• Earth's magnetic pole shift: Sunscreen, clothes, caves may have helped Homo sapiens survive 41kya

    From Primum Sapienti@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Fri Apr 18 23:48:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.anthropology.paleo


    https://phys.org/news/2025-04-earth-magnetic-pole-shift-sunscreen.html

    Ancient Homo sapiens may have benefited
    from sunscreen, tailored clothes and the
    use of caves during the shifting of the
    magnetic North Pole over Europe about
    41,000 years ago, new University of
    Michigan research shows.

    These technologies could have protected
    Homo sapiens living in Europe from harmful
    solar radiation. Neanderthals, on the
    other hand, appear to have lacked these
    technologies and disappeared around 40,000
    years ago, according to the study,
    published in Science Advances and led by
    researchers at Michigan Engineering and
    the U-M Department of Anthropology.

    The team found that the North Pole wandered
    over Europe when the magnetic field's poles
    started to flip positions, a natural process
    that has happened around 180 times over
    Earth's geological history. While the
    magnetic reversal didn't complete at the
    time, the magnetic field weakened to cause
    aurora to occur over most of the globe, and
    allowed more harmful UV light to come in from
    space.

    Around the same time, Homo sapiens appear to
    have started making tailored clothing and
    using ochre, a mineral that has sun-protective
    properties when applied to the skin, with
    greater frequency. These behaviors could have
    contributed to their spread throughout Europe
    and Asia at a time when the Neanderthal
    population was declining.

    "In the study, we combined all of the regions
    where the magnetic field would not have been
    connected, allowing cosmic radiation, or any
    kind of energetic particles from the sun, to
    seep all the way in to the ground," said Agnit
    Mukhopadhyay, lead author and U-M research
    affiliate in climate and space sciences and
    engineering.

    "We found that many of those regions actually
    match pretty closely with early human activity
    from 41,000 years ago, specifically an increase
    in the use of caves and an increase in the use
    of prehistoric sunscreen."
    ...


    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adq7275
    Wandering of the auroral oval 41,000 years ago


    Abstract
    In the recent geological past, EarthrCOs magnetic
    field reduced to ~10% of the modern values and
    the magnetic poles shifted away from the
    geographic poles, causing the Laschamps
    geomagnetic excursion, about 41 millennia ago.
    The excursion lasted ~2000 years, with dipole
    strength reduction and tilting spanning 300
    years. During this period, the geomagnetic
    fieldrCOs multipolarity resembled outer planets,
    causing rapid magnetospheric changes. To our
    knowledge, this study presents the first space
    plasma analysis of the excursion, linking the
    geomagnetic field, magnetospheric system, and
    upper atmosphere in sequence using feedback
    channels for distinct temporal epochs. A
    three-dimensional reconstruction of EarthrCOs
    geospace system shows that these shifts
    affected auroral regions and open magnetic
    field lines, causing them to expand and wander
    toward lower latitudes. These changes likely
    altered the upper atmosphererCOs composition and
    influenced anthropological progress during
    that era. Looking through a modern lens, such
    an event would disrupt contemporary technology,
    including communications and satellite
    infrastructure.




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  • From Mikko@mikko.levanto@iki.fi to sci.anthropology.paleo on Mon Apr 21 13:50:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.anthropology.paleo

    On 2025-04-19 05:48:02 +0000, Primum Sapienti said:

    https://phys.org/news/2025-04-earth-magnetic-pole-shift-sunscreen.html

    The team found that the North Pole wandered
    over Europe when the magnetic field's poles
    started to flip positions, a natural process
    that has happened around 180 times over
    Earth's geological history. While the
    magnetic reversal didn't complete at the
    time, the magnetic field weakened to cause
    aurora to occur over most of the globe, and
    allowed more harmful UV light to come in from
    space.

    Presence or absence of aurora borealis does not significantly affect
    UV radiation from space. Most UV comes from Sun. Auroras themselves
    produce some ultraviolet but much less that Sun. Air under auroras
    stops most of UVB and all of UVC, which are more harmful than UVA and
    visible light.

    Around the same time, Homo sapiens appear to
    have started making tailored clothing and
    using ochre, a mineral that has sun-protective
    properties when applied to the skin, with
    greater frequency. These behaviors could have
    contributed to their spread throughout Europe
    and Asia at a time when the Neanderthal
    population was declining.

