• H or A habilis?

    From DDeden@user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sat Apr 4 02:37:08 2026
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    https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/human-evolution/homo-habilis-is-the-earliest-named-human-but-is-it-even-human

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    [NOTE: Both gibbons & H habilis share many unique traits (unlike any other extant hominoid): have long arms and long legs, are striding bipeds, have large brain per body weight and torso size, have long achilles tendon, have long back, have similar eyes, tend towards monogamy, sing duets, do not make individual arboreal loud long calls, have no laryngeal airsacs, and never construct arboreal bowl nests. DD]
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    Homo habilis is the earliest named human. But is it even human?
    By Colin Barras published 11 hours ago

    Between 2 million and 3 million years ago, humans appeared in Africa rCo but identifying them in the fossil record is turning out to be surprisingly difficult.


    For 60 years, the earliest known human species has also been one of the most mysterious. Homo habilis was added to our family tree in 1964. But it's long been unclear exactly what the ancient species, which lived between about 2.4 million and 1.65 million years ago, looked like. That's because, until recently, only three very incomplete fossilized skeletons had been unearthed.

    Then in January, researchers described a fourth, more complete skeleton rCo and it revealed that H. habilis had an anatomy very unlike our own. The discovery has some researchers asking a big question: Is the earliest known human ancestor not human after all?
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  • From Primum Sapienti@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sun Apr 12 22:44:31 2026
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    DDeden wrote:

    https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/human-evolution/homo-habilis-is-the-earliest-named-human-but-is-it-even-human

    Homo habilis is the earliest named human. But is it even human?
    By Colin Barras published 11 hours ago

    Thanks for this, had read mention of it but didn't pursue
    it (busy with other things)

    Better commentary here (as opposed to the popular press)

    https://www.science.org/content/article/earliest-homo-species-did-not-look-human-partial-skeleton-shows

    The earliest Homo species did not look human, partial
    skeleton shows

    Homo habilis, 2 million years old, was known mainly
    from teeth and jaw bones
    13 Jan 2026

    ...
    Scientists used to think H. habilis was the direct
    ancestor of H. erectus, a long-legged human ancestor
    that was the first to evolve a much larger brain
    1.6 million years or so ago. But recent discoveries
    suggest H. habilis shared the Rift Valley with other
    hominins that also made stone tools, and that
    toolmaking started 3.3 million years ago, which
    predates the emergence of our genus Homo. Furthermore,
    H. erectus appeared about 2 million years ago, well
    before H. habilis disappeared about 1.4 million years
    ago.
    ...
    Overall, the new skeletonrCOs proportions suggest the
    bigger, long-legged human body shape arose in H.
    erectus. It also hints that even as H. habilis was
    evolving a more modern skull and teeth, its body
    didnrCOt change as much. ThatrCOs further evidence that
    H. habilis didnrCOt evolve into H. erectus, says
    paleoanthropologist Carrie Mongle of Stony Brook,
    who is a co-author of the new study. Their
    dramatically different bodies rCLmean we either had
    extremely rapid evolution to a more modern H. erectus
    body, or that H. habilis is not a good candidate for
    the direct ancestor of H. erectus.rCY
    ...


    Another good commentary here (by Ian Tattersall!)

    https://anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.70145
    An identity for the inscrutable Homo habilis


    The (very technical) paper is here. They do conclude
    that habilias is in the Homo clade.

    https://anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.70100
    New partial skeleton of Homo habilis from the upper
    Burgi Member, Koobi Fora Formation, Ileret, Kenya

    "In sum, insofar as they are known, the H. habilis
    partial skeletons present a picture of postcranial
    anatomy that tends to differ from that of other
    members of our genus (with the caveat that the
    postcranial skeleton of H. rudolfensis is currently
    unknown). This seems to be particularly evident with
    reference to body proportions and the possible use of
    the upper limb. Such differences were a major
    consideration in Wood and Collard's (1999) suggestion
    that H. habilis might be more comfortably accommodated
    in the genus Australopithecus."

    "Of course, the preponderance of craniodental
    synapomorphies that specimens of H. habilis share
    with other members of the genus Homo clearly
    identifies this species as a member of the Homo
    clade (e.g., Mongle et al., 2023), even if most of
    its postcranial characteristics speak to a generally
    more primitive australopith grade of organization
    (the KNM-ER 64061 ischium appears to be a notable
    exception to this pattern). Moreover, the supposedly
    problematic ~200,000rCeyears thought to separate
    H. habilis from H. erectus in the 1980s is no longer
    relevant. The KNM-ER 42703 maxilla of H. habilis from
    the Okote Member of the Koobi Fora Formation is dated
    to 1.44rCeMa (Spoor et al., 2007), while the KNM-ER 2598
    H. erectus occipital (Wood, 1991) from the underlying
    upper Burgi Member has a confirmed age of >1.885rCeMa
    (Feibel et al., 1989; Hammond et al., 2021). Thus,
    H. erectus actually appears some 450,000rCeyears before
    H. habilis disappears from the fossil record."



