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    From Primum Sapienti@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sun Apr 6 23:22:28 2025
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    https://www.science.org/content/article/uniquely-human-language-capacity-found-bonobos

    Human language can combine words to create
    an infinite number of meaningsrCoan ability
    that gives language its expressive power and
    sets it apart from the communication of other
    animals. Now, researchers have found a more
    modest version of this ability in bonobos,
    our closest living relative. The apes can
    combine different calls to create new
    meanings, the team reports this week in
    Science.
    ...
    Previous studies have found that other animal
    species can combine their calls, but only in
    rCLtrivialrCY combinations that simply add the
    meanings together. Human language is much more
    powerful: Speakers can combine words into more
    than the sum of their parts. For instance,
    rCLtall cookrCY is a trivial combinationrCoit means
    someone who is tall and a cook. But rCLgood cookrCY
    is not someone who is good and a cook: They
    might be good at cooking, but terrible in
    other areasrCoperhaps a dangerous driver. This
    combination of words generates a new meaning.
    ...
    To find out whether bonobos are capable of making
    these rCLnontrivialrCY combinations, University of
    Z|+rich (UZH) animal communication researcher
    M|-lissa Berthet spent 8 months following wild
    bonobo groups in the Kokolopori Bonobo Reserve
    in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Every
    day, she and her guides set out at about 4 a.m.
    to find the bonobos before they left their
    overnight nests, then tracked them all day.
    Whenever she had a clear view of their
    activities, she recorded every vocalization,
    along with all its context: who made it, what
    they were doing, how other animals responded,
    and even what the weather was like. Any number
    of more than 300 contextual features could be
    linked with each call. Eventually, Berthet
    started to understand some of what the animals
    were communicating: rCLYou see a vocalization
    and then everybody moves rCa and itrCOs very
    satisfying to be like, rCyAh, I think I start to
    get it,rCOrCY she says.

    Berthet recorded 700 different vocalizations,
    many of which were combinations of two
    distinct calls, like rCLwhistle and peeprCY or
    rCLhigh hoot and low hoot.rCY To see whether the
    animals were creating new meanings from these
    combinations, the team borrowed an approach
    from human language studies, statistically
    analyzing how much context the vocalizations
    shared with each other. (In human language,
    words that occur in similar contexts tend to
    be more closely related in meaning.)

    Three combinations stood out: Their meanings
    appeared different enough from those of their
    constituent calls that they seemed to count
    as nontrivial combinations. rCLHigh hoot and
    low hootrCY was one of these. rCLLow hoot,rCY the
    team found, is often used in situations of
    high excitement, and appears to mean
    something like rCLI am excited.rCY rCLHigh hootrCY is
    used when bonobos want to alert others to
    their presence and may mean rCLPay attention to
    me.rCY But the combination of the two calls
    doesnrCOt simply mean rCLI am excited, pay
    attention to merCY; instead, it conveys a more
    nuanced message. It is used specifically when
    another individual is putting on an aggressive
    display. The bonobo using this call
    combination might be trying to stop the other
    individual from displaying or get others in
    the group to pay attention to the caller, the
    authors suggest.

    The findings suggest bonobos have a
    rCLprecursorrCY to the human capacity to combine
    units of language to create new meanings, says
    senior author Simon Townsend, a primate
    communication researcher at UZH. Both bonobos
    and humans may have inherited the ability from
    our common ancestor some 7 million years ago,
    he says.
    ...




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  • From Mario Petrinovic@mario.petrinovic1@zg.htnet.hr to sci.anthropology.paleo on Tue Apr 8 15:27:13 2025
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    On 7.4.2025. 7:22, Primum Sapienti wrote:

    https://www.science.org/content/article/uniquely-human-language- capacity-found-bonobos

    Human language can combine words to create
    an infinite number of meaningsrCoan ability
    that gives language its expressive power and
    sets it apart from the communication of other
    animals. Now, researchers have found a more
    modest version of this ability in bonobos,
    our closest living relative. The apes can
    combine different calls to create new
    meanings, the team reports this week in
    Science.
    ...
    Previous studies have found that other animal
    species can combine their calls, but only in
    rCLtrivialrCY combinations that simply add the
    meanings together. Human language is much more
    powerful: Speakers can combine words into more
    than the sum of their parts. For instance,
    rCLtall cookrCY is a trivial combinationrCoit means
    someone who is tall and a cook. But rCLgood cookrCY
    is not someone who is good and a cook: They
    might be good at cooking, but terrible in
    other areasrCoperhaps a dangerous driver. This
    combination of words generates a new meaning.
    ...
    To find out whether bonobos are capable of making
    these rCLnontrivialrCY combinations, University of
    Z|+rich (UZH) animal communication researcher
    M|-lissa Berthet spent 8 months following wild
    bonobo groups in the Kokolopori Bonobo Reserve
    in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Every
    day, she and her guides set out at about 4 a.m.
    to find the bonobos before they left their
    overnight nests, then tracked them all day.
    Whenever she had a clear view of their
    activities, she recorded every vocalization,
    along with all its context: who made it, what
    they were doing, how other animals responded,
    and even what the weather was like. Any number
    of more than 300 contextual features could be
    linked with each call. Eventually, Berthet
    started to understand some of what the animals
    were communicating: rCLYou see a vocalization
    and then everybody moves rCa and itrCOs very
    satisfying to be like, rCyAh, I think I start to
    get it,rCOrCY she says.