    Another possibility is that Europe received enough immigrants from more
    densely populated areas to compensate the greater mortality, be it caused
    by auroras or coldness or something else.
    --
    Mikko

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  • From erik simpson@eastside.erik@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Mon Apr 21 14:58:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.anthropology.paleo

    On 4/18/25 10:48 PM, Primum Sapienti wrote:

    https://phys.org/news/2025-04-earth-magnetic-pole-shift-sunscreen.html

    Ancient Homo sapiens may have benefited
    from sunscreen, tailored clothes and the
    use of caves during the shifting of the
    magnetic North Pole over Europe about
    41,000 years ago, new University of
    Michigan research shows.

    These technologies could have protected
    Homo sapiens living in Europe from harmful
    solar radiation. Neanderthals, on the
    other hand, appear to have lacked these
    technologies and disappeared around 40,000
    years ago, according to the study,
    published in Science Advances and led by
    researchers at Michigan Engineering and
    the U-M Department of Anthropology.

    The team found that the North Pole wandered
    over Europe when the magnetic field's poles
    started to flip positions, a natural process
    that has happened around 180 times over
    Earth's geological history. While the
    magnetic reversal didn't complete at the
    time, the magnetic field weakened to cause
    aurora to occur over most of the globe, and
    allowed more harmful UV light to come in from
    space.

    Around the same time, Homo sapiens appear to
    have started making tailored clothing and
    using ochre, a mineral that has sun-protective
    properties when applied to the skin, with
    greater frequency. These behaviors could have
    contributed to their spread throughout Europe
    and Asia at a time when the Neanderthal
    population was declining.

    "In the study, we combined all of the regions
    where the magnetic field would not have been
    connected, allowing cosmic radiation, or any
    kind of energetic particles from the sun, to
    seep all the way in to the ground," said Agnit
    Mukhopadhyay, lead author and U-M research
    affiliate in climate and space sciences and
    engineering.

    "We found that many of those regions actually
    match pretty closely with early human activity
    from 41,000 years ago, specifically an increase
    in the use of caves and an increase in the use
    of prehistoric sunscreen."
    ...


    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adq7275
    Wandering of the auroral oval 41,000 years ago


    Abstract
    In the recent geological past, EarthrCOs magnetic
    field reduced to ~10% of the modern values and
    the magnetic poles shifted away from the
    geographic poles, causing the Laschamps
    geomagnetic excursion, about 41 millennia ago.
    The excursion lasted ~2000 years, with dipole
    strength reduction and tilting spanning 300
    years. During this period, the geomagnetic
    fieldrCOs multipolarity resembled outer planets,
    causing rapid magnetospheric changes. To our
    knowledge, this study presents the first space
    plasma analysis of the excursion, linking the
    geomagnetic field, magnetospheric system, and
    upper atmosphere in sequence using feedback
    channels for distinct temporal epochs. A
    three-dimensional reconstruction of EarthrCOs
    geospace system shows that these shifts
    affected auroral regions and open magnetic
    field lines, causing them to expand and wander
    toward lower latitudes. These changes likely
    altered the upper atmosphererCOs composition and
    influenced anthropological progress during
    that era. Looking through a modern lens, such
    an event would disrupt contemporary technology,
    including communications and satellite
    infrastructure.




    Earth's magnetic field reversals are not that infrequent. To some
    extent this looks like an explanation in search of a problem. Did Neanderthals really die of sunburn?
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  • From Primum Sapienti@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sun May 4 22:54:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.anthropology.paleo

    Mikko wrote:
    On 2025-04-19 05:48:02 +0000, Primum Sapienti said:

    https://phys.org/news/2025-04-earth-magnetic-pole-shift-sunscreen.html

    The team found that the North Pole wandered
    over Europe when the magnetic field's poles
    started to flip positions, a natural process
    that has happened around 180 times over
    Earth's geological history. While the
    magnetic reversal didn't complete at the
    time, the magnetic field weakened to cause
    aurora to occur over most of the globe, and
    allowed more harmful UV light to come in from
    space.

    Presence or absence of aurora borealis does not significantly affect
    UV radiation from space. Most UV comes from Sun. Auroras themselves
    produce some ultraviolet but much less that Sun. Air under auroras
    stops most of UVB and all of UVC, which are more harmful than UVA and
    visible light.