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  • From DDeden@user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Fri Apr 17 06:45:34 2026
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    Primum Sapienti <invalide@invalid.invalid> posted:

    DDeden wrote:

    https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/human-evolution/homo-habilis-is-the-earliest-named-human-but-is-it-even-human

    Homo habilis is the earliest named human. But is it even human?
    By Colin Barras published 11 hours ago

    Thanks for this, had read mention of it but didn't pursue
    it (busy with other things)

    Better commentary here (as opposed to the popular press)

    https://www.science.org/content/article/earliest-homo-species-did-not-look-human-partial-skeleton-shows

    The earliest Homo species did not look human, partial
    skeleton shows

    Of course H habilis did not look like H sapiens. H georgicus has traits of both H habilis and H erectus.
    Your articles imply that since H habilis was alive after the oldest erectines that erectines couldn't have descended from H habilis, which is phony Creationist type of logic, like saying that human ancestors couldn't have been .
    monkeys or apes because are still alive.

    Homo habilis, 2 million years old, was known mainly
    from teeth and jaw bones
    13 Jan 2026

    ...
    Scientists used to think H. habilis was the direct
    ancestor of H. erectus, a long-legged human ancestor
    that was the first to evolve a much larger brain
    1.6 million years or so ago. But recent discoveries
    suggest H. habilis shared the Rift Valley with other
    hominins that also made stone tools, and that
    toolmaking started 3.3 million years ago, which
    predates the emergence of our genus Homo. Furthermore,
    H. erectus appeared about 2 million years ago, well
    before H. habilis disappeared about 1.4 million years
    ago.
    ...
    Overall, the new skeletonrCOs proportions suggest the
    bigger, long-legged human body shape arose in H.
    erectus. It also hints that even as H. habilis was
    evolving a more modern skull and teeth, its body
    didnrCOt change as much. ThatrCOs further evidence that
    H. habilis didnrCOt evolve into H. erectus, says
    paleoanthropologist Carrie Mongle of Stony Brook,
    who is a co-author of the new study. Their
    dramatically different bodies rCLmean we either had
    extremely rapid evolution to a more modern H. erectus
    body, or that H. habilis is not a good candidate for
    the direct ancestor of H. erectus.rCY
    ...


    Another good commentary here (by Ian Tattersall!)

    https://anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.70145
    An identity for the inscrutable Homo habilis


    The (very technical) paper is here. They do conclude
    that habilias is in the Homo clade.

    https://anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.70100
    New partial skeleton of Homo habilis from the upper
    Burgi Member, Koobi Fora Formation, Ileret, Kenya

    "In sum, insofar as they are known, the H. habilis
    partial skeletons present a picture of postcranial
    anatomy that tends to differ from that of other
    members of our genus (with the caveat that the
    postcranial skeleton of H. rudolfensis is currently
    unknown). This seems to be particularly evident with
    reference to body proportions and the possible use of
    the upper limb. Such differences were a major
    consideration in Wood and Collard's (1999) suggestion
    that H. habilis might be more comfortably accommodated
    in the genus Australopithecus."

    "Of course, the preponderance of craniodental
    synapomorphies that specimens of H. habilis share
    with other members of the genus Homo clearly
    identifies this species as a member of the Homo
    clade (e.g., Mongle et al., 2023), even if most of
    its postcranial characteristics speak to a generally
    more primitive australopith grade of organization
    (the KNM-ER 64061 ischium appears to be a notable
    exception to this pattern). Moreover, the supposedly
    problematic ~200,000rCeyears thought to separate
    H. habilis from H. erectus in the 1980s is no longer
    relevant. The KNM-ER 42703 maxilla of H. habilis from
    the Okote Member of the Koobi Fora Formation is dated
    to 1.44rCeMa (Spoor et al., 2007), while the KNM-ER 2598
    H. erectus occipital (Wood, 1991) from the underlying
    upper Burgi Member has a confirmed age of >1.885rCeMa
    (Feibel et al., 1989; Hammond et al., 2021). Thus,
    H. erectus actually appears some 450,000rCeyears before
    H. habilis disappears from the fossil record."



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