In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may ask?
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email infrastruture, powered by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients communicate and where no smtp or nntp is used. This is handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
Step 1: Download the .zip folder for your platform
Step 1: Download the .zip folder for your platform
Don't download anything, this guy is a fraudster!
Stick to what you know.
Step 1: Download the .zip folder for your platformDon't download anything, this guy is a fraudster!
Stick to what you know.
Mr Anderson, a non-trustworthy U.S. agent wrote:
Step 1: Download the .zip folder for your platform
Don't download anything, this guy is a fraudster!
Says who? An american agent, who can't be trusted
by Eurasiens, Latin-Americans!
Stick to what you know.
Better not, as you don't know the working internals...!!!
BTW. It's always amusing how american Democrats try
to defend things which are outdated and are against
high-performance non-U.S. inventions, comming from
big Eurasia. Efye
Step 1: Download the .zip folder for your platform
Don't download anything, this guy is a fraudster!
Stick to what you know.
The only software you need is PGP and it's "freeware" and you
can get it here: https://www.gpg4win.org/download.html
Don't even use omnimix as you have to use Windows "spyware" OS.
Learn how to use cypherpunk remailers so that all you need is
an email account and pgp.
The first thing you need to do is check the stats of the remailer/s you want to use: alt.privacy.anon-server.stats
Here are today's stats but always check for updates...
From: Estragon <devnull@frell.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server.stats
Subject: Frelled Cpunk Post Stats #2 - 2026-03-31
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2026 10:24:01 +0000
Frelled Cypherpunk "Anon-Post-To: alt.test" Stats - 2026-03-31 http://echolot.theremailer.net/sideview/rlist2-post.html
Stats-Version: 2.0
Generated: Tue 31 Mar 2026 10:20:00 GMT
Cypherpunk Latent-Hist Latent Uptime-Hist Uptime Options ------------------------------------------------------------------------ dizum 0000100?2?00 :13 +++++++?+?++ 100.0% PR GO ATLEUIN0 frell 111111112111 :42 ++++++++++++ 100.0% PR GO ATLE IN9 frannie 221221222212 1:19 ++++++++++++ 100.0% DPR GO ATLE IN9 yeahno 22B553212222 1:27 ++++++++++++ 100.0% DPR GO ATLE IN paranoia 213231120341 1:30 ++++++++++++ 100.0% PR GO ATLE IN
Remailer-Capabilities:
$remailer{"dizum"} = "<remailer@dizum.com> cpunk max mix pgp pgponly repgp remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop5 reord post klen64";
$remailer{"frannie"} = "<mix@franxial.com> cpunk max mix middle pgp pgponly repgp remix esubbf hsub latent hash cut test ekx inflt50 rhop5 reord post klen1024";
$remailer{"frell"} = "<godot@remailer.frell.eu.org> cpunk max mix pgp pgponly repgp remix latent hash cut test ekx inflt50 rhop5 reord post klen1024";
$remailer{"paranoia"} = "<mixmaster@remailer.paranoici.org> cpunk max mix pgp pgponly repgp remix esubbf hsub latent hash cut test ekx inflt50 rhop5 reord post";
$remailer{"yeahno"} = "<mix@yeahno.net> cpunk max mix middle pgp pgponly repgp remix esubbf hsub latent hash cut test ekx inflt50 rhop5 reord post";
How To Send Anonymous Email / Posts Manually
Sending manually eliminates the need for software on your computer which could have a backdoor!
These are the fundamental instructions to understand how remailer
messages are created and this will help you to understand how remailers work.
If you want to send an anonymous message, first of all create a file containing:
- two colon signs ( :: ) in the first line,
- the phrase "Anon-To: e-mail address" in the second line
whereby the e-mail address should be the address the remailer will send the message to.
The third line should be empty and the message text will follow.
For Usenet posts you must use: Anon-Post-To: rec.sport.football.college or the target group.
For rec.arts.tv you would use: Anon-Post-To: rec.arts.tv and so on.
e.g.:
2 colons on the first line.
Anon-To: or Anon-Post-To: on second line.
One blank space line. (third line)
2 hash tags. (fourth line)
Subject: (fifth line)
One blank space line. (sixth line)
Start message on 7th line.
Type your message eg: ____________________________________________________________________________________
::
Anon-Post-To: rec.sport.football.college
##
Subject: Going To War (or whatever your subject is)
War is about to break out in...
(now encrypt above message with the remailer key of the remailer
you're sending it to and when ready to send it should look
something like below)
::
Encrypted: PGP
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
owE1jMsNwjAUBH3gZMk9PClnUoBPUANpwElW2OBPZD8H0gd1UCP2gduuNDNfj IcSHT4zCbQmtlbzGFM9T0jSD7QVvEzaPcUlBSSWHQclbnR9YWJNp5BFSLdR9s CijF3NGxybry/1Rsqn4la3a0JiIhLvnYGCu9HFtiC8oIxnlkeuIYe+EH=HgDa
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
=============================================================
::
Anon-To: add...@example.org
Write here your message =============================================================
Remailers only accept messages encrypted through PGP or GPG, so
your message must be encrypted with the remailer public key,
which you can get by sending a message to the remailer
<remailer@dizum.com> and by entering "remailer-key" in the
subject.
This page needs updating but worth a look...
<https://dizum.com/help/remailer.html>
Claas is an ass, stop trying to con people.
Anonymous wrote:
Claas is an ass, stop trying to con people.
Please explain! Should people really use PGP
the way you explain, on an online device, to
leave traces on an SSD? I think this is no
longer mandatory. If you really need to use
PGP then use NymMail, Nym Mailer on your
online device and encrypt offline and send
to a PGP supporting m2n.
Please explain! Should people really use PGP
the way you explain, on an online device, to
leave traces on an SSD?
Please explain! Should people really use PGP
the way you explain, on an online device, to
leave traces on an SSD?
No SSD problems here, I encrypt everything on an offline
computer using Linux on a USB stick to avoid client side
scanning.
Sounds good, and how do you send the encrypted payload?
Sounds good, and how do you send the encrypted payload?
I go to a Turkish Internet cafe!
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can >> > include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may ask?
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email infrastruture, powered >> by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients communicate and where no smtp or nntp is
used. This is handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
To avoid that, you can use for clear net email and Usenet communications, via >the Nym Mixnet, Nym Mailer, which requires a NymVPN subscription and dAPP beta >mode enabled.
https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk/NymMailer
https://nym.com
Regards
Stefan
In article <10qh19c$2cb07$2@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may ask?
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email infrastruture, powered
by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients communicate and where no smtp or nntp is
used. This is handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system
incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own island.
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own island.
You fail to understand!!! Modern Anonymity Systems no longer need outdated RFCs and MIME stuff!!! The server only handles MIME etc. for old fashioned classic email and Usenet postings, because NymMail nor Go needs such stuff, because NymMail email messages have UTF-8 support automatically build in,
so that it is also the reason, when you receive an anonymous NymMail email message that it no longer contains any headers, like From: Subject: MIME etc.
How cool is that? :-) I say it is super cool, becaue when you send email messages globally to people, regardless of their language, the email messages will always been displayed properly and you have anonymity, due to lack of RFC conform and outdated email headers. :-)
Anonymous wrote:
Claas is an ass, stop trying to con people.
Please explain! Should people really use PGP
the way you explain, on an online device, to
leave traces on an SSD? I think this is no
longer mandatory. If you really need to use
PGP then use NymMail, Nym Mailer on your
online device and encrypt offline and send
to a PGP supporting m2n.
Way too outdated, time consuming and too complicated, for the average
user and it leaves traces on your SSD, which is an absolutely no go in 2026.
Anonymous wrote:
Sounds good, and how do you send the encrypted payload?
I go to a Turkish Internet cafe!
Ha ha, awesome!
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article <10qh19c$2cb07$2@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan Claas
<ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may ask?
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email infrastruture, powered
by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients communicate and where no smtp or nntp is
used. This is handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too. >>
incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own island.
You fail to understand!!! Modern Anonymity Systems no longer need outdated >RFCs and MIME stuff!!! The server only handles MIME etc. for old fashioned >classic email and Usenet postings, because NymMail nor Go needs such stuff, >because NymMail email messages have UTF-8 support automatically build in,
so that it is also the reason, when you receive an anonymous NymMail email >message that it no longer contains any headers, like From: Subject: MIME etc.
How cool is that? :-) I say it is super cool, becaue when you send email >messages globally to people, regardless of their language, the email messages >will always been displayed properly and you have anonymity, due to lack of >RFC conform and outdated email headers. :-)
Sounds good, and how do you send the encrypted payload?
I go to a Turkish Internet cafe!
