I have to create some technical documents which will require lots of
diagrams. I've always used LaTeX for this kind of work (are the newer simpler markup tools up to the job?).
I've used Xfig a lot in the past to create diagrams but am looking
about to see if there are better options.
I've seen lpe which looks to be quite good (especially when the
diagram will contain text) - does anyone use this?
Now that affinity is free perhaps that would be a good option (their
vector studio - formerly "designer") for text free diagrams. Maybe
the learning curve is to steep.
Anyone who suggests word will have a spell cast upon them..
I have to create some technical documents which will require lots of diagrams. I've always used LaTeX for this kind of work (are the newer simpler markup tools up to the job?).
I've used Xfig a lot in the past to create diagrams but am looking
about to see if there are better options.
I've seen lpe which looks to be quite good (especially when the
diagram will contain text) - does anyone use this?
Now that affinity is free perhaps that would be a good option (their
vector studio - formerly "designer") for text free diagrams. Maybe
the learning curve is to steep.
Anyone who suggests word will have a spell cast upon them..
I have to create some technical documents which will require lots of >diagrams. I've always used LaTeX for this kind of work (are the newer >simpler markup tools up to the job?).
I've used Xfig a lot in the past to create diagrams but am looking
about to see if there are better options.
I've seen lpe which looks to be quite good (especially when the
diagram will contain text) - does anyone use this?
Now that affinity is free perhaps that would be a good option (their
vector studio - formerly "designer") for text free diagrams. Maybe
the learning curve is to steep.
Anyone who suggests word will have a spell cast upon them..
On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 19:48:12 +0100, JM
<sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote:
I have to create some technical documents which will require lots of >>diagrams. I've always used LaTeX for this kind of work (are the newer >>simpler markup tools up to the job?).
I've used Xfig a lot in the past to create diagrams but am looking
about to see if there are better options.
I've seen lpe which looks to be quite good (especially when the
diagram will contain text) - does anyone use this?
Now that affinity is free perhaps that would be a good option (their
vector studio - formerly "designer") for text free diagrams. Maybe
the learning curve is to steep.
Anyone who suggests word will have a spell cast upon them..
Use Word! You can drag-and-drop pics into a document. And export a
PDF.
"john larkin" <jl@htigct.com> wrote in message news:jj9s7ll3fnd76mdg5cnn4vc6t4s0qna0mu@4ax.com...
On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 19:48:12 +0100, JM
<sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote:
I have to create some technical documents which will require lots of >>>diagrams. I've always used LaTeX for this kind of work (are the newer >>>simpler markup tools up to the job?).
I've used Xfig a lot in the past to create diagrams but am looking
about to see if there are better options.
I've seen lpe which looks to be quite good (especially when the
diagram will contain text) - does anyone use this?
Now that affinity is free perhaps that would be a good option (their >>>vector studio - formerly "designer") for text free diagrams. Maybe
the learning curve is to steep.
Anyone who suggests word will have a spell cast upon them..
Use Word! You can drag-and-drop pics into a document. And export a
PDF.
I sometimes draw on paper and scan it.
Then I don't have to fight the computer for exactly how I want it drawn.
I have to create some technical documents which will require lots of diagrams. I've always used LaTeX for this kind of work (are the newer simpler markup tools up to the job?).
I've used Xfig a lot in the past to create diagrams but am looking
about to see if there are better options.
I've seen lpe which looks to be quite good (especially when the
diagram will contain text) - does anyone use this?
Now that affinity is free perhaps that would be a good option (their
vector studio - formerly "designer") for text free diagrams. Maybe
the learning curve is to steep.
Anyone who suggests word will have a spell cast upon them..
On 8/13/2026 11:48 AM, JM wrote:
I have to create some technical documents which will require lots of
diagrams. I've always used LaTeX for this kind of work (are the newer
simpler markup tools up to the job?).
I've used Xfig a lot in the past to create diagrams but am looking
about to see if there are better options.
I've seen lpe which looks to be quite good (especially when the
diagram will contain text) - does anyone use this?
Now that affinity is free perhaps that would be a good option (their
vector studio - formerly "designer") for text free diagrams. Maybe
the learning curve is to steep.
Anyone who suggests word will have a spell cast upon them..
A lot depends on how complex the diagrams will be and how much
you will need to tweak your work while creating them.
E.g., ideally, you want to build a diagram out of "drawing objects"
and not just "FLATTENED marks on paper". The former allows you to
process those objects even after they have been placed (e.g., to
move them, resize them, change color/typeface, etc.) The latter
is like using a whiteboard -- tomake a change, you have to carefully
erase the old (while not disturbing anything that was drawn over or
under it!) and redrawing anew.
Where possible, I like to rely on photographs that I can annotate
with callouts, highlights, etc. (easier to get things right!). In
the past, when getting photographs wasn't convenient, I would build
3D models of the object in question and manipulate it virtually
(e.g., with a motion controller).