    Berthet recorded 700 different vocalizations,
    many of which were combinations of two
    distinct calls, like rCLwhistle and peeprCY or
    rCLhigh hoot and low hoot.rCY To see whether the
    animals were creating new meanings from these
    combinations, the team borrowed an approach
    from human language studies, statistically
    analyzing how much context the vocalizations
    shared with each other. (In human language,
    words that occur in similar contexts tend to
    be more closely related in meaning.)

    Three combinations stood out: Their meanings
    appeared different enough from those of their
    constituent calls that they seemed to count
    as nontrivial combinations. rCLHigh hoot and
    low hootrCY was one of these. rCLLow hoot,rCY the
    team found, is often used in situations of
    high excitement, and appears to mean
    something like rCLI am excited.rCY rCLHigh hootrCY is
    used when bonobos want to alert others to
    their presence and may mean rCLPay attention to
    me.rCY But the combination of the two calls
    doesnrCOt simply mean rCLI am excited, pay
    attention to merCY; instead, it conveys a more
    nuanced message. It is used specifically when
    another individual is putting on an aggressive
    display. The bonobo using this call
    combination might be trying to stop the other
    individual from displaying or get others in
    the group to pay attention to the caller, the
    authors suggest.

    The findings suggest bonobos have a
    rCLprecursorrCY to the human capacity to combine
    units of language to create new meanings, says
    senior author Simon Townsend, a primate
    communication researcher at UZH. Both bonobos
    and humans may have inherited the ability from
    our common ancestor some 7 million years ago,
    he says.
    ...

    First, the common ancestor for sure isn't 7 mya if Danuvius is 11.6
    mya. Whoever claims it is, is an idiot.
    Second, this is the prime example of bias in science, if you look hard
    enough you will find exactly what you want to find. Our language is far
    above "high hoot" and "low hoot", and a completely different thing,
    since all our communication mostly is placed above waterline (eyes, face expression, sounds). Why they don't have visible whites of the eyes, or
    face expressions, if we inherited something from common ancestor.
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Wed Apr 9 03:02:12 2025
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    Primum Sapienti wrote:
    > Human language can combine words to create
    an infinite number of meaningsrCoan ability
    that gives language its expressive power and
    sets it apart from the communication of other
    animals. Now, researchers have found a more
    modest version of this ability in bonobos

    Any child who has a dog knows there's more than
    one type of bark.

    And, of course, there's differences IN HUMANS
    when it comes to language ability, right down
    to our DNA:

    https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=49741

    Similar != The Same

    We share nearly all of our genes with Bonobos,
    though the genes themselves are not identical.
    --
    https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Wed Apr 9 03:11:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.anthropology.paleo

    On 4/8/25 9:27 AM, Mario Petrinovic wrote:

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a First, the common ancestor for sure isn't 7 mya if Danuvius is
    11.6 mya. Whoever claims it is, is an idiot.

    The oldest of the oldest Chimpanzee fossils aren't half the age
    of erectus, AND we're only talking teeth. IF and I do mean "If"
    teeth are definitive then Europe was definitely our point of
    origin as teeth that look like Ardi or Lucy are found there.

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Second, this is the prime example of bias in science, if you look hard enough you will find exactly what you want to find.

    Nearly everything the "Find" is confirmation of Out of Africa
    purity. It's policy, not science. All science that lacks an
    obvious economic or national security application is politics.

    Done.

    Back when Dubya Bush was President everyone knew it. It was
    talked about quite a lot. There's even a documentary, "A Flock
    of DoDos" where scientist talk about the fear many held in
    regards to performing research related to evolution, as the
    Religious Reich was wielding it's influence on the grant
    money...

    Today, only an idiot would try to get grant money doing any
    research that so much as questions Gwobull Warbling...

    In a way, it's hilarious. People brush this off as "Kooky
    Conspiracy" stuff even though they lived through the Bush
    error I mean era (no I don't) and can just look around at
    the Gwobull Warbling death grip of today... "Sure I see it
    but it's Kooky Conspiracy shit to notice it or at least
    acknowledge it!"
    --
    https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
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