, launch pad camera doesn't pan up, rocket out
    of frame, wobbly, zoomed too close or too far, digital artifacts,
    several pointless cuts in the span of a few seconds, then they cut to
    the crowd right at SRB sep.

    The broadcast footage of STS-1 in 1981 was way better. Even Apollo 11
    was way better..

    'Integrity' is a terrible name for a ship but though the rocket will
    never look as sci-fi cool as the Shuttle it's not entirely unattractive, >>in kind of a chunky, orange sort of way.

    The mission is absurd. NASA is just a money-burning bureaucracy.


    Just wrote this to alt.politics.trump:
    Future? President Trump to be first human on Mars
    After noting he will be killed once he personally enlist to fight Iran, President trump orders NASA to carry his remains on the next Mars rover
    and then bury it in a small golden coffin so as to be the first Human on Mars


    Anyways
    soon we will see the anti-graffiti drive,..
    no more rockets, or maybe nuclear propulsion,
    long ago NASA did experiments with that.
    As to cameras, sure, when the moon landings happened I was in the TV head control room here relaying it to the people.
    Nothing new...
    Just stay cool and concentrated, no errors allowed..
    All BW coming from the moon back then.
    Indeed disruptions in digital networks can give huge artefacts.
    OTOH I did see it start now on BBC and it looked impressive, big.

    Humans are only at the beginning of space exploration, just a few thousand years from the stone-age..
    Things evolve, exponentially in time?

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  • From Ross Finlayson@ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Apr 2 09:24:33 2026
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    On 04/02/2026 09:17 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 22:54:38 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    Just the worst camerawork/editing I think I've ever seen on a space
    launch! Total amateur hour.

    Booster cam glitches out, launch pad camera doesn't pan up, rocket out
    of frame, wobbly, zoomed too close or too far, digital artifacts,
    several pointless cuts in the span of a few seconds, then they cut to
    the crowd right at SRB sep.

    The broadcast footage of STS-1 in 1981 was way better. Even Apollo 11
    was way better..

    'Integrity' is a terrible name for a ship but though the rocket will
    never look as sci-fi cool as the Shuttle it's not entirely unattractive, >>> in kind of a chunky, orange sort of way.

    The mission is absurd. NASA is just a money-burning bureaucracy.


    Just wrote this to alt.politics.trump:
    Future? President Trump to be first human on Mars
    After noting he will be killed once he personally enlist to fight Iran, President trump orders NASA to carry his remains on the next Mars rover
    and then bury it in a small golden coffin so as to be the first Human on Mars


    Anyways
    soon we will see the anti-graffiti drive,..
    no more rockets, or maybe nuclear propulsion,
    long ago NASA did experiments with that.
    As to cameras, sure, when the moon landings happened I was in the TV head control room here relaying it to the people.
    Nothing new...
    Just stay cool and concentrated, no errors allowed..
    All BW coming from the moon back then.
    Indeed disruptions in digital networks can give huge artefacts.
    OTOH I did see it start now on BBC and it looked impressive, big.

    Humans are only at the beginning of space exploration, just a few thousand years from the stone-age..
    Things evolve, exponentially in time?


    Shouldn't it mostly be pictures/video of the Moon?


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Niocl=C3=A1s_P=C3=B3l_Caile=C3=A1n?= de Ghloucester@thanks-to@Taf.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Apr 2 17:02:40 2026
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    Sorry. This mission is not absurd. Survivals which are not on Earth
    are needed to avoid extinction.
    (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Niocl=C3=A1s_P=C3=B3l_Caile=C3=A1n?= de Ghloucester@thanks-to@Taf.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Apr 2 18:05:42 2026
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    Many of the newsgroups that focus on space have no article dated this
    month about this mission! Exceptions are alt.culture.outerspace and
    sci.astro and sci.space.policy
    (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
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  • From Ross Finlayson@ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Apr 2 11:26:01 2026
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    On 04/02/2026 10:02 AM, Nioclbs P<l Cailebn de Ghloucester wrote:
    Sorry. This mission is not absurd. Survivals which are not on Earth
    are needed to avoid extinction.
    (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)


    Actually, the usual plan is "Save the Earth".