Stupid Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article <10qh19c$2cb07$2@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may ask?
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email infrastruture, powered
by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients communicate and where no smtp or nntp is
used. This is handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own island.
You fail to understand!!! Modern Anonymity Systems no longer need outdated RFCs and MIME stuff!!! The server only handles MIME etc. for old fashioned classic email and Usenet postings, because NymMail nor Go needs such stuff, because NymMail email messages have UTF-8 support automatically build in, so that it is also the reason, when you receive an anonymous NymMail email message that it no longer contains any headers, like From: Subject: MIME etc.
How cool is that? :-) I say it is super cool, becaue when you send email messages globally to people, regardless of their language, the email messages
will always been displayed properly and you have anonymity, due to lack of RFC conform and outdated email headers. :-)
So you think it's cool to ignore standards out of incompetence
and call it modern, though it's a huge step backwards, and a
step into isolation. Nevertheless, have fun with your crap!
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle file attachments?
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Stupid Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article <10qh19c$2cb07$2@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan ClaasYou fail to understand!!! Modern Anonymity Systems no longer need outdated >> > RFCs and MIME stuff!!! The server only handles MIME etc. for old fashioned >> > classic email and Usenet postings, because NymMail nor Go needs such stuff,
<ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may ask?
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email infrastruture, powered
by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients communicate and where no smtp or nntp is
used. This is handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system
incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own island. >> >
because NymMail email messages have UTF-8 support automatically build in, >> > so that it is also the reason, when you receive an anonymous NymMail email >> > message that it no longer contains any headers, like From: Subject: MIME etc.
How cool is that? :-) I say it is super cool, becaue when you send email >> > messages globally to people, regardless of their language, the email messages
will always been displayed properly and you have anonymity, due to lack of >> > RFC conform and outdated email headers. :-)
So you think it's cool to ignore standards out of incompetence
and call it modern, though it's a huge step backwards, and a
step into isolation. Nevertheless, have fun with your crap!
I strongly believe that you are using outdated crap, which can't
keep up with modern Nym Mixnet innovations and that what makes
you angry and force you to reply in such a manner.
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle file attachments?
First of all, we don't need outdated email attachments, because
we can transfer much larger files with another modern Nym Mixnet
tool. :-) https://github.com/rachyandco/wormhole-nym
And if we need ssh over the Nym Mixnet:
https://github.com/rachyandco/ssh-nym
You see, more and more modern Nym Mixnet innovations are comming and
your are not isolated, like you are with OmniMix. :-)
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Stupid Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article <10qh19c$2cb07$2@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may ask?
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email infrastruture, powered
by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients communicate and where no smtp or nntp is
used. This is handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own island.
You fail to understand!!! Modern Anonymity Systems no longer need outdated
RFCs and MIME stuff!!! The server only handles MIME etc. for old fashioned
classic email and Usenet postings, because NymMail nor Go needs such stuff,
because NymMail email messages have UTF-8 support automatically build in,
so that it is also the reason, when you receive an anonymous NymMail email
message that it no longer contains any headers, like From: Subject: MIME etc.
How cool is that? :-) I say it is super cool, becaue when you send email
messages globally to people, regardless of their language, the email messages
will always been displayed properly and you have anonymity, due to lack of
RFC conform and outdated email headers. :-)
So you think it's cool to ignore standards out of incompetence
and call it modern, though it's a huge step backwards, and a
step into isolation. Nevertheless, have fun with your crap!
I strongly believe that you are using outdated crap, which can't
keep up with modern Nym Mixnet innovations and that what makes
you angry and force you to reply in such a manner.
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle file attachments?
First of all, we don't need outdated email attachments, because
we can transfer much larger files with another modern Nym Mixnet
tool. :-) https://github.com/rachyandco/wormhole-nym
And the next non-standard wannabe protocol. They simply try to attack established communication methods to make money with their proprietary
bs.
And if we need ssh over the Nym Mixnet:
https://github.com/rachyandco/ssh-nym
You see, more and more modern Nym Mixnet innovations are comming and
your are not isolated, like you are with OmniMix. :-)
Run an offline OmniMix in Simulation Mode and at its StateInt tab switch >"Del" to "Never" to get hold of the resulting remailer packets you then
can send as standard e-mail to their entry remailers the way you like.
Run an offline OmniMix in Simulation Mode and at its StateInt tab switch >>"Del" to "Never" to get hold of the resulting remailer packets you then >>can send as standard e-mail to their entry remailers the way you like.
But I don't have Windows spyware and never will have it again!
You are such an idiot, like some others here! The Nym ecosystem has many
many thousands of users, had released many research papers, was audited several times and is a very reliable replacement for the Tor ecosystem.
Claas wrote:
You are such an idiot, like some others here! The Nym ecosystem has many many thousands of users, had released many research papers, was audited several times and is a very reliable replacement for the Tor ecosystem.
But anonymous remailing with or without Tor seamlessly plugs into the standard e-mail ecosystem, which is what's used by me and billions of
people, for free! Period.
Run an offline OmniMix in Simulation Mode and at its StateInt tab switch >>"Del" to "Never" to get hold of the resulting remailer packets you then >>can send as standard e-mail to their entry remailers the way you like.
But I don't have Windows spyware and never will have it again!
Yamn Remailer wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Stupid Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article <10qh19c$2cb07$2@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan Claas
<ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may ask? >> > > > > > >
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email infrastruture, powered
by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients communicate and where no smtp or nntp is
used. This is handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system
incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own island.
You fail to understand!!! Modern Anonymity Systems no longer need outdated
RFCs and MIME stuff!!! The server only handles MIME etc. for old fashioned
classic email and Usenet postings, because NymMail nor Go needs such stuff,
because NymMail email messages have UTF-8 support automatically build in,
so that it is also the reason, when you receive an anonymous NymMail email
message that it no longer contains any headers, like From: Subject: MIME etc.
How cool is that? :-) I say it is super cool, becaue when you send email
messages globally to people, regardless of their language, the email messages
will always been displayed properly and you have anonymity, due to lack of
RFC conform and outdated email headers. :-)
So you think it's cool to ignore standards out of incompetence
and call it modern, though it's a huge step backwards, and a
step into isolation. Nevertheless, have fun with your crap!
I strongly believe that you are using outdated crap, which can't
keep up with modern Nym Mixnet innovations and that what makes
you angry and force you to reply in such a manner.
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle file attachments?
First of all, we don't need outdated email attachments, because
we can transfer much larger files with another modern Nym Mixnet
tool. :-) https://github.com/rachyandco/wormhole-nym
And the next non-standard wannabe protocol. They simply try to attack
established communication methods to make money with their proprietary
bs.
And if we need ssh over the Nym Mixnet:
https://github.com/rachyandco/ssh-nym
You see, more and more modern Nym Mixnet innovations are comming and
your are not isolated, like you are with OmniMix. :-)
You are such an idiot, like some others here! The Nym ecosystem has many
many thousands of users, had released many research papers, was audited >several times and is a very reliable replacement for the Tor ecosystem.
But as an uninformed OmniMix users you can't know this.
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Yamn Remailer wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Stupid Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article <10qh19c$2cb07$2@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may ask?
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email infrastruture, powered
by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients communicate and where no smtp or nntp is
used. This is handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own island.
You fail to understand!!! Modern Anonymity Systems no longer need outdated
RFCs and MIME stuff!!! The server only handles MIME etc. for old fashioned
classic email and Usenet postings, because NymMail nor Go needs such stuff,
because NymMail email messages have UTF-8 support automatically build in,
so that it is also the reason, when you receive an anonymous NymMail email
message that it no longer contains any headers, like From: Subject: MIME etc.
How cool is that? :-) I say it is super cool, becaue when you send email
messages globally to people, regardless of their language, the email messages
will always been displayed properly and you have anonymity, due to lack of
RFC conform and outdated email headers. :-)
So you think it's cool to ignore standards out of incompetence
and call it modern, though it's a huge step backwards, and a
step into isolation. Nevertheless, have fun with your crap!
I strongly believe that you are using outdated crap, which can't
keep up with modern Nym Mixnet innovations and that what makes
you angry and force you to reply in such a manner.
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle file attachments?
First of all, we don't need outdated email attachments, because
we can transfer much larger files with another modern Nym Mixnet
tool. :-) https://github.com/rachyandco/wormhole-nym
And the next non-standard wannabe protocol. They simply try to attack established communication methods to make money with their proprietary bs.
And if we need ssh over the Nym Mixnet:
https://github.com/rachyandco/ssh-nym
You see, more and more modern Nym Mixnet innovations are comming and your are not isolated, like you are with OmniMix. :-)
You are such an idiot, like some others here! The Nym ecosystem has many many thousands of users, had released many research papers, was audited several times and is a very reliable replacement for the Tor ecosystem.
