• Re: Is this transitron =?UTF-8?B?cmVhbGx5Pw==?=

    From RodionGork@rodiongork@github.com to sci.electronics.basics on Thu May 1 06:18:32 2025
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    As a follow-up, I found few more circuits of the same type browsing old
    books and googling for "tube oscilloscope" and now I believe the author
    of the original description was really confused for supposedly this
    schematic is some variant of what is called "Phantastron". Still I hope
    to learn a bit more about it and perhaps research a bit more,
    practically.
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  • From RodionGork@rodiongork@github.com to sci.electronics.basics on Mon Apr 21 07:20:03 2025
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    While repairing some old oscilloscope I studied its schematic a bit to
    learn how they managed to build it just with 3 tubes (though one of them
    was double-triode). Here horizontal sweep (scan?) generator is a rough
    sawtooth using single pentode.

    https://imgur.com/a/r4uPTWR

    Here I "unwound" and redrawn it for clarity. I even recreated it (using different pentode - so resistances may not be finely tuned) and it
    works, with period roughly matching the order of R*C in the control grid
    part (on the left).

    Brief schematic description says it is "designed using transitron
    scheme". Well, looking at wiki:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynatron_oscillator#Transitron_oscillator

    I feel doubt as transitron should have screen grid (second) as the
    output, while control grid is not used actually.

    Here in turn it looks more like tube with fixed screen and suppressor
    grids is fixed to some kind of bi-stable which is driven up and down by
    R-C chain feedback from anode to control grid (somewhat similar to NE555
    or square generator using opamp / comparator).

    Could anyone please direct me to some detailed description of this
    approach and perhaps comment whether it is good to call it transitron schematic. I'm unsure as wiki says the idea was implemented in several
    forms by several people so what actually is called transitron - either
    the whole oscillator with LC part as shown in wiki - or just the tube
    with screen grid pulled up and linked via capacitor to suppressor grid
    and, supposedly, demonstrating negative resistance similar in form to
    that of lambda-diode.

    Thanks in advance!
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