If the thing being drawn is a physical device, I like to use CAD as it
lets me define relationships between the various parts of the drawing
in "real units" instead of eyeballing things (e.g., "this part is
10" long and it connects to a 7" long member at a 60 degree angle"
is a lot easier to get right than trying to do that freehand). One
of the first things I do in any place I've lived is make a detailed
floorplan -- easy with a ruler and CAD! For a freestanding device,
SfM gies you a quickie way to build a 3D model that is likely good
enough for illustration (and has the added benefit of being rendered >photorealistically!)
For certain *types* of drawings, you can find tools that are
designed with those concerns in mind. E.g., when I am documenting
state machines, I need to move things such that connections are
maintained (rubber-banding).
For graphs and other content that is mathematically defined, I use
tools that will render those relationships *for* me.
Having said these things, I use:
- Adobe Illustrator
- CorelDesigner
- Adobe Photoshop
- Corel PHOTO-PAINT
- gnuplot
- Mathematica
- FontLab (to create "fonts")
- Metashape (SfM)
Note all of these predate cloud hosting. I have no idea what's available
in current offerings.
Consider, also, addressing annotations "above" the notion of the illustration >(i.e., in the publishing tool). This lets you map the typeface to that
used in the rest of the document, better (I've embedded Mathematic charts
in publications and the difference in "fonts" stands out noticeably.)
It also lets you scale and translate the drawing without also affecting--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
the annotations that may be *in* the drawing.
JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote:
I have to create some technical documents which will require lots of
diagrams. I've always used LaTeX for this kind of work (are the newer
simpler markup tools up to the job?).
I've used Xfig a lot in the past to create diagrams but am looking
about to see if there are better options.
I've seen lpe which looks to be quite good (especially when the
diagram will contain text) - does anyone use this?
Now that affinity is free perhaps that would be a good option (their
vector studio - formerly "designer") for text free diagrams. Maybe
the learning curve is to steep.
Anyone who suggests word will have a spell cast upon them..
Do you want diagrams as 'code' or draw them in a GUI?
For the 'code' approach, TikZ is popular these days. You may find an addon >package that draws just the kind of diagram you want, in which case it
should be easy to get 'something', and harder to get exactly what you want
(just like Latex really). If you have a lot of diagrams of a similar type >this might be the way to go, but if you need to hand edit them it can get a >bit annoying. eg CircuiTikZ is a package for drawing schematics.
There are tools which let you edit the source code on one side and >continually recompile it so you can see the output on the other side - eg >this is a web app:
https://tikzmaker.com/
Overleaf is a similar idea for whole documents.
For the 'drawing' approach, I've used Inkscape and have it emit PDFs which >you can \includegraphics. It's free and open source. It uses SVG natively >and I think some versions of Latex can import SVG, but PDF is less finnicky. >It works similarly to Adobe Illustrator and other vector drawing packages.
There's some tools which will emit both a diagram file and a Latex file with >the text. These are nice in that the text is in a matching font and size to >your body text. I think matplotlib / PGFPlots does that, but that's more
for graphs than arbitrary figures. I'm sure I came across a flow for doing >that for general drawings, but I can't remember where it was.
Theo--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
Use Word! You can drag-and-drop pics into a document. And export a
PDF.
I used affinity not long ago to edit a product label for a local company.
It wasn't too hard to get it to do what I wanted but I didn't have to
create a new complex diagram from scratch.
On 13 Aug 2026 23:47:01 +0100 (BST), Theo
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote:
I have to create some technical documents which will require lots of
diagrams. I've always used LaTeX for this kind of work (are the newer
simpler markup tools up to the job?).
I've used Xfig a lot in the past to create diagrams but am looking
about to see if there are better options.
I've seen lpe which looks to be quite good (especially when the
diagram will contain text) - does anyone use this?
Now that affinity is free perhaps that would be a good option (their
vector studio - formerly "designer") for text free diagrams. Maybe
the learning curve is to steep.
Anyone who suggests word will have a spell cast upon them..
Do you want diagrams as 'code' or draw them in a GUI?
I would like to draw them.
For the 'code' approach, TikZ is popular these days. You may find an addon >> package that draws just the kind of diagram you want, in which case it
should be easy to get 'something', and harder to get exactly what you want
Yes, I see that TikZ has (as I understand it) taken over from PicTeX
and PStricks. I have been browsing CTAN and don't recognise 99% of
the packages - but it's good that LaTeX is still so popular.
(just like Latex really). If you have a lot of diagrams of a similar type >> this might be the way to go, but if you need to hand edit them it can get a >> bit annoying. eg CircuiTikZ is a package for drawing schematics.
There are tools which let you edit the source code on one side and
continually recompile it so you can see the output on the other side - eg
this is a web app:
https://tikzmaker.com/
Overleaf is a similar idea for whole documents.