But as an uninformed OmniMix users you can't know this.
Face it, the only Nym promoter here are you and your sock puppets. For well-informed users of free anonymity tools it's easy to recognize your dishonest intentions of making big money no matter how, not backing off
from lying and defamation. You're a despicable subhuman creature. Too
bad that Steven, Alex, Richard and Christian are no longer here to slag
you off in no time.
Anonymous <noreply@oc2mx.net> wrote:
Run an offline OmniMix in Simulation Mode and at its StateInt tab switch "Del" to "Never" to get hold of the resulting remailer packets you then can send as standard e-mail to their entry remailers the way you like.
But I don't have Windows spyware and never will have it again!
Which (spyware) OS do you run and what's its market share?
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous <noreply@oc2mx.net> wrote:
Run an offline OmniMix in Simulation Mode and at its StateInt tab switch
"Del" to "Never" to get hold of the resulting remailer packets you then
can send as standard e-mail to their entry remailers the way you like.
But I don't have Windows spyware and never will have it again!
Which (spyware) OS do you run and what's its market share?
JFTR... My old Linux laptop, which had only clean installs and
was used only sometimes, was hacked in the past two times. :-D
Yamn Remailer wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Stupid Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article <10qh19c$2cb07$2@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan Claas
<ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may ask? >> > > > > > >
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email infrastruture, powered
by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients communicate and where no smtp or nntp is
used. This is handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system
incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own island.
You fail to understand!!! Modern Anonymity Systems no longer need outdated
RFCs and MIME stuff!!! The server only handles MIME etc. for old fashioned
classic email and Usenet postings, because NymMail nor Go needs such stuff,
because NymMail email messages have UTF-8 support automatically build in,
so that it is also the reason, when you receive an anonymous NymMail email
message that it no longer contains any headers, like From: Subject: MIME etc.
How cool is that? :-) I say it is super cool, becaue when you send email
messages globally to people, regardless of their language, the email messages
will always been displayed properly and you have anonymity, due to lack of
RFC conform and outdated email headers. :-)
So you think it's cool to ignore standards out of incompetence
and call it modern, though it's a huge step backwards, and a
step into isolation. Nevertheless, have fun with your crap!
I strongly believe that you are using outdated crap, which can't
keep up with modern Nym Mixnet innovations and that what makes
you angry and force you to reply in such a manner.
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle file attachments?
First of all, we don't need outdated email attachments, because
we can transfer much larger files with another modern Nym Mixnet
tool. :-) https://github.com/rachyandco/wormhole-nym
And the next non-standard wannabe protocol. They simply try to attack
established communication methods to make money with their proprietary
bs.
And if we need ssh over the Nym Mixnet:
https://github.com/rachyandco/ssh-nym
You see, more and more modern Nym Mixnet innovations are comming and
your are not isolated, like you are with OmniMix. :-)
You are such an idiot, like some others here! The Nym ecosystem has many
many thousands of users, had released many research papers, was audited >several times and is a very reliable replacement for the Tor ecosystem.
But as an uninformed OmniMix users you can't know this.
Which (spyware) OS do you run and what's its market share?
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Yamn Remailer wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Stupid Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article <10qh19c$2cb07$2@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may ask?
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email infrastruture, powered
by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients communicate and where no smtp or nntp is
used. This is handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own island.
You fail to understand!!! Modern Anonymity Systems no longer need outdated
RFCs and MIME stuff!!! The server only handles MIME etc. for old fashioned
classic email and Usenet postings, because NymMail nor Go needs such stuff,
because NymMail email messages have UTF-8 support automatically build in,
so that it is also the reason, when you receive an anonymous NymMail email
message that it no longer contains any headers, like From: Subject: MIME etc.
How cool is that? :-) I say it is super cool, becaue when you send email
messages globally to people, regardless of their language, the email messages
will always been displayed properly and you have anonymity, due to lack of
RFC conform and outdated email headers. :-)
So you think it's cool to ignore standards out of incompetence
and call it modern, though it's a huge step backwards, and a
step into isolation. Nevertheless, have fun with your crap!
I strongly believe that you are using outdated crap, which can't
keep up with modern Nym Mixnet innovations and that what makes
you angry and force you to reply in such a manner.
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle file attachments?
First of all, we don't need outdated email attachments, because
we can transfer much larger files with another modern Nym Mixnet
tool. :-) https://github.com/rachyandco/wormhole-nym
And the next non-standard wannabe protocol. They simply try to attack established communication methods to make money with their proprietary bs.
And if we need ssh over the Nym Mixnet:
https://github.com/rachyandco/ssh-nym
You see, more and more modern Nym Mixnet innovations are comming and your are not isolated, like you are with OmniMix. :-)
You are such an idiot, like some others here! The Nym ecosystem has many many thousands of users, had released many research papers, was audited several times and is a very reliable replacement for the Tor ecosystem.
OmniMix and Tor are for FREE, whereas your Nym is a rip-off.
For those who refuse running web contents on their computer:
<https://nym.com/pricing>
| NymVPN pricing: FAQs
|
| Can I try NymVPN for free?
|
| Yes, NymVPN offers a 7-day free trial for new users. Users can cancel
| the trial before it ends exactly 7 days from activation of the account.
| When the free trial is complete, the subscription will automatically
| convert to the subscription plan selected at current pricing unless the
| customer cancels beforehand.
|
| Activating a NymVPN free trial is only available with certain payment
| types and providers, and requires a payment method should the customer
| decide to keep using the product beyond the trial period. No charges are
| made to the card at the time of activating the free trial. Free trials
| cannot be activated using cryptocurrency payments.
Even for getting a free trial you have to hand over your non-anonymous payment credentials. Then without cancellation a trial account is automatically converted into a charged subscription. Reminds me of fraudulent doorstep brigades. What a colossal cheek!
But as an uninformed OmniMix users you can't know this.
We know enough. FOAD! That cheater has to be removed from this group.
Yamn Remailer wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Stupid Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article <10qh19c$2cb07$2@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan ClaasYou fail to understand!!! Modern Anonymity Systems no longer need outdated
<ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may ask? >>>>>>>>
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email infrastruture, powered
by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients communicate and where no smtp or nntp is
used. This is handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system
incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own island. >>>>>
RFCs and MIME stuff!!! The server only handles MIME etc. for old fashioned
classic email and Usenet postings, because NymMail nor Go needs such stuff,
because NymMail email messages have UTF-8 support automatically build in, >>>>> so that it is also the reason, when you receive an anonymous NymMail email
message that it no longer contains any headers, like From: Subject: MIME etc.
How cool is that? :-) I say it is super cool, becaue when you send email >>>>> messages globally to people, regardless of their language, the email messages
will always been displayed properly and you have anonymity, due to lack of
RFC conform and outdated email headers. :-)
So you think it's cool to ignore standards out of incompetence
and call it modern, though it's a huge step backwards, and a
step into isolation. Nevertheless, have fun with your crap!
I strongly believe that you are using outdated crap, which can't
keep up with modern Nym Mixnet innovations and that what makes
you angry and force you to reply in such a manner.
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle file attachments?
First of all, we don't need outdated email attachments, because
we can transfer much larger files with another modern Nym Mixnet
tool. :-) https://github.com/rachyandco/wormhole-nym
And the next non-standard wannabe protocol. They simply try to attack
established communication methods to make money with their proprietary
bs.
And if we need ssh over the Nym Mixnet:
https://github.com/rachyandco/ssh-nym
You see, more and more modern Nym Mixnet innovations are comming and
your are not isolated, like you are with OmniMix. :-)
You are such an idiot, like some others here! The Nym ecosystem has many
many thousands of users, had released many research papers, was audited several times and is a very reliable replacement for the Tor ecosystem.
But as an uninformed OmniMix users you can't know this.
Stefan Claas wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous <noreply@oc2mx.net> wrote:
Run an offline OmniMix in Simulation Mode and at its StateInt tab switch >>>>> "Del" to "Never" to get hold of the resulting remailer packets you then >>>>> can send as standard e-mail to their entry remailers the way you like. >>>>>
But I don't have Windows spyware and never will have it again!
Which (spyware) OS do you run and what's its market share?
JFTR... My old Linux laptop, which had only clean installs and
was used only sometimes, was hacked in the past two times. :-D
But now I have PlugMate, from our chinese friends,
which I can use
on Android and Widnows! :-) https://plugos.net/
Nym Mail <noreply@oc2mx.net> wrote:
Way too outdated, time consuming and too complicated, for the average
user and it leaves traces on your SSD, which is an absolutely no go in 2026.
Then encrypt your disk drive or create a hidden partition, Claashole.