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  • From Buzz McCool@buzz_mccool@yahoo.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Apr 2 11:34:33 2026
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    On 4/2/2026 8:12 AM, john larkin wrote:
    The mission is absurd. NASA is just a money-burning bureaucracy.

    Take it easy, that's my meal-ticket you're talking about.
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Apr 2 12:13:00 2026
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    On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 11:34:33 -0700, Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 4/2/2026 8:12 AM, john larkin wrote:
    The mission is absurd. NASA is just a money-burning bureaucracy.

    Take it easy, that's my meal-ticket you're talking about.

    NASA should do more aeronautics and more real science.

    People are too expensive and too fragile to send to "explore space."


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Niocl=C3=A1s_P=C3=B3l_Caile=C3=A1n?= de Ghloucester@thanks-to@Taf.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Apr 2 19:37:36 2026
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    Save the Earth and live elsewhere too.
    (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
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  • From bitrex@user@example.net to sci.electronics.design on Thu Apr 2 16:10:51 2026
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    On 4/2/2026 5:22 AM, Martin Brown wrote:

    Still it *was* a very successful launch and they are on their way. Not
    sure that going to the moon with a manned mission is really worth it
    apart from the opportunity to rub the deniers noses in it when they
    bring back a couple of artefacts from an earlier Apollo mission.

    ISTR Hasselblad offered a reward for bring back one of their cameras
    from the lunar surface back in the day. I wonder what condition they
    will be in after 50 years of hard UV and micrometeorites?


    Nothing will ever convince the conspiracy-fucked, fugedaboutit.

    'Integrity' is a terrible name for a ship but though the rocket will
    never look as sci-fi cool as the Shuttle it's not entirely
    unattractive, in kind of a chunky, orange sort of way.

    It looked red rusty to me like it had been part dipped in seawater and
    left to rust, but I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    I guess the foam is just that color "naturally", they painted the
    Shuttle external tanks for the first few missions then stopped bothering
    in favor of saving a bit of weight. I read that the age of the oldest
    part on Artemis II is circa 1982.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Fri Apr 3 07:44:38 2026
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    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 11:34:33 -0700, Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> >wrote:

    On 4/2/2026 8:12 AM, john larkin wrote:
    The mission is absurd. NASA is just a money-burning bureaucracy.

    Take it easy, that's my meal-ticket you're talking about.

    NASA should do more aeronautics and more real science.

    People are too expensive and too fragile to send to "explore space."

    No US sends people into wars every day to steal and rob . to get killed..


    Like somebody else already mentioned:
    We need a place to go when life here becomes impossible, meteorites, climate change, nuclear disasters, wars, viruses, what not.


    This one is a bit of a show mission, a white man a black man and a women...

    Moon is a good place perhaps for a simple spacecraft to take of from, to go and look for some satellites of planets in our solar system that may be habitable.
    Or further away!
    Personally I think:
    modify a space rock -put some propulsion system on it- and use that as spacecraft, raise families there, grow plants there,
    trip may take thousands of years...

    Alternative is: send DNA and seeds and some supporting stuff so things / life can grow there, maybe before you go.

    When looking in the future: 'beam them up', 'replicator' is my favorite tool for pizzas.


    In those old moon landing times getting live video (small step for man, big step for mankind) was a very complex thing.
    Even when the US - that had the NTSC system - could show people,
    the signal had to be converted to the European PAL system and to the SECAM system for France.
    TV system conversion was done in the UK, then forwarded to the rest of Europe. Although we later had an (optical IIRC) converter here, had to fix it once...
    I those day video recorders where big complicated things, as were cameras.

    Now every youtube poster has it all..

