• The bland vegetarian junk space travelers might have to eat

    From Rich@rander3128@gmail.com to sci.astro.amateur on Wed Jan 3 00:08:19 2024
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    There is nothing as demoralizing to Westerners as a repetitive, bland diet. This could have real consequences for long-term space missions.

    https://phys.org/news/2024-01-meal-long-term-space.html

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  • From wsnell01@wsnell01@hotmail.com to sci.astro.amateur on Wed Jan 3 06:32:46 2024
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    On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 3:08:21rC>AM UTC-5, Rich wrote:
    There is nothing as demoralizing to Westerners as a repetitive, bland diet. This could have real consequences for long-term space missions.

    https://phys.org/news/2024-01-meal-long-term-space.html
    This has to rank among the least of their problems.
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  • From Rich@rander3128@gmail.com to sci.astro.amateur on Fri Jan 5 06:47:36 2024
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    On Wednesday 3 January 2024 at 09:32:48 UTC-5, W wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 3:08:21rC>AM UTC-5, Rich wrote:
    There is nothing as demoralizing to Westerners as a repetitive, bland diet. This could have real consequences for long-term space missions.

    https://phys.org/news/2024-01-meal-long-term-space.html
    This has to rank among the least of their problems.
    it's part of what will play on the psychological issues that will plague them. Unlike people orbiting Earth, who have a reasonable expectation of getting back down easily enough, they will be isolated.
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  • From Chris L Peterson@clp@alumni.caltech.edu to sci.astro.amateur on Fri Jan 5 10:22:17 2024
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    On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 00:08:19 -0800 (PST), Rich <rander3128@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    There is nothing as demoralizing to Westerners as a repetitive, bland diet. This could have real consequences for long-term space missions.

    https://phys.org/news/2024-01-meal-long-term-space.html

    The whole point of the article is that they are working on developing
    diets that are not bland or boring.
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  • From Quadibloc@jsavard@ecn.ab.ca to sci.astro.amateur on Fri Jan 5 13:30:17 2024
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    The reason it's vegetarian isn't political correctness, it's because there are difficulties with taking livestock into space. This was designed to be grown
    in space. So no doubt there will usually be frozen meat packaged for the astronauts - this is something for future long-duration missions.

    Maybe by then, they will be able at least to have a chicken farm on the spaceship! Or, if not, at least an aquarium for cod and sole.

    John Savard
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  • From Chris L Peterson@clp@alumni.caltech.edu to sci.astro.amateur on Fri Jan 5 16:01:37 2024
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    On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 13:30:17 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
    wrote:

    The reason it's vegetarian isn't political correctness, it's because there are >difficulties with taking livestock into space. This was designed to be grown >in space. So no doubt there will usually be frozen meat packaged for the >astronauts - this is something for future long-duration missions.

    Maybe by then, they will be able at least to have a chicken farm on the >spaceship! Or, if not, at least an aquarium for cod and sole.

    The future of meat is cultured, not raised. This will be a requirement
    on Earth for sustainability reasons, and will probably transfer nicely
    to space (assuming there is any significant human presence in space,
    which I think is unlikely).
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  • From Quadibloc@jsavard@ecn.ab.ca to sci.astro.amateur on Sat Jan 6 03:01:22 2024
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    On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 4:01:48rC>PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    The future of meat is cultured, not raised.
    Perhaps so, but I would think that is a rather distant future. Using
    present technology, meat produced that way is vastly more expensive
    than that produced by conventional methods.
    Of course, for space missions, cost is not really a factor.
    John Savard
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  • From Chris L Peterson@clp@alumni.caltech.edu to sci.astro.amateur on Sat Jan 6 07:56:12 2024
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    On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 03:01:22 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
    wrote:

    On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 4:01:48?PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:

    The future of meat is cultured, not raised.

    Perhaps so, but I would think that is a rather distant future. Using
    present technology, meat produced that way is vastly more expensive
    than that produced by conventional methods.

    Only because the technology is not quite here yet, and no economies of
    scale can be realized. Plus, the cost of meat is much higher than the
    price (the same market failure we see with fossil fuels). If we start
    taxing carbon and other pollutants to correct that market failure, the
    prices will be much higher and alternatives will be economically
    attractive.

    Insects are also a promising source of protein, and could be excellent
    as a food source in space.
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