And, btw, you're promoting snake oil, as with a compromised system
scanning memory isn't any harder than examining a disk drive.
which I can use on Android and Widnows!
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Stupid Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article <10qh19c$2cb07$2@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan Claas
<ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the
required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages,
followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add
headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them,
meaning that you can
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may
ask?
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email
infrastruture, powered by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients
communicate and where no smtp or nntp is used. This is
handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system
incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own
island.
You fail to understand!!! Modern Anonymity Systems no longer need
outdated RFCs and MIME stuff!!! The server only handles MIME etc.
for old fashioned classic email and Usenet postings, because
NymMail nor Go needs such stuff, because NymMail email messages
have UTF-8 support automatically build in, so that it is also the
reason, when you receive an anonymous NymMail email message that
How cool is that? :-) I say it is super cool, becaue when you send
email messages globally to people, regardless of their language,
the email messages will always been displayed properly and you
have anonymity, due to lack of RFC conform and outdated email
headers. :-)
So you think it's cool to ignore standards out of incompetence
and call it modern, though it's a huge step backwards, and a
step into isolation. Nevertheless, have fun with your crap!
I strongly believe that you are using outdated crap, which can't
keep up with modern Nym Mixnet innovations and that what makes
you angry and force you to reply in such a manner.
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle file attachments?
First of all, we don't need outdated email attachments, because
we can transfer much larger files with another modern Nym Mixnet
tool. :-) https://github.com/rachyandco/wormhole-nym
And the next non-standard wannabe protocol. They simply try to attack established communication methods to make money with their proprietary
bs.
https://github.com/rachyandco/ssh-nym
You see, more and more modern Nym Mixnet innovations are comming and
your are not isolated, like you are with OmniMix. :-)
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Yamn Remailer wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
You see, more and more modern Nym Mixnet innovations are comming and
your are not isolated, like you are with OmniMix. :-)
You are such an idiot, like some others here! The Nym ecosystem has many >>many thousands of users, had released many research papers, was audited >>several times and is a very reliable replacement for the Tor ecosystem.
OmniMix and Tor are for FREE, whereas your Nym is a rip-off.
For those who refuse running web contents on their computer:
<https://nym.com/pricing>
| NymVPN pricing: FAQs
|
| Can I try NymVPN for free?
|
| Yes, NymVPN offers a 7-day free trial for new users. Users can cancel
| the trial before it ends exactly 7 days from activation of the account.
| When the free trial is complete, the subscription will automatically
| convert to the subscription plan selected at current pricing unless the
| customer cancels beforehand.
|
| Activating a NymVPN free trial is only available with certain payment
| types and providers, and requires a payment method should the customer
| decide to keep using the product beyond the trial period. No charges are
| made to the card at the time of activating the free trial. Free trials
| cannot be activated using cryptocurrency payments.
Even for getting a free trial you have to hand over your non-anonymous >payment credentials. Then without cancellation a trial account is >automatically converted into a charged subscription. Reminds me of >fraudulent doorstep brigades. What a colossal cheek!
Enjoying cypherpunk remailing, the best method...
Anonymous User wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Yamn Remailer wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Stupid Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article <10qh19c$2cb07$2@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan Claas
<ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may ask?
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email infrastruture, powered
by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients communicate and where no smtp or nntp is
used. This is handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system >> > > > > > > incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own island.
You fail to understand!!! Modern Anonymity Systems no longer need outdated
RFCs and MIME stuff!!! The server only handles MIME etc. for old fashioned
classic email and Usenet postings, because NymMail nor Go needs such stuff,
because NymMail email messages have UTF-8 support automatically build in,
so that it is also the reason, when you receive an anonymous NymMail email
message that it no longer contains any headers, like From: Subject: MIME etc.
How cool is that? :-) I say it is super cool, becaue when you send email
messages globally to people, regardless of their language, the email messages
will always been displayed properly and you have anonymity, due to lack of
RFC conform and outdated email headers. :-)
So you think it's cool to ignore standards out of incompetence
and call it modern, though it's a huge step backwards, and a
step into isolation. Nevertheless, have fun with your crap!
I strongly believe that you are using outdated crap, which can't
keep up with modern Nym Mixnet innovations and that what makes
you angry and force you to reply in such a manner.
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle file attachments?
First of all, we don't need outdated email attachments, because
we can transfer much larger files with another modern Nym Mixnet
tool. :-) https://github.com/rachyandco/wormhole-nym
And the next non-standard wannabe protocol. They simply try to attack >> > > established communication methods to make money with their proprietary >> > > bs.
And if we need ssh over the Nym Mixnet:
https://github.com/rachyandco/ssh-nym
You see, more and more modern Nym Mixnet innovations are comming and >> > > > your are not isolated, like you are with OmniMix. :-)
You are such an idiot, like some others here! The Nym ecosystem has many >> > many thousands of users, had released many research papers, was audited
several times and is a very reliable replacement for the Tor ecosystem.
OmniMix and Tor are for FREE, whereas your Nym is a rip-off.
For those who refuse running web contents on their computer:
<https://nym.com/pricing>
| NymVPN pricing: FAQs
|
| Can I try NymVPN for free?
|
| Yes, NymVPN offers a 7-day free trial for new users. Users can cancel
| the trial before it ends exactly 7 days from activation of the account.
| When the free trial is complete, the subscription will automatically
| convert to the subscription plan selected at current pricing unless the
| customer cancels beforehand.
|
| Activating a NymVPN free trial is only available with certain payment
| types and providers, and requires a payment method should the customer
| decide to keep using the product beyond the trial period. No charges are >> | made to the card at the time of activating the free trial. Free trials
| cannot be activated using cryptocurrency payments.
Even for getting a free trial you have to hand over your non-anonymous
payment credentials. Then without cancellation a trial account is
automatically converted into a charged subscription. Reminds me of
fraudulent doorstep brigades. What a colossal cheek!
But as an uninformed OmniMix users you can't know this.
We know enough. FOAD! That cheater has to be removed from this group.
You rotten bastard fail to understand that all Nym components on GitHub
are free of charge to use, so that people can participate in the global
and decentralized Nym Mixnet. The excellent and commercial NymVPN app
was introduced last year, to give VPN users globally a very very good >alternative to other one hop VPNs. Got it, moron?
Yamn3 Remailer wrote:
Nym Mail <noreply@oc2mx.net> wrote:
Way too outdated, time consuming and too complicated, for the average
user and it leaves traces on your SSD, which is an absolutely no go in 2026.
Then encrypt your disk drive or create a hidden partition, Claashole.
And when third-parties request an unlock, sure of course, then you have >nothing on your SSD remaining...
On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 18:59:14 -0000, in article <10qjpu3$1k2sr$6@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym>
wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Yamn Remailer wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Stupid Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article <10qh19c$2cb07$2@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages, followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them, meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may ask?
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email infrastruture, powered
by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients communicate and where no smtp or nntp is
used. This is handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system
incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own island.
You fail to understand!!! Modern Anonymity Systems no longer need outdated
RFCs and MIME stuff!!! The server only handles MIME etc. for old fashioned
classic email and Usenet postings, because NymMail nor Go needs such stuff,
because NymMail email messages have UTF-8 support automatically build in,
so that it is also the reason, when you receive an anonymous NymMail email
message that it no longer contains any headers, like From: Subject: MIME etc.
How cool is that? :-) I say it is super cool, becaue when you send email
messages globally to people, regardless of their language, the email messages
will always been displayed properly and you have anonymity, due to lack of
RFC conform and outdated email headers. :-)
So you think it's cool to ignore standards out of incompetence and call it modern, though it's a huge step backwards, and a
step into isolation. Nevertheless, have fun with your crap!
I strongly believe that you are using outdated crap, which can't keep up with modern Nym Mixnet innovations and that what makes
you angry and force you to reply in such a manner.
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle file attachments?
First of all, we don't need outdated email attachments, because
we can transfer much larger files with another modern Nym Mixnet tool. :-) https://github.com/rachyandco/wormhole-nym
And the next non-standard wannabe protocol. They simply try to attack
established communication methods to make money with their proprietary
bs.
And if we need ssh over the Nym Mixnet:
https://github.com/rachyandco/ssh-nym
You see, more and more modern Nym Mixnet innovations are comming and
your are not isolated, like you are with OmniMix. :-)
You are such an idiot, like some others here! The Nym ecosystem has many
many thousands of users, had released many research papers, was audited several times and is a very reliable replacement for the Tor ecosystem.
OmniMix and Tor are for FREE, whereas your Nym is a rip-off.