    Time flies, relativity?
    LOL

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  • From Martin Brown@'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk to sci.electronics.design on Fri Apr 3 13:34:13 2026
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    On 02/04/2026 10:53, Niocl|is P||l Caile|in de Ghloucester wrote:
    I do not know why at some seconds a TV station showed what looked to
    me like a computer simulation of a green rocket (after showing a red
    rocket launch!) flying almost horizontally across a TV set.
    (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

    It was April 1st!
    It looked to me like some wag had spliced in a bit of Thunderbirds...
    --
    Martin Brown

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  • From someone@cffbf4deb9142bce48974efc0e64dede@example.com to sci.electronics.design on Fri Apr 3 16:45:02 2026
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    NASA has its hand in about 10,000+ (figurative) different applications. They accomplish quite a lot considering their budget and the size of their workforce. The moon launch is a minuscule part of everything they do.
    Manned missions are a waste of money. There's nothing they do that can't be done robotically. Quantum teleportation has a better chance of facilitating exploration of deep space than anything mankind can do. And that's a zero percent chance of happening any time soon.
    --
    For full context, visit https://www.electrondepot.com/electrodesign/ot-artemis-ii-network-tv-coverage-4400278-.htm

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Niocl=C3=A1s_P=C3=B3l_Caile=C3=A1n?= de Ghloucester@thanks-to@Taf.com to sci.electronics.design on Fri Apr 3 17:11:25 2026
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    Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
    |"It looked to me like some wag had spliced in a bit of Thunderbirds..."| |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|

    It did look like "Thunderbirds"! :)
    However it is certainly not from (original) "Thunderbirds", but maybe
    there is a new computer "Thunderbirds" (like "Noddy"; "Fireman Sam";
    and "Red Dwarf").
    (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!
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  • From Martin Brown@'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk to sci.electronics.design on Sat Apr 4 17:13:02 2026
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    On 03/04/2026 18:11, Niocl|is P||l Caile|in de Ghloucester wrote:
    Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| |"It looked to me like some wag had spliced in a bit of Thunderbirds..."| |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|

    It did look like "Thunderbirds"! :)
    However it is certainly not from (original) "Thunderbirds", but maybe
    there is a new computer "Thunderbirds" (like "Noddy"; "Fireman Sam";
    and "Red Dwarf").
    (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!

    There are a couple of new Thunderbirds. One is the old series with the
    strings digitally removed by pre AI image processing (it doesn't look
    right), and the other are computer graphics avatars (50th anniversary
    edition in 2015). Comparison of features here:

    https://www.tumblr.com/countessofsnark/121815793771/thunderbirds-appearance-comparison-virgil-tracy

    The green rocket could have come straight out of the recent series.

    The old ones had distinctive Jetex engines in the rocket drives.
    --
    Martin Brown

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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Apr 4 18:18:33 2026
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    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 22:54:38 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    Just the worst camerawork/editing I think I've ever seen on a space
    launch! Total amateur hour.

    Booster cam glitches out, launch pad camera doesn't pan up, rocket out
    of frame, wobbly, zoomed too close or too far, digital artifacts,
    several pointless cuts in the span of a few seconds, then they cut to
    the crowd right at SRB sep.

    The broadcast footage of STS-1 in 1981 was way better. Even Apollo 11
    was way better..

    'Integrity' is a terrible name for a ship but though the rocket will
    never look as sci-fi cool as the Shuttle it's not entirely unattractive,
    in kind of a chunky, orange sort of way.

    https://lite.cnn.com/2026/04/04/science/artemis-2-toilet-malfunction

    Robotic space probes don't have that problem.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Sun Apr 5 07:40:42 2026
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    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 22:54:38 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    Just the worst camerawork/editing I think I've ever seen on a space >>launch! Total amateur hour.

    Booster cam glitches out, launch pad camera doesn't pan up, rocket out
    of frame, wobbly, zoomed too close or too far, digital artifacts,
    several pointless cuts in the span of a few seconds, then they cut to
    the crowd right at SRB sep.

    The broadcast footage of STS-1 in 1981 was way better. Even Apollo 11
    was way better..

    'Integrity' is a terrible name for a ship but though the rocket will
    never look as sci-fi cool as the Shuttle it's not entirely unattractive, >>in kind of a chunky, orange sort of way.

    https://lite.cnn.com/2026/04/04/science/artemis-2-toilet-malfunction

    Robotic space probes don't have that problem.

    Left out some heating
    You would think agfert all those yoears they should havea clue

    What a crap !

    NASA -------

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