    Around the same time, Homo sapiens appear to
    have started making tailored clothing and
    using ochre, a mineral that has sun-protective
    properties when applied to the skin, with
    greater frequency. These behaviors could have
    contributed to their spread throughout Europe
    and Asia at a time when the Neanderthal
    population was declining.

    Another possibility is that Europe received enough immigrants from more densely populated areas to compensate the greater mortality, be it caused
    by auroras or coldness or something else.

    I'm in the middle of Steven LeBlanc's "Constant
    Battles", pub 2003. Dated a bit, I suppose, but
    does have a lot of useful odds and ends. (The
    relating of Eskimo warfare was something else,
    they were willing to spend 10 or more days
    traveling to kill another group.)

    The migrants may well have had a tech edge in a
    time of changing climate etc as well as no
    compunctions about knocking off the current
    tenants.


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  • From Primum Sapienti@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sun May 4 22:57:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.anthropology.paleo

    erik simpson wrote:
    On 4/18/25 10:48 PM, Primum Sapienti wrote:

    https://phys.org/news/2025-04-earth-magnetic-pole-shift-sunscreen.html

    Ancient Homo sapiens may have benefited
    from sunscreen, tailored clothes and the
    use of caves during the shifting of the
    magnetic North Pole over Europe about
    41,000 years ago, new University of
    Michigan research shows.

    These technologies could have protected
    Homo sapiens living in Europe from harmful
    solar radiation. Neanderthals, on the
    other hand, appear to have lacked these
    technologies and disappeared around 40,000
    years ago, according to the study,
    published in Science Advances and led by
    researchers at Michigan Engineering and
    the U-M Department of Anthropology.

    The team found that the North Pole wandered
    over Europe when the magnetic field's poles
    started to flip positions, a natural process
    that has happened around 180 times over
    Earth's geological history. While the
    magnetic reversal didn't complete at the
    time, the magnetic field weakened to cause
    aurora to occur over most of the globe, and
    allowed more harmful UV light to come in from
    space.

    Around the same time, Homo sapiens appear to
    have started making tailored clothing and
    using ochre, a mineral that has sun-protective
    properties when applied to the skin, with
    greater frequency. These behaviors could have
    contributed to their spread throughout Europe
    and Asia at a time when the Neanderthal
    population was declining.

    "In the study, we combined all of the regions
    where the magnetic field would not have been
    connected, allowing cosmic radiation, or any
    kind of energetic particles from the sun, to
    seep all the way in to the ground," said Agnit
    Mukhopadhyay, lead author and U-M research
    affiliate in climate and space sciences and
    engineering.

    "We found that many of those regions actually
    match pretty closely with early human activity
    from 41,000 years ago, specifically an increase
    in the use of caves and an increase in the use
    of prehistoric sunscreen."
    ...


    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adq7275
    Wandering of the auroral oval 41,000 years ago


    Abstract
    In the recent geological past, EarthrCOs magnetic
    field reduced to ~10% of the modern values and
    the magnetic poles shifted away from the
    geographic poles, causing the Laschamps
    geomagnetic excursion, about 41 millennia ago.
    The excursion lasted ~2000 years, with dipole
    strength reduction and tilting spanning 300
    years. During this period, the geomagnetic
    fieldrCOs multipolarity resembled outer planets,
    causing rapid magnetospheric changes. To our
    knowledge, this study presents the first space
    plasma analysis of the excursion, linking the
    geomagnetic field, magnetospheric system, and
    upper atmosphere in sequence using feedback
    channels for distinct temporal epochs. A
    three-dimensional reconstruction of EarthrCOs
    geospace system shows that these shifts
    affected auroral regions and open magnetic
    field lines, causing them to expand and wander
    toward lower latitudes. These changes likely
    altered the upper atmosphererCOs composition and
    influenced anthropological progress during
    that era. Looking through a modern lens, such
    an event would disrupt contemporary technology,
    including communications and satellite
    infrastructure.

    Earth's magnetic field reversals are not that infrequent.-a To some
    extent this looks like an explanation in search of a problem.-a Did Neanderthals really die of sunburn?