For those who refuse running web contents on their computer:
<https://nym.com/pricing>
| NymVPN pricing: FAQs
|
| Can I try NymVPN for free?
|
| Yes, NymVPN offers a 7-day free trial for new users. Users can cancel
| the trial before it ends exactly 7 days from activation of the account. | When the free trial is complete, the subscription will automatically
| convert to the subscription plan selected at current pricing unless the | customer cancels beforehand.
|
| Activating a NymVPN free trial is only available with certain payment
| types and providers, and requires a payment method should the customer | decide to keep using the product beyond the trial period. No charges are
| made to the card at the time of activating the free trial. Free trials | cannot be activated using cryptocurrency payments.
Even for getting a free trial you have to hand over your non-anonymous payment credentials. Then without cancellation a trial account is automatically converted into a charged subscription. Reminds me of fraudulent doorstep brigades. What a colossal cheek!
But as an uninformed OmniMix users you can't know this.
We know enough. FOAD! That cheater has to be removed from this group.
You rotten bastard fail to understand that all Nym components on GitHub
are free of charge to use, so that people can participate in the global
and decentralized Nym Mixnet. The excellent and commercial NymVPN app
was introduced last year, to give VPN users globally a very very good alternative to other one hop VPNs. Got it, moron?
No, at least I don't get it. How can NYM node operators be paid with
NYM tokens when the NYM Mixnet usage is free of charge? Where does
their salary come from?
Step 1: Download the .zip folder for your platform at:
https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk/NymMail/releases/tag/v0.1.0
unzip the archive and in the uncompressed folder, on you
Desktop, always start/stop enc.exe first and then NymMail.exe
Step 2: Sending an email, or Usenet message, is very easy.
In the To: field insert: gateway@mix.nym, which you have to
add first in the Nym Address Manager (man icon (top/middle))
The alias is, as shown before: gateway@mix.nym
The Nym address is: EdREgePGy6i6VLuykvzJhCF6guSMm4ify1oYS47Ppe2h.2PaybChtBxeiATQsswpEfWStWxYsEmRYDUuGZhK7WNKf@DPXCrJGG6m6MEkZEaX6JMwhfZoxGHqW5Vv5dLcLvk7F5
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
Enjoying cypherpunk remailing, the best method...
Type 1 remailing the best method? Vulnerabilities all over the place!
This group has been rendered useless by adversaries of free speech
flooding it with disinformation out of arrogance, injured pride,
totalitarian ideology or commercial self-interest. Be aware!
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
Enjoying cypherpunk remailing, the best method...
Type 1 remailing the best method? Vulnerabilities all over the place!
This group has been rendered useless by adversaries of free speech
flooding it with disinformation out of arrogance, injured pride,
totalitarian ideology or commercial self-interest. Be aware!
Yamn2 Remailer wrote:
No, at least I don't get it. How can NYM node operators be paid with
NYM tokens when the NYM Mixnet usage is free of charge? Where does
their salary come from?
People can stake:
https://nym.com/blog/stake-Nym-tokens
From <https://nym.com/blog/the-value-of-nym>:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Yamn2 Remailer wrote:
No, at least I don't get it. How can NYM node operators be paid with
NYM tokens when the NYM Mixnet usage is free of charge? Where does
their salary come from?
People can stake:
https://nym.com/blog/stake-Nym-tokens
The question is: Do they have to?
How can NYM tokenomics function without users being forced to pay for
such tokens, which obviously are the cryptocurrency within this
commercial network?
From <https://nym.com/blog/the-value-of-nym>:
The NYM token firstly incentivises operators to run the powerful Nym
network. NYM tokens are distributed to nodes that provide privacy
services to end users. As the usage and demand increases, more value
flows through the network and is distributed to operators, incentivisng
more to join in and serve demand.
Nym is decentralized, not just to be ethical and equitable, but because
that helps for privacy. Because the network is decentralised and permissionless, anyone can join as a node by bonding some NYM tokens to signal that they want to join. This registers them with the Mixnet smart contract.
Fritz Wuehler wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Yamn2 Remailer wrote:
No, at least I don't get it. How can NYM node operators be paid with
NYM tokens when the NYM Mixnet usage is free of charge? Where does
their salary come from?
People can stake:
https://nym.com/blog/stake-Nym-tokens
The question is: Do they have to?
How can NYM tokenomics function without users being forced to pay for
such tokens, which obviously are the cryptocurrency within this
commercial network?
From <https://nym.com/blog/the-value-of-nym>:
The NYM token firstly incentivises operators to run the powerful Nym
network. NYM tokens are distributed to nodes that provide privacy
services to end users. As the usage and demand increases, more value
flows through the network and is distributed to operators, incentivisng
more to join in and serve demand.
Nym is decentralized, not just to be ethical and equitable, but because
that helps for privacy. Because the network is decentralised and
permissionless, anyone can join as a node by bonding some NYM tokens to
signal that they want to join. This registers them with the Mixnet smart
contract.
It's similiar to what Hal Finney once proposed long ago.
<https://nakamotoinstitute.org/library/for-pay-remailers/>
Fritz Wuehler wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Yamn2 Remailer wrote:
No, at least I don't get it. How can NYM node operators be paid with
NYM tokens when the NYM Mixnet usage is free of charge? Where does
their salary come from?
People can stake:
https://nym.com/blog/stake-Nym-tokens
The question is: Do they have to?
How can NYM tokenomics function without users being forced to pay for
such tokens, which obviously are the cryptocurrency within this
commercial network?
From <https://nym.com/blog/the-value-of-nym>:
The NYM token firstly incentivises operators to run the powerful Nym
network. NYM tokens are distributed to nodes that provide privacy
services to end users. As the usage and demand increases, more value
flows through the network and is distributed to operators, incentivisng
more to join in and serve demand.
Nym is decentralized, not just to be ethical and equitable, but because
that helps for privacy. Because the network is decentralised and
permissionless, anyone can join as a node by bonding some NYM tokens to
signal that they want to join. This registers them with the Mixnet smart
contract.
It's similiar to what Hal Finney once proposed long ago.
<https://nakamotoinstitute.org/library/for-pay-remailers/>
Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
Enjoying cypherpunk remailing, the best method...
Type 1 remailing the best method? Vulnerabilities all over the place!
This group has been rendered useless by adversaries of free speech
flooding it with disinformation out of arrogance, injured pride,
totalitarian ideology or commercial self-interest. Be aware!
Free entertainment!
Claas, the question was: Is NYM Mixnet usage free of charge?
So, no matter how you slice it, users of the Nym Mixnet have to pay for
that commercial service. OTOH anonymous remailing and Tor are for free.
Fritz Wuehler wrote:
Claas, the question was: Is NYM Mixnet usage free of charge?
This reply was sent with NymMail Open Source software, while
using the Nym Mixnet, *free of charge*.
Nym Mail wrote:
Fritz Wuehler wrote:
Claas, the question was: Is NYM Mixnet usage free of charge?
This reply was sent with NymMail Open Source software, while
using the Nym Mixnet, *free of charge*.
And this reply was sent with Nym Mailer Open Source software,
requiring a NymVPN subscription, or remops setting up a free
of charge Open Source nym-socks5-client to use Nym Mailer with
the Nym Mixnet free of charge too.
Fritz Wuehler wrote:
Claas, the question was: Is NYM Mixnet usage free of charge?
This reply was sent with NymMail Open Source software, while
using the Nym Mixnet, *free of charge*.
Nym Mail wrote:
Fritz Wuehler wrote:
Claas, the question was: Is NYM Mixnet usage free of charge?
This reply was sent with NymMail Open Source software, while
using the Nym Mixnet, *free of charge*.
And this reply was sent with Nym Mailer Open Source software,
requiring a NymVPN subscription, or remops setting up a free
of charge Open Source nym-socks5-client to use Nym Mailer with
the Nym Mixnet free of charge too.
As people can see, there is no difference in headers, to not
reveal if someone is using the Nym Mixnet free of charge or
commercially.
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
You see, more and more modern Nym Mixnet innovations are comming and
your are not isolated, like you are with OmniMix. :-)
If you knew how to use OmniMix capabilities, you wouldn't have the limits you're experiencing.
I can use OmniMix to get to remote locations when all other methods are failed for example.
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
Does the remop have to pay for that in any way?
Anonymous User wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
Does the remop have to pay for that in any way?
No, the nym-network-requester is free of charge, to send email or Usenet messages from within the Nym Mixnet, when users are using for example Nym Mailer with the free of charge nym-socks5-client. If there is a demand, I
can compile the nym-socks5-client for Windows users, as the Nym team only provides all Nym components, free of charge, for Linux. Remops then have
only to supply their Nym address, so that users can use it as --provider credentials for the nym-socks5-client.
Important, the nym-network-requester run without an extra config is an
open relay, but remops can create a whitelist for reachable domains with
the program.
