• Chinese cryptography

    From Nomen Nescio@nomen@nescio.com to sci.crypt on Fri Aug 21 15:29:58 2026
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    https://niccs.org.cn/niccs/Notice/pc/content/content_1937429502295019520.html

    Fascinating that China has its own cipher suite. Do they not trust Western algorithms? All of which have been carefully scrutinized by some of the world's
    foremost experts and developed in the open.

    Or is this merely a "national pride" thing ("Yeah we Chinks can make crypto too").

    Me, I just use RC4 (dropping the first outputted 2048 bytes).

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  • From Ch1ffr3punk@ch1ffr3punk@gmail.com to sci.crypt on Fri Aug 21 16:19:45 2026
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    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    https://niccs.org.cn/niccs/Notice/pc/content/content_1937429502295019520.html

    Fascinating that China has its own cipher suite. Do they not trust Western algorithms? All of which have been carefully scrutinized by some of the world's
    foremost experts and developed in the open.

    Or is this merely a "national pride" thing ("Yeah we Chinks can make crypto too").

    Me, I just use RC4 (dropping the first outputted 2048 bytes).


    China and the Russian Federation have their own crypto and hashing algos,
    which btw. I use in yubisigner too, to be international.
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  • From Ch1ffr3punk@ch1ffr3punk@gmail.com to sci.crypt on Fri Aug 21 20:12:06 2026
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    Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 8/21/2026 9:19 AM, Ch1ffr3punk wrote:
    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    https://niccs.org.cn/niccs/Notice/pc/content/content_1937429502295019520.html

    Fascinating that China has its own cipher suite. Do they not trust Western
    algorithms? All of which have been carefully scrutinized by some of the world's
    foremost experts and developed in the open.

    Or is this merely a "national pride" thing ("Yeah we Chinks can make crypto too").

    Me, I just use RC4 (dropping the first outputted 2048 bytes).


    China and the Russian Federation have their own crypto and hashing algos, which btw. I use in yubisigner too, to be international.


    Oh how fun! ;^o

    Sure, a lot of fun, because in Eurasia we can use RIPEMD-256, SM3 and Streebog-256. And best of all, yubisigner detached ASCII signatures
    and it's included Comment: header, containing these hashes, can't be
    faked like Comment: headers in OpenPGP and bsd-signify software. :-P

    You can try that out by yourself, if you have a YubiKey:

    https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk/yubisigner
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  • From Chris M. Thomasson@chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com to sci.crypt on Sat Aug 22 14:01:07 2026
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    On 8/21/2026 1:12 PM, Ch1ffr3punk wrote:
    Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 8/21/2026 9:19 AM, Ch1ffr3punk wrote:
    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    https://niccs.org.cn/niccs/Notice/pc/content/content_1937429502295019520.html

    Fascinating that China has its own cipher suite. Do they not trust Western >>>> algorithms? All of which have been carefully scrutinized by some of the world's
    foremost experts and developed in the open.

    Or is this merely a "national pride" thing ("Yeah we Chinks can make crypto too").

    Me, I just use RC4 (dropping the first outputted 2048 bytes).


    China and the Russian Federation have their own crypto and hashing algos, >>> which btw. I use in yubisigner too, to be international.


    Oh how fun! ;^o

    Sure, a lot of fun, because in Eurasia we can use RIPEMD-256, SM3 and Streebog-256. And best of all, yubisigner detached ASCII signatures
    and it's included Comment: header, containing these hashes, can't be
    faked like Comment: headers in OpenPGP and bsd-signify software. :-P

    You can try that out by yourself, if you have a YubiKey:

    https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk/yubisigner


    You can use any hash you want. Password SHA512:

    https://fractallife247.com/test/hmac_cipher/drmoron/?ct_hmac_cipher=ea5baabd839aad690c07325fb1a1b58b823cffbf797e41fd6871b90153aafd62f84efb6a07f515470855547178f3d5052c5ef19b667e0a485b2494ce7acf9d082477e0c553c9aa4cb891cde866a477bb44ed88f7d1



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  • From Ch1ffr3punk@ch1ffr3punk@gmail.com to sci.crypt on Sun Aug 23 05:03:46 2026
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    Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 8/21/2026 1:12 PM, Ch1ffr3punk wrote:
    Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 8/21/2026 9:19 AM, Ch1ffr3punk wrote:
    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    https://niccs.org.cn/niccs/Notice/pc/content/content_1937429502295019520.html

    Fascinating that China has its own cipher suite. Do they not trust Western
    algorithms? All of which have been carefully scrutinized by some of the world's
    foremost experts and developed in the open.

    Or is this merely a "national pride" thing ("Yeah we Chinks can make crypto too").

    Me, I just use RC4 (dropping the first outputted 2048 bytes).


    China and the Russian Federation have their own crypto and hashing algos,
    which btw. I use in yubisigner too, to be international.


    Oh how fun! ;^o

    Sure, a lot of fun, because in Eurasia we can use RIPEMD-256, SM3 and Streebog-256. And best of all, yubisigner detached ASCII signatures
    and it's included Comment: header, containing these hashes, can't be
    faked like Comment: headers in OpenPGP and bsd-signify software. :-P

    You can try that out by yourself, if you have a YubiKey:
    https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk/yubisigner


    You can use any hash you want.

    When I used SHA256 for joking with the NSA, third-parties
    modified my GitHub repository's source code[1], hence I
    invented yubisigner...

    [1] https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk/hashwords
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  • From Ch1ffr3punk@ch1ffr3punk@gmail.com to sci.crypt on Sun Aug 23 11:14:48 2026
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    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    https://niccs.org.cn/niccs/Notice/pc/content/content_1937429502295019520.html

    Fascinating that China has its own cipher suite. Do they not trust Western algorithms? All of which have been carefully scrutinized by some of the world's
    foremost experts and developed in the open.

    Or is this merely a "national pride" thing ("Yeah we Chinks can make crypto too").

    Me, I just use RC4 (dropping the first outputted 2048 bytes).


    For my Chinese friends :-) :

    https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk/silkcode
    https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk/zuc
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  • From Ch1ffr3punk@ch1ffr3punk@gmail.com to sci.crypt on Sun Aug 23 21:41:16 2026
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    Ch1ffr3punk wrote:
    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    https://niccs.org.cn/niccs/Notice/pc/content/content_1937429502295019520.html

    Fascinating that China has its own cipher suite. Do they not trust Western algorithms? All of which have been carefully scrutinized by some of the world's
    foremost experts and developed in the open.

    Or is this merely a "national pride" thing ("Yeah we Chinks can make crypto too").

    Me, I just use RC4 (dropping the first outputted 2048 bytes).


    For my Chinese friends :-) :

    https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk/silkcode
    https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk/zuc


    China **is awesome** Today I have read about openKylin and installed
    it on my little and very cute GPD MicroPC. It runs nicely as English
    version. In the next couple of days I will be testing it with Rust /
    Golang and maybe also with old C tech, to see how flnews performs on
    it. :-)

    The Kylin OS family is widely used in China's Military and Business
    etc. And openKylin 3.0 will move over from C to Rust more and more!

    For me, as an Eurasian, this is all fantastic news from our Chinese
    friends, as the EU is not capable to deliver secure Open Source OSs
    or other modern Open Source technology (which I have to do myself.)

    https://www.openkylin.top/news/4065-en.html
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