    A correlation without adequate causation. It
    may be a coincidence of timing. A starting
    point if nothing else.
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  • From Primum Sapienti@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sun May 4 23:04:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.anthropology.paleo

    Primum Sapienti wrote:
    Mikko wrote:
    On 2025-04-19 05:48:02 +0000, Primum Sapienti said:

    https://phys.org/news/2025-04-earth-magnetic-pole-shift-sunscreen.html


    Another possibility is that Europe received enough immigrants from more
    densely populated areas to compensate the greater mortality, be it caused
    by auroras or coldness or something else.

    I'm in the middle of Steven LeBlanc's "Constant
    Battles", pub 2003. Dated a bit, I suppose, but
    does have a lot of useful odds and ends. (The
    relating of Eskimo warfare was something else,
    they were willing to spend 10 or more days
    traveling to kill another group.)

    The migrants may well have had a tech edge in a
    time of changing climate etc as well as no
    compunctions about knocking off the current
    tenants.

    Meant to include this

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1038/s41598-025-94095-x
    Projectile weapon injuries in the Riparo
    Tagliente burial (Veneto, Italy) provide
    early evidence of Late Upper Paleolithic
    intergroup conflict

    The dates are too young - 17Kya to 15.5kya - for
    the neanderthal scenario but old enough to suggest
    warfare, raids, etc. Neanderthals may not have
    had the reproductive replacement capcacity to
    compensate for population losses. In such conflicts
    it not unusual for the women of attacked groups
    to be taken alive which could explain admixture
    of genes.

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  • From Mikko@mikko.levanto@iki.fi to sci.anthropology.paleo on Mon May 5 12:31:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.anthropology.paleo

    On 2025-05-05 04:54:48 +0000, Primum Sapienti said:

    Mikko wrote:
    On 2025-04-19 05:48:02 +0000, Primum Sapienti said:

    https://phys.org/news/2025-04-earth-magnetic-pole-shift-sunscreen.html

    The team found that the North Pole wandered
    over Europe when the magnetic field's poles
    started to flip positions, a natural process
    that has happened around 180 times over
    Earth's geological history. While the
    magnetic reversal didn't complete at the
    time, the magnetic field weakened to cause
    aurora to occur over most of the globe, and
    allowed more harmful UV light to come in from
    space.

    Presence or absence of aurora borealis does not significantly affect
    UV radiation from space. Most UV comes from Sun. Auroras themselves
    produce some ultraviolet but much less that Sun. Air under auroras
    stops most of UVB and all of UVC, which are more harmful than UVA and
    visible light.

    Around the same time, Homo sapiens appear to
    have started making tailored clothing and
    using ochre, a mineral that has sun-protective
    properties when applied to the skin, with
    greater frequency. These behaviors could have
    contributed to their spread throughout Europe
    and Asia at a time when the Neanderthal
    population was declining.

    Another possibility is that Europe received enough immigrants from more
    densely populated areas to compensate the greater mortality, be it caused
    by auroras or coldness or something else.

    I'm in the middle of Steven LeBlanc's "Constant
    Battles", pub 2003. Dated a bit, I suppose, but
    does have a lot of useful odds and ends. (The
    relating of Eskimo warfare was something else,
    they were willing to spend 10 or more days
    traveling to kill another group.)

    The migrants may well have had a tech edge in a
    time of changing climate etc as well as no
    compunctions about knocking off the current
    tenants.

    One important point to consider is that the first Eoropean Homo
    sapiens sapiens did not survive. Whether the last of them died
    at the same time or for the same cause is not clear. Diseases
    of the immmigrants from Asia is a good guess for both.
    --
    Mikko

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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Tue May 6 17:52:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.anthropology.paleo

    On 5/5/25 5:31 AM, Mikko wrote:

    One important point to consider is that the first Eoropean Homo
    sapiens sapiens did not survive. Whether the last of them died
    at the same time or for the same cause is not clear. Diseases
    of the immmigrants from Asia is a good guess for both.


    Mikko? LOVED your theme from Star Wars! Omg, such a treat to see
    you posting here...

    They never died out. They were absorbed. Yes that means any of
    their DNA is all but impossible to find in modern Europeans but,
    hey, thems the breaks...

    A man who has only daughters has in a single generation wiped
    out half of his DNA, including all of his mtDNA and his y chromosome.

    Both of those are gone... in a single generation.

    IF there's twice as many of them as there are of you, over time
    pretty much all of your side's DNA is going to be gone.