Stefan Claas wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
Does the remop have to pay for that in any way?
No, the nym-network-requester is free of charge, to send email or Usenet messages from within the Nym Mixnet, when users are using for example Nym Mailer with the free of charge nym-socks5-client. If there is a demand, I can compile the nym-socks5-client for Windows users, as the Nym team only provides all Nym components, free of charge, for Linux. Remops then have only to supply their Nym address, so that users can use it as --provider credentials for the nym-socks5-client.
Important, the nym-network-requester run without an extra config is an
open relay, but remops can create a whitelist for reachable domains with the program.
But remops need a working MTA for that! The nym-network-requester can not only been used with email or Usenet but with all sorts of Internet services.
Yamn2 Remailer wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
You see, more and more modern Nym Mixnet innovations are comming
and your are not isolated, like you are with OmniMix. :-)
If you knew how to use OmniMix capabilities, you wouldn't have the
limits you're experiencing.
What capabilities? It supports only smtp(s) and nntp(s), right?
The other big problem with OmniMix is that non-tech or elderly people,
or people with a disabillty, will have a high learning curve with it,
which is not worthwhile, because of modern Nym technolgy they can use.
Not to speak about the very bad UX experience, which does not work
with iOS, Android, macOS and Linux.
I can use OmniMix to get to remote locations when all other methods
are failed for example.
What other methods failed? The Nym Mixnet or VPN nodes supprts
everything.
Nym Mail wrote:
Fritz Wuehler wrote:
Claas, the question was: Is NYM Mixnet usage free of charge?
This reply was sent with NymMail Open Source software, while
using the Nym Mixnet, *free of charge*.
And this reply was sent with Nym Mailer Open Source software,
requiring a NymVPN subscription, or remops setting up a free
of charge Open Source nym-socks5-client to use Nym Mailer with
the Nym Mixnet free of charge too.
As people can see, there is no difference in headers, to not
reveal if someone is using the Nym Mixnet free of charge or
commercially.
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
Does the remop have to pay for that in any way?
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 08:12:36 -0000, Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
Fritz Wuehler wrote:
Claas, the question was: Is NYM Mixnet usage free of charge?
This reply was sent with NymMail Open Source software, while
using the Nym Mixnet, *free of charge*.
And this reply was sent with Nym Mailer Open Source software,
requiring a NymVPN subscription, or remops setting up a free
of charge Open Source nym-socks5-client to use Nym Mailer with
the Nym Mixnet free of charge too.
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
and my Nym Mailer server software and users have then to use the nym-socks5-client with the remops server set and the Nyma address
from the remops.
Now I downloaded the Nym socks5 client from https://github.com/nymtech/nym/releases/download/nym-binaries-v2026.6-stilton/nym-socks5-client.
But that's a Linux binary! So are there Windows binaries as well? And
where do I find instructions to connect that proyx server with the Nym network similar to my Tor proxy server?
Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
Does the remop have to pay for that in any way?
https://nym.com/docs/operators/tokenomics/mixnet-rewards#roadmap
tells us that though the current startup phase allows us to decide upon voluntary donations ("naive rewarding") we'll soon be confronted with a
fixed usage costs structure ("fair Mixnet"), where, based on bandwidth
usage, "tickets" are collected by their Mixnet gateways, both entries
end exits:
| We are working on the final architecture of Fair Mixnet tokenomics
| implementation and its detailed documentation. The current design is
| called Naive rewarding. It is an intermediate step, allowing operators
| to migrate to nym-node in Mixnet smart contract and for the first time
| receive delegations and earn rewards for any nym-node functionality, in
| opposite to the past system, where only Mixnodes were able to receive
| delegations and rewards.
|
| Please read the roadmap section below to see the planned development.
Consider that move when deciding upon your involvement in this project.
And here a video particularly about the reward system:
https://www.youtube.com/live/3G1pJqvO2VM?t=725
| This is effectively the full Nym token economics in action. We have
| users paying for the NymVPN by subscriptions. Those subscriptions are
| feeding into a buy order that gets triggered on the market. A buy order
| buys Nym tokens that are then used to reward operators. So we see this
| full virtuous cycle here. So that's what we are all looking forward to. [...]
| Our aim with all these changes in the final vision for nym node rewards
| is that nym nodes are rewarded fairly, that you guys can make a profit
| and it is actually desirable to run a business as a nym infrastructure
| provider. We also would like to create a genuinely thriving independent
| professional community of operators.
It's all about rewards, about making money ...
But I think they are behind schedule.
Nym Mail <noreply@oc2mx.net> wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
Fritz Wuehler wrote:
Claas, the question was: Is NYM Mixnet usage free of charge?
This reply was sent with NymMail Open Source software, while
using the Nym Mixnet, *free of charge*.
And this reply was sent with Nym Mailer Open Source software,
requiring a NymVPN subscription, or remops setting up a free
of charge Open Source nym-socks5-client to use Nym Mailer with
the Nym Mixnet free of charge too.
As people can see, there is no difference in headers, to not
reveal if someone is using the Nym Mixnet free of charge or
commercially.
Do remops have to pay for Mixnet access?
Anonymous wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 08:12:36 -0000, Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
Fritz Wuehler wrote:
Claas, the question was: Is NYM Mixnet usage free of charge?
This reply was sent with NymMail Open Source software, while
using the Nym Mixnet, *free of charge*.
And this reply was sent with Nym Mailer Open Source software,
requiring a NymVPN subscription, or remops setting up a free
of charge Open Source nym-socks5-client to use Nym Mailer with
the Nym Mixnet free of charge too.
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
and my Nym Mailer server software and users have then to use the nym-socks5-client with the remops server set and the Nyma address
from the remops.
Now I downloaded the Nym socks5 client from https://github.com/nymtech/nym/releases/download/nym-binaries-v2026.6-stilton/nym-socks5-client.
But that's a Linux binary! So are there Windows binaries as well? And where do I find instructions to connect that proyx server with the Nym network similar to my Tor proxy server?
I will later today compile the nym-socks5-client for Windows and give
a little instruction how to use it with Nym Mailer and todays comming
Fetch, so that you can use it right away with anonymous email messages
or anonymous Usenet postings (in a.a.m).
P.S. The Nym team provides all Nym components for Linux only.
Yamn Remailer wrote:
Nym Mail <noreply@oc2mx.net> wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
Fritz Wuehler wrote:
Claas, the question was: Is NYM Mixnet usage free of charge?
This reply was sent with NymMail Open Source software, while
using the Nym Mixnet, *free of charge*.
And this reply was sent with Nym Mailer Open Source software,
requiring a NymVPN subscription, or remops setting up a free
of charge Open Source nym-socks5-client to use Nym Mailer with
the Nym Mixnet free of charge too.
As people can see, there is no difference in headers, to not
reveal if someone is using the Nym Mixnet free of charge or
commercially.
Do remops have to pay for Mixnet access?
No! :-)
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
Does the remop have to pay for that in any way?
https://nym.com/docs/operators/tokenomics/mixnet-rewards#roadmap
tells us that though the current startup phase allows us to decide upon
voluntary donations ("naive rewarding") we'll soon be confronted with a
fixed usage costs structure ("fair Mixnet"), where, based on bandwidth
usage, "tickets" are collected by their Mixnet gateways, both entries
end exits:
| We are working on the final architecture of Fair Mixnet tokenomics
| implementation and its detailed documentation. The current design is
| called Naive rewarding. It is an intermediate step, allowing operators
| to migrate to nym-node in Mixnet smart contract and for the first time
| receive delegations and earn rewards for any nym-node functionality, in
| opposite to the past system, where only Mixnodes were able to receive
| delegations and rewards.
|
| Please read the roadmap section below to see the planned development.
Consider that move when deciding upon your involvement in this project.
And here a video particularly about the reward system:
https://www.youtube.com/live/3G1pJqvO2VM?t=725
| This is effectively the full Nym token economics in action. We have
| users paying for the NymVPN by subscriptions. Those subscriptions are
| feeding into a buy order that gets triggered on the market. A buy order >> | buys Nym tokens that are then used to reward operators. So we see this
| full virtuous cycle here. So that's what we are all looking forward to. >> [...]
| Our aim with all these changes in the final vision for nym node rewards
| is that nym nodes are rewarded fairly, that you guys can make a profit
| and it is actually desirable to run a business as a nym infrastructure
| provider. We also would like to create a genuinely thriving independent >> | professional community of operators.
It's all about rewards, about making money ...
But I think they are behind schedule.
I am aware of the Nym token and award system, but I strongly doubt
that the Nym ecosystem will become later only a commercial entity,
where all users have to pay for Nym usage. Even it would be that
case later, the whole project is Open Source and therefore can be
used by everyone, meaning we could establish our own Nym Mixnet,
with our own Network explorer.