For the 'drawing' approach, I've used Inkscape and have it emit PDFs which >> you can \includegraphics. It's free and open source. It uses SVG natively >> and I think some versions of Latex can import SVG, but PDF is less finnicky. >> It works similarly to Adobe Illustrator and other vector drawing packages. >>
There's some tools which will emit both a diagram file and a Latex file with >> the text. These are nice in that the text is in a matching font and size to >> your body text. I think matplotlib / PGFPlots does that, but that's more
for graphs than arbitrary figures. I'm sure I came across a flow for doing >> that for general drawings, but I can't remember where it was.
Thanks for the Inkscape pointer, I see that it has a PDF+latex save
option, which does exactly what you describe, and is the sort of thing
I was after.
There's a short demo of it in this youtube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXBmq2M4ii0
Last time I tried Inkscape it was very buggy (but that was on windows)
but I'll give it another go.
Theo
A lot depends on how complex the diagrams will be and how much
you will need to tweak your work while creating them.
E.g., ideally, you want to build a diagram out of "drawing objects"
and not just "FLATTENED marks on paper". The former allows you to
process those objects even after they have been placed (e.g., to
move them, resize them, change color/typeface, etc.) The latter
is like using a whiteboard -- tomake a change, you have to carefully
erase the old (while not disturbing anything that was drawn over or
under it!) and redrawing anew.
Absolutely, but I think all drawing software now works like that.
Where possible, I like to rely on photographs that I can annotate
with callouts, highlights, etc. (easier to get things right!). In
the past, when getting photographs wasn't convenient, I would build
3D models of the object in question and manipulate it virtually
(e.g., with a motion controller).
For certain *types* of drawings, you can find tools that are
designed with those concerns in mind. E.g., when I am documenting
state machines, I need to move things such that connections are
maintained (rubber-banding).
For graphs and other content that is mathematically defined, I use
tools that will render those relationships *for* me.
Having said these things, I use:
- Adobe Illustrator
- CorelDesigner
- Adobe Photoshop
- Corel PHOTO-PAINT
- gnuplot
- Mathematica
- FontLab (to create "fonts")
- Metashape (SfM)
If so, then you want to avoid making those annotations in theNote all of these predate cloud hosting. I have no idea what's available
in current offerings.
Consider, also, addressing annotations "above" the notion of the illustration
(i.e., in the publishing tool). This lets you map the typeface to that
used in the rest of the document, better (I've embedded Mathematic charts
in publications and the difference in "fonts" stands out noticeably.)
Yes, that's what I'm looking for. lpe does that, and I see the
inkscape can also do this.
Whenever I have tried to do something slightly unusual and triedKnowing what tools can do and their representations is a big
a variety of packages (that might be easier to use) I always ended up
using either inkscape or GIMP depending on whether it was a bitmapped
or vector requirement.
"JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message news:9e3s7lhh563jr745f26j5ul613ehps34nh@4ax.com...
I have to create some technical documents which will require lots of
diagrams. I've always used LaTeX for this kind of work (are the newer
simpler markup tools up to the job?).
I've used Xfig a lot in the past to create diagrams but am looking
about to see if there are better options.
I've seen lpe which looks to be quite good (especially when the
diagram will contain text) - does anyone use this?
Now that affinity is free perhaps that would be a good option (their
vector studio - formerly "designer") for text free diagrams. Maybe
the learning curve is to steep.
I used affinity not long ago to edit a product label for a local company.
It wasn't too hard to get it to do what I wanted but I didn't have to
create a new complex diagram from scratch.
Depending on the type of diagram you want there's also Visio which
is not officially free but I don't think Microsoft care any more as long
as you're not a big business user of many copies.
Anyone who suggests word will have a spell cast upon them..
On 8/13/26 20:07, Edward Rawde wrote:
"JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message news:9e3s7lhh563jr745f26j5ul613ehps34nh@4ax.com...
I have to create some technical documents which will require lots of
diagrams. I've always used LaTeX for this kind of work (are the newer
simpler markup tools up to the job?).
I've used Xfig a lot in the past to create diagrams but am looking
about to see if there are better options.
I've seen lpe which looks to be quite good (especially when the
diagram will contain text) - does anyone use this?
Now that affinity is free perhaps that would be a good option (their
vector studio - formerly "designer") for text free diagrams. Maybe
the learning curve is to steep.
I used affinity not long ago to edit a product label for a local company.
It wasn't too hard to get it to do what I wanted but I didn't have to
create a new complex diagram from scratch.
Depending on the type of diagram you want there's also Visio which
is not officially free but I don't think Microsoft care any more as long
as you're not a big business user of many copies.
Used Visio for some years, an older version from
Ebay. However, Libre Office, (from Cern, os
agnostic: linux, windows and more, has a good
drawing package which will import Visio and other
formats for re editing.
Small learning curve, but worth the effort.
Chris
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