    And this is exactly what happened many, many times.
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  • From Primum Sapienti@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Tue May 6 23:09:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.anthropology.paleo

    Mikko wrote:
    On 2025-05-05 04:54:48 +0000, Primum Sapienti said:

    Mikko wrote:

    I'm in the middle of Steven LeBlanc's "Constant
    Battles", pub 2003. Dated a bit, I suppose, but
    does have a lot of useful odds and ends. (The
    relating of Eskimo warfare was something else,
    they were willing to spend 10 or more days
    traveling to kill another group.)

    The migrants may well have had a tech edge in a
    time of changing climate etc as well as no
    compunctions about knocking off the current
    tenants.

    One important point to consider is that the first Eoropean Homo
    sapiens sapiens did not survive. Whether the last of them died
    at the same time or for the same cause is not clear. Diseases
    of the immmigrants from Asia is a good guess for both.

    Disease can/could certainly be a factor. LeBlanc makes
    the observation that populations tended to be too small
    and dispersed (i.e., low density) such that anything
    like an epidemic was not likely. So postulating
    disease impacts like that may not be tenable without
    better evidence. He (LeBlanc)relates that archaeological
    and historical evidence show warfare/fighting death
    rates were like 25% of adult males over their adult
    lives and up to 5% of women (not to mention children).
    He appears to be citing Keeley's 1996 "War Before
    Civilization". (that's always been on my list-to-get
    but never very high - til now ;)

    Losses like that would definitely have an impact.



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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Wed May 7 14:33:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.anthropology.paleo

    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    Mikko wrote:
    One important point to consider is that the first Eoropean Homo
    sapiens sapiens did not survive. Whether the last of them died
    at the same time or for the same cause is not clear. Diseases
    of the immmigrants from Asia is a good guess for both.

    Disease can/could certainly be a factor. LeBlanc makes
    the observation that populations tended to be too small
    and dispersed (i.e., low density) such that anything
    like an epidemic was not likely. So postulating
    disease impacts like that may not be tenable without
    better evidence. He (LeBlanc)relates that archaeological
    and historical evidence show warfare/fighting death
    rates were like 25% of adult males over their adult
    lives and up to 5% of women (not to mention children).
    He appears to be citing Keeley's 1996 "War Before
    Civilization". (that's always been on my list-to-get
    but never very high - til now ;)

    It's a dumb premise to start with, this idea that they
    were wiped out.

    Check this out:

    https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/mitochondrial-dna-and-human-evolution-1987-rebecca-louise-cann-mark-stoneking-and-allan

    The story is false. The original study used African Americans
    as their "African" population. Of course there was CENTURIES
    on interbreeding between white Europeans and black African
    slaves in America, yet they used African Americans as their
    African subjects. Wow. AND their findings held when the
    work was later repeated using African subjects!

    I argue against how they interpreted their finding but, what
    is important here is that everything you are saying here,
    everything you are replying to is based on the exact opposite
    assumption of the original study, and that original study was
    upheld by a later study.

    Get? The original "Out of Africa/Eve II" study assumed that
    African American subjects could be used in place of people
    in Africa, as their African representatives, despite centuries
    of interbreeding, and the claim is that this assumption was
    upheld. The study was repeated and the findings upheld.

    You are "Arguing" the exact opposite.
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Thu May 8 01:34:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.anthropology.paleo

    JTEM wrote:

    -aPrimum Sapienti wrote:

    Mikko wrote:
    One important point to consider is that the first Eoropean Homo
    sapiens sapiens did not survive. Whether the last of them died
    at the same time or for the same cause is not clear. Diseases
    of the immmigrants from Asia is a good guess for both.

    Disease can/could certainly be a factor. LeBlanc makes
    the observation that populations tended to be too small
    and dispersed (i.e., low density) such that anything
    like an epidemic was not likely. So postulating
    disease impacts like that may not be tenable without
    better evidence. He (LeBlanc)relates that archaeological
    and historical evidence show warfare/fighting death
    rates were like 25% of adult males over their adult
    lives and up to 5% of women (not to mention children).
    He appears to be citing Keeley's 1996 "War Before
    Civilization". (that's always been on my list-to-get
    but never very high - til now ;)

    It's a dumb premise to start with, this idea that they
    were wiped out.

