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    From Mark Isaak@specimenNOSPAM@curioustaxon.omy.net to sci.bio.paleontology on Fri Mar 27 12:10:21 2026
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    Intriguing article in Nature (25 March 2026):
    "Oxygen supply through the tracheolarrComuscle system does not constrain insect gigantism"
    E.P. Snelling et al.

    They argue that an increase in tracheolar space with body size is so
    small (1.8-fold increase over a 10,000-fold increase in body weight)
    that diffusive oxygen transport would not constrain maximum body size.

    But I have seen only the abstract.
    --
    Mark Isaak
    "Wisdom begins when you discover the difference between 'That
    doesn't make sense' and 'I don't understand.'" - Mary Doria Russell

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  • From Mikko@mikko.levanto@iki.fi to sci.bio.paleontology on Sat Mar 28 11:13:21 2026
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    On 27/03/2026 21:10, Mark Isaak wrote:
    Oxygen supply through the tracheolarrComuscle system does not constrain insect gigantism

    According to the abstract the claim is based on paleontology. But there
    are other ways to test the claim: test different insects in different atmospheres.

    The claim does not meet that the thacheolar-muscle system sets to limit
    to the size of insects. It merely means that someting else sets limits
    it to even smaller. Possibilities include competition with smaller
    insects and other animals as well as visibility to various predators.
    --
    Mikko
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  • From Ruben Safir@mrbrklyn@panix.com to sci.bio.paleontology on Mon Mar 30 01:11:31 2026
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    Mark Isaak <specimenNOSPAM@curioustaxon.omy.net> wrote:
    Intriguing article in Nature (25 March 2026):
    "Oxygen supply through the tracheolar?muscle system does not constrain insect gigantism"
    E.P. Snelling et al.

    They argue that an increase in tracheolar space with body size is so
    small (1.8-fold increase over a 10,000-fold increase in body weight)
    that diffusive oxygen transport would not constrain maximum body size.

    But I have seen only the abstract.


    At some point it has to... it is simple math.

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  • From x@x@x.net to sci.bio.paleontology on Sun Mar 29 20:46:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.bio.paleontology

    On 3/29/26 18:11, Ruben Safir wrote:
    Mark Isaak <specimenNOSPAM@curioustaxon.omy.net> wrote:
    Intriguing article in Nature (25 March 2026):
    "Oxygen supply through the tracheolar?muscle system does not constrain
    insect gigantism"
    E.P. Snelling et al.

    They argue that an increase in tracheolar space with body size is so
    small (1.8-fold increase over a 10,000-fold increase in body weight)
    that diffusive oxygen transport would not constrain maximum body size.

    But I have seen only the abstract.


    At some point it has to... it is simple math.

    So there are chelicerates and there is mandibulata.

    Trilobites were neither chelicerates nor mandibulata?

    Wikipedia is growing more and more evil throughout time.

    If I type in the words 'Paleozoic Oxygenation Event'
    it does not nicely say 'you can edit' and 'this is
    how to create the page' but instantly screams 'Auto
    de fe'.

    So double checking, there were no air breathing land
    trilobites?




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  • From Popping Mad@rainbow@colition.gov to sci.bio.paleontology on Sun May 3 22:24:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.bio.paleontology

    On 3/29/26 11:46 PM, x wrote:
    On 3/29/26 18:11, Ruben Safir wrote:
    Mark Isaak <specimenNOSPAM@curioustaxon.omy.net> wrote:
    Intriguing article in Nature (25 March 2026):
    "Oxygen supply through the tracheolar?muscle system does not constrain
    insect gigantism"
    E.P. Snelling et al.

    They argue that an increase in tracheolar space with body size is so
    small (1.8-fold increase over a 10,000-fold increase in body weight)
    that diffusive oxygen transport would not constrain maximum body size.

    But I have seen only the abstract.


    At some point it has to... it is simple math.

    So there are chelicerates and there is mandibulata.

    Trilobites were neither chelicerates nor mandibulata?

    Wikipedia is growing more and more evil throughout time.

    If I type in the words 'Paleozoic Oxygenation Event'
    it does not nicely say 'you can edit' and 'this is
    how to create the page' but instantly screams 'Auto
    de fe'.

    So double checking, there were no air breathing land
    trilobites?




    https://www.palaeocast.com/insect-gigantism/
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