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
Does the remop have to pay for that in any way?
https://nym.com/docs/operators/tokenomics/mixnet-rewards#roadmap
tells us that though the current startup phase allows us to decide upon voluntary donations ("naive rewarding") we'll soon be confronted with a fixed usage costs structure ("fair Mixnet"), where, based on bandwidth usage, "tickets" are collected by their Mixnet gateways, both entries
end exits:
| We are working on the final architecture of Fair Mixnet tokenomics
| implementation and its detailed documentation. The current design is
| called Naive rewarding. It is an intermediate step, allowing operators | to migrate to nym-node in Mixnet smart contract and for the first time | receive delegations and earn rewards for any nym-node functionality, in | opposite to the past system, where only Mixnodes were able to receive
| delegations and rewards.
|
| Please read the roadmap section below to see the planned development.
Consider that move when deciding upon your involvement in this project.
And here a video particularly about the reward system:
https://www.youtube.com/live/3G1pJqvO2VM?t=725
| This is effectively the full Nym token economics in action. We have
| users paying for the NymVPN by subscriptions. Those subscriptions are | feeding into a buy order that gets triggered on the market. A buy order
| buys Nym tokens that are then used to reward operators. So we see this | full virtuous cycle here. So that's what we are all looking forward to.
[...]
| Our aim with all these changes in the final vision for nym node rewards | is that nym nodes are rewarded fairly, that you guys can make a profit | and it is actually desirable to run a business as a nym infrastructure | provider. We also would like to create a genuinely thriving independent
| professional community of operators.
It's all about rewards, about making money ...
But I think they are behind schedule.
I am aware of the Nym token and award system, but I strongly doubt
that the Nym ecosystem will become later only a commercial entity,
where all users have to pay for Nym usage. Even it would be that
case later, the whole project is Open Source and therefore can be
used by everyone, meaning we could establish our own Nym Mixnet,
with our own Network explorer.
Even if cleared from the payment system the NYM Corp network still bases
on Sphinx, where reply information and thereby sender data are part of transmitted packets. That unsolved problem and thereby severe weakness
is the reason why Type III Mixminion remailing never came to life. But
it may be good enough for that business-minded company to deceive
technically uninformed though privacy-aware customers.
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
Does the remop have to pay for that in any way?
https://nym.com/docs/operators/tokenomics/mixnet-rewards#roadmap
tells us that though the current startup phase allows us to decide upon
voluntary donations ("naive rewarding") we'll soon be confronted with a
fixed usage costs structure ("fair Mixnet"), where, based on bandwidth
usage, "tickets" are collected by their Mixnet gateways, both entries
end exits:
| We are working on the final architecture of Fair Mixnet tokenomics
| implementation and its detailed documentation. The current design is
| called Naive rewarding. It is an intermediate step, allowing operators
| to migrate to nym-node in Mixnet smart contract and for the first time
| receive delegations and earn rewards for any nym-node functionality, in
| opposite to the past system, where only Mixnodes were able to receive
| delegations and rewards.
|
| Please read the roadmap section below to see the planned development.
Consider that move when deciding upon your involvement in this project.
And here a video particularly about the reward system:
https://www.youtube.com/live/3G1pJqvO2VM?t=725
| This is effectively the full Nym token economics in action. We have
| users paying for the NymVPN by subscriptions. Those subscriptions are
| feeding into a buy order that gets triggered on the market. A buy order >> | buys Nym tokens that are then used to reward operators. So we see this
| full virtuous cycle here. So that's what we are all looking forward to. >> [...]
| Our aim with all these changes in the final vision for nym node rewards
| is that nym nodes are rewarded fairly, that you guys can make a profit
| and it is actually desirable to run a business as a nym infrastructure
| provider. We also would like to create a genuinely thriving independent >> | professional community of operators.
It's all about rewards, about making money ...
But I think they are behind schedule.
I am aware of the Nym token and award system, but I strongly doubt
that the Nym ecosystem will become later only a commercial entity,
where all users have to pay for Nym usage.
Even it would be that
case later, the whole project is Open Source and therefore can be
used by everyone, meaning we could establish our own Nym Mixnet,
with our own Network explorer.
I am aware of the Nym token and award system, but I strongly doubt
that the Nym ecosystem will become later only a commercial entity,
where all users have to pay for Nym usage.
But that's what they tell us.
Even it would be that
case later, the whole project is Open Source and therefore can be
used by everyone, meaning we could establish our own Nym Mixnet,
with our own Network explorer.
You'd have to strip off all the cryptocurrency ticket part, which also addresses the most obvious weak spot of the system pointing to users.
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
Does the remop have to pay for that in any way?
https://nym.com/docs/operators/tokenomics/mixnet-rewards#roadmap
tells us that though the current startup phase allows us to decide upon
voluntary donations ("naive rewarding") we'll soon be confronted with a
fixed usage costs structure ("fair Mixnet"), where, based on bandwidth
usage, "tickets" are collected by their Mixnet gateways, both entries
end exits:
| We are working on the final architecture of Fair Mixnet tokenomics
| implementation and its detailed documentation. The current design is
| called Naive rewarding. It is an intermediate step, allowing operators >>> | to migrate to nym-node in Mixnet smart contract and for the first time >>> | receive delegations and earn rewards for any nym-node functionality, in >>> | opposite to the past system, where only Mixnodes were able to receive
| delegations and rewards.
|
| Please read the roadmap section below to see the planned development.
Consider that move when deciding upon your involvement in this project.
And here a video particularly about the reward system:
https://www.youtube.com/live/3G1pJqvO2VM?t=725
| This is effectively the full Nym token economics in action. We have
| users paying for the NymVPN by subscriptions. Those subscriptions are >>> | feeding into a buy order that gets triggered on the market. A buy order >>> | buys Nym tokens that are then used to reward operators. So we see this >>> | full virtuous cycle here. So that's what we are all looking forward to. >>> [...]
| Our aim with all these changes in the final vision for nym node rewards >>> | is that nym nodes are rewarded fairly, that you guys can make a profit >>> | and it is actually desirable to run a business as a nym infrastructure >>> | provider. We also would like to create a genuinely thriving independent >>> | professional community of operators.
It's all about rewards, about making money ...
But I think they are behind schedule.
I am aware of the Nym token and award system, but I strongly doubt
that the Nym ecosystem will become later only a commercial entity,
where all users have to pay for Nym usage. Even it would be that
case later, the whole project is Open Source and therefore can be
used by everyone, meaning we could establish our own Nym Mixnet,
with our own Network explorer.
Even if cleared from the payment system the NYM Corp network still bases
on Sphinx, where reply information and thereby sender data are part of >transmitted packets. That unsolved problem and thereby severe weakness
is the reason why Type III Mixminion remailing never came to life. But
it may be good enough for that business-minded company to deceive
technically uninformed though privacy-aware customers.
In article <20260405.124750.9aaacdfd@mixmin.net> Yamn2 Remailer wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
Does the remop have to pay for that in any way?
https://nym.com/docs/operators/tokenomics/mixnet-rewards#roadmap
tells us that though the current startup phase allows us to decide upon voluntary donations ("naive rewarding") we'll soon be confronted with a fixed usage costs structure ("fair Mixnet"), where, based on bandwidth usage, "tickets" are collected by their Mixnet gateways, both entries end exits:
| We are working on the final architecture of Fair Mixnet tokenomics
| implementation and its detailed documentation. The current design is | called Naive rewarding. It is an intermediate step, allowing operators
| to migrate to nym-node in Mixnet smart contract and for the first time
| receive delegations and earn rewards for any nym-node functionality, in
| opposite to the past system, where only Mixnodes were able to receive | delegations and rewards.
|
| Please read the roadmap section below to see the planned development.
Consider that move when deciding upon your involvement in this project.
And here a video particularly about the reward system:
https://www.youtube.com/live/3G1pJqvO2VM?t=725
| This is effectively the full Nym token economics in action. We have | users paying for the NymVPN by subscriptions. Those subscriptions are
| feeding into a buy order that gets triggered on the market. A buy order
| buys Nym tokens that are then used to reward operators. So we see this
| full virtuous cycle here. So that's what we are all looking forward to.
[...]
| Our aim with all these changes in the final vision for nym node rewards
| is that nym nodes are rewarded fairly, that you guys can make a profit
| and it is actually desirable to run a business as a nym infrastructure
| provider. We also would like to create a genuinely thriving independent
| professional community of operators.
It's all about rewards, about making money ...
But I think they are behind schedule.