    Check this out:

    https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/mitochondrial-dna-and-human-evolution-1987- rebecca-louise-cann-mark-stoneking-and-allan

    The story is false. The original study used African Americans
    as their "African" population. Of course there was CENTURIES
    on interbreeding between white Europeans and black African
    slaves in America, yet they used African Americans as their
    African subjects. Wow. AND their findings held when the
    work was later repeated using African subjects!

    The original study took place in the 1980s, was first published in
    1987 and this cite gives a date of... WHEN?!?!?

    The point here is that the work was originally based on the fact
    that interbreeding does not necessarily show in DNA testing, and
    this was a fact upheld in a later studying using actual African
    subjects instead of African Americans.

    So that much was solid science.

    AND THEN "science" or, more accurately put, "The media" cast aside
    what it knew and assumed the opposite... in the case of Neanderthals.

    We we've had proof that DNA does not work the way we want it to, and
    we've had this proof since the 1980s, but you're proving that so called "Science" is dogmatically clinging to the debunked linear model that
    you are talking about.
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  • From erik simpson@eastside.erik@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Thu May 8 16:17:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.anthropology.paleo

    On 5/4/25 9:57 PM, Primum Sapienti wrote:
    erik simpson wrote:
    On 4/18/25 10:48 PM, Primum Sapienti wrote:

    https://phys.org/news/2025-04-earth-magnetic-pole-shift-sunscreen.html

    Ancient Homo sapiens may have benefited
    from sunscreen, tailored clothes and the
    use of caves during the shifting of the
    magnetic North Pole over Europe about
    41,000 years ago, new University of
    Michigan research shows.

    These technologies could have protected
    Homo sapiens living in Europe from harmful
    solar radiation. Neanderthals, on the
    other hand, appear to have lacked these
    technologies and disappeared around 40,000
    years ago, according to the study,
    published in Science Advances and led by
    researchers at Michigan Engineering and
    the U-M Department of Anthropology.

    The team found that the North Pole wandered
    over Europe when the magnetic field's poles
    started to flip positions, a natural process
    that has happened around 180 times over
    Earth's geological history. While the
    magnetic reversal didn't complete at the
    time, the magnetic field weakened to cause
    aurora to occur over most of the globe, and
    allowed more harmful UV light to come in from
    space.

    Around the same time, Homo sapiens appear to
    have started making tailored clothing and
    using ochre, a mineral that has sun-protective
    properties when applied to the skin, with
    greater frequency. These behaviors could have
    contributed to their spread throughout Europe
    and Asia at a time when the Neanderthal
    population was declining.

    "In the study, we combined all of the regions
    where the magnetic field would not have been
    connected, allowing cosmic radiation, or any
    kind of energetic particles from the sun, to
    seep all the way in to the ground," said Agnit
    Mukhopadhyay, lead author and U-M research
    affiliate in climate and space sciences and
    engineering.

    "We found that many of those regions actually
    match pretty closely with early human activity
    from 41,000 years ago, specifically an increase
    in the use of caves and an increase in the use
    of prehistoric sunscreen."
    ...


    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adq7275
    Wandering of the auroral oval 41,000 years ago


    Abstract
    In the recent geological past, EarthrCOs magnetic
    field reduced to ~10% of the modern values and
    the magnetic poles shifted away from the
    geographic poles, causing the Laschamps
    geomagnetic excursion, about 41 millennia ago.
    The excursion lasted ~2000 years, with dipole
    strength reduction and tilting spanning 300
    years. During this period, the geomagnetic
    fieldrCOs multipolarity resembled outer planets,
    causing rapid magnetospheric changes. To our
    knowledge, this study presents the first space
    plasma analysis of the excursion, linking the
    geomagnetic field, magnetospheric system, and
    upper atmosphere in sequence using feedback
    channels for distinct temporal epochs. A
    three-dimensional reconstruction of EarthrCOs
    geospace system shows that these shifts
    affected auroral regions and open magnetic
    field lines, causing them to expand and wander
    toward lower latitudes. These changes likely
    altered the upper atmosphererCOs composition and
    influenced anthropological progress during
    that era. Looking through a modern lens, such
    an event would disrupt contemporary technology,
    including communications and satellite
    infrastructure.

    Earth's magnetic field reversals are not that infrequent.-a To some
    extent this looks like an explanation in search of a problem.-a Did
    Neanderthals really die of sunburn?

    A correlation without adequate causation. It
    may be a coincidence of timing. A starting
    point if nothing else.
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  • From Primum Sapienti@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Fri May 9 22:56:11 2025
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    erik simpson wrote:
    On 5/4/25 9:57 PM, Primum Sapienti wrote:
    erik simpson wrote:

    This is the last message I see, but there are apparently 2(?) more that won't load. Please repeat.

    I'll repost the two others I made
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  • From Primum Sapienti@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Fri May 9 22:57:44 2025
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    repost from May 4

    Primum Sapienti wrote:
    Mikko wrote:
    On 2025-04-19 05:48:02 +0000, Primum Sapienti said:

    https://phys.org/news/2025-04-earth-magnetic-pole-shift-sunscreen.html


    Another possibility is that Europe received enough immigrants from more
    densely populated areas to compensate the greater mortality, be it
    caused
    by auroras or coldness or something else.

    I'm in the middle of Steven LeBlanc's "Constant
    Battles", pub 2003. Dated a bit, I suppose, but
    does have a lot of useful odds and ends. (The
    relating of Eskimo warfare was something else,
    they were willing to spend 10 or more days
    traveling to kill another group.)

    The migrants may well have had a tech edge in a
    time of changing climate etc as well as no
    compunctions about knocking off the current
    tenants.

    Meant to include this

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1038/s41598-025-94095-x
    Projectile weapon injuries in the Riparo
    Tagliente burial (Veneto, Italy) provide
    early evidence of Late Upper Paleolithic
    intergroup conflict

    The dates are too young - 17Kya to 15.5kya - for
    the neanderthal scenario but old enough to suggest
    warfare, raids, etc. Neanderthals may not have
    had the reproductive replacement capcacity to
    compensate for population losses. In such conflicts
    it not unusual for the women of attacked groups
    to be taken alive which could explain admixture
    of genes.

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  • From Primum Sapienti@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Fri May 9 22:58:28 2025
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    repost from May 6

    Mikko wrote:
    On 2025-05-05 04:54:48 +0000, Primum Sapienti said:

    Mikko wrote:

    I'm in the middle of Steven LeBlanc's "Constant
    Battles", pub 2003. Dated a bit, I suppose, but
    does have a lot of useful odds and ends. (The
    relating of Eskimo warfare was something else,
    they were willing to spend 10 or more days
    traveling to kill another group.)

    The migrants may well have had a tech edge in a
    time of changing climate etc as well as no
    compunctions about knocking off the current
    tenants.

    One important point to consider is that the first Eoropean Homo
    sapiens sapiens did not survive. Whether the last of them died
    at the same time or for the same cause is not clear. Diseases
    of the immmigrants from Asia is a good guess for both.

    Disease can/could certainly be a factor. LeBlanc makes
    the observation that populations tended to be too small
    and dispersed (i.e., low density) such that anything
    like an epidemic was not likely. So postulating
    disease impacts like that may not be tenable without
    better evidence. He (LeBlanc)relates that archaeological
    and historical evidence show warfare/fighting death
    rates were like 25% of adult males over their adult
    lives and up to 5% of women (not to mention children).
    He appears to be citing Keeley's 1996 "War Before
    Civilization". (that's always been on my list-to-get
    but never very high - til now ;)

    Losses like that would definitely have an impact.


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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sat May 10 01:13:24 2025
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    Primum Sapienti wrote:


    repost from May 6

    Mikko wrote:
    On 2025-05-05 04:54:48 +0000, Primum Sapienti said:

    Mikko wrote:

    I'm in the middle of Steven LeBlanc's "Constant
    Battles", pub 2003. Dated a bit, I suppose, but
    does have a lot of useful odds and ends. (The
    relating of Eskimo warfare was something else,
    they were willing to spend 10 or more days
    traveling to kill another group.)

    The migrants may well have had a tech edge in a
    time of changing climate etc as well as no
    compunctions about knocking off the current
    tenants.

    One important point to consider is that the first Eoropean Homo
    sapiens sapiens did not survive. Whether the last of them died
    at the same time or for the same cause is not clear. Diseases
    of the immmigrants from Asia is a good guess for both.

    Disease can/could certainly be a factor. LeBlanc makes

    Again, it's stupid. Nobody "Died Out." They were absorbed. Everyone
    alive today has ancestors that lived at that time. Everyone of
    European descent has European ancestors from that time. Yes their
    DNA has been masked but that's normal and expected.
    --
    https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
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