I am aware of the Nym token and award system, but I strongly doubt
that the Nym ecosystem will become later only a commercial entity,
where all users have to pay for Nym usage. Even it would be that
case later, the whole project is Open Source and therefore can be
used by everyone, meaning we could establish our own Nym Mixnet,
with our own Network explorer.
Even if cleared from the payment system the NYM Corp network still bases
on Sphinx, where reply information and thereby sender data are part of transmitted packets. That unsolved problem and thereby severe weakness
is the reason why Type III Mixminion remailing never came to life. But
it may be good enough for that business-minded company to deceive technically uninformed though privacy-aware customers.
They are riding a dead horse. Though selling snake oil in this sector
can still be lucrative, as demonstrated by many other VPN providers.
So, either you're informed, or you're fleeced. It's that simple. ;-)
Fritz Wuehler wrote:
I am aware of the Nym token and award system, but I strongly doubt
that the Nym ecosystem will become later only a commercial entity,
where all users have to pay for Nym usage.
But that's what they tell us.
Please point me to a quote, saying this.
Even it would be that
case later, the whole project is Open Source and therefore can be
used by everyone, meaning we could establish our own Nym Mixnet,
with our own Network explorer.
You'd have to strip off all the cryptocurrency ticket part, which also
addresses the most obvious weak spot of the system pointing to users.
Why does it point to users? Try Nym Mailer, NymMail or Nike and explain
where there is crypto currency involved, when using official Nym components.
It points to operators Nym addresses, running Nym mix nodes or gateways,
for getting rewards, similiar to what Hal Finney proposed long ago.
https://nym.com/docs/network/concepts
Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
Does the remop have to pay for that in any way?
https://nym.com/docs/operators/tokenomics/mixnet-rewards#roadmap
tells us that though the current startup phase allows us to decide upon >voluntary donations ("naive rewarding") we'll soon be confronted with a
fixed usage costs structure ("fair Mixnet"), where, based on bandwidth
usage, "tickets" are collected by their Mixnet gateways, both entries
end exits:
| We are working on the final architecture of Fair Mixnet tokenomics
| implementation and its detailed documentation. The current design is
| called Naive rewarding. It is an intermediate step, allowing operators
| to migrate to nym-node in Mixnet smart contract and for the first time
| receive delegations and earn rewards for any nym-node functionality, in
| opposite to the past system, where only Mixnodes were able to receive
| delegations and rewards.
|
| Please read the roadmap section below to see the planned development.
Consider that move when deciding upon your involvement in this project.
And here a video particularly about the reward system:
https://www.youtube.com/live/3G1pJqvO2VM?t=725
| This is effectively the full Nym token economics in action. We have
| users paying for the NymVPN by subscriptions. Those subscriptions are
| feeding into a buy order that gets triggered on the market. A buy order
| buys Nym tokens that are then used to reward operators. So we see this
| full virtuous cycle here. So that's what we are all looking forward to. >[...]
| Our aim with all these changes in the final vision for nym node rewards
| is that nym nodes are rewarded fairly, that you guys can make a profit
| and it is actually desirable to run a business as a nym infrastructure
| provider. We also would like to create a genuinely thriving independent
| professional community of operators.
It's all about rewards, about making money ...
But I think they are behind schedule.
https://nym.com/docs/network/concepts
On Sun, 2026-04-05 02:44:20 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio wrote:
Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
Does the remop have to pay for that in any way?
https://nym.com/docs/operators/tokenomics/mixnet-rewards#roadmap
tells us that though the current startup phase allows us to decide upon >>voluntary donations ("naive rewarding") we'll soon be confronted with a >>fixed usage costs structure ("fair Mixnet"), where, based on bandwidth >>usage, "tickets" are collected by their Mixnet gateways, both entries
end exits:
Indeed, at 21:27 of the YT video Nym Corp's Chief Strategy
Officer Yaja Brekke reported:
"Tickets effectively represent real world usage of bandwidth of
the network and we'll have those tickets being collected by
gateways, both entry and exit."
I wonder how those user-specific tickets will be collected at
the exit based on user-specific bandwidth usage at that stage
without harming or breaking anonymity?
| We are working on the final architecture of Fair Mixnet tokenomics
| implementation and its detailed documentation. The current design is
| called Naive rewarding. It is an intermediate step, allowing operators
| to migrate to nym-node in Mixnet smart contract and for the first time
| receive delegations and earn rewards for any nym-node functionality, in
| opposite to the past system, where only Mixnodes were able to receive
| delegations and rewards.
|
| Please read the roadmap section below to see the planned development.
Consider that move when deciding upon your involvement in this project.
And here a video particularly about the reward system:
https://www.youtube.com/live/3G1pJqvO2VM?t=725
| This is effectively the full Nym token economics in action. We have
| users paying for the NymVPN by subscriptions. Those subscriptions are
| feeding into a buy order that gets triggered on the market. A buy order >>| buys Nym tokens that are then used to reward operators. So we see this
| full virtuous cycle here. So that's what we are all looking forward to. >>...
| Our aim with all these changes in the final vision for nym node rewards
| is that nym nodes are rewarded fairly, that you guys can make a profit
| and it is actually desirable to run a business as a nym infrastructure
| provider. We also would like to create a genuinely thriving independent >>| professional community of operators.
It's all about rewards, about making money ...
But I think they are behind schedule.
No matter, that offer smells rotten.
Stefan Claas wrote:
https://nym.com/docs/network/concepts
Master of repetitive misrepresentation, we don't want that once again.
There was an extensive discussion about SURBs within the thread
Subject: Meloni su Ramelli: "Tutti devono fare i conti con la vicenda
della sua morte"
Message-ID: <vuqgo1$1744$1@solani.org>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:29:56 +0200
...
Subject: Single Use Reply Blocks (SURBs)
Message-Id: <20250502.221208.1c0862cc@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>
...
where you had your chance.
Its conclusion in MID <89be7c92942c925d762793a63bed2508@dizum.com> was:
Hands off!
Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Stupid Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article <10qh19c$2cb07$2@news.tcpreset.net> Stefan Claas
<ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
Stefan Claas wrote:
Nym Mail wrote:
In the message body field add all the
required headers you normally
use, when sending anonymous messages,
followed by a blank line
and your message. You do not have to add
headers such as MIME etc.
because the NymMail server handles them,
meaning that you can
include UTF-8 chars in your Subject: too.
Why do you have to add headers in the message body, you may
ask?
NymMail is a global and decentralized anonymous email
infrastruture, powered by the Nym Mixnet, where nym-clients
communicate and where no smtp or nntp is used. This is
handled by the receiving server, using the nym-client too.
Too stupid to implement MIME, which results in a isolated system
incompatible with standard communication methods. Each his own
island.
You fail to understand!!! Modern Anonymity Systems no longer need
outdated RFCs and MIME stuff!!! The server only handles MIME etc.
for old fashioned classic email and Usenet postings, because
NymMail nor Go needs such stuff, because NymMail email messages
have UTF-8 support automatically build in, so that it is also the
reason, when you receive an anonymous NymMail email message that
it no longer contains any headers, like From: Subject: MIME etc.
How cool is that? :-) I say it is super cool, becaue when you send
email messages globally to people, regardless of their language,
the email messages will always been displayed properly and you
have anonymity, due to lack of RFC conform and outdated email
headers. :-)
So you think it's cool to ignore standards out of incompetence
and call it modern, though it's a huge step backwards, and a
step into isolation. Nevertheless, have fun with your crap!
I strongly believe that you are using outdated crap, which can't
keep up with modern Nym Mixnet innovations and that what makes
you angry and force you to reply in such a manner.
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle file attachments?
First of all, we don't need outdated email attachments, because
we can transfer much larger files with another modern Nym Mixnet
tool. :-) https://github.com/rachyandco/wormhole-nym
And the next non-standard wannabe protocol. They simply try to attack established communication methods to make money with their proprietary
bs.
And if we need ssh over the Nym Mixnet:
https://github.com/rachyandco/ssh-nym
You see, more and more modern Nym Mixnet innovations are comming and
your are not isolated, like you are with OmniMix. :-)
BTW, I still wonder why Mixmaster and/or YAMN aren't added to
Tails in a way to use its Tor port for packet forwarding through
Hidden Services. Why on earth is Fritz Wuehler the only one
capable of adding such a Hidden Service to his mail host?
But don't worry as we now have Nym Mailer (with SURB support), NymMail
(SURB support comming too) and Nike, which uses first the Tor Network
and then the Nym Mixnet.
Stefan Claas wrote:
But don't worry as we now have Nym Mailer (with SURB support), NymMail (SURB support comming too) and Nike, which uses first the Tor Network
and then the Nym Mixnet.
Nike can be used on Tails, Whonix, Qubes too (and Android, iOS).
https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk/Nike
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