• Bone tools from 1.5 MYA

    From erik simpson@eastside.erik@gmail.com to sci.antropology.paleo on Thu Mar 6 08:40:35 2025
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    Systematic bone tool production at 1.5 million years ago

    Ignacio de la Torre, Luc Doyon, Alfonso Benito-Calvo, Rafael Mora,
    Ipyana Mwakyoma, Jackson K. Njau, Renata F. Peters, Angeliki
    Theodoropoulou & Francesco drCOErrico

    Abstract
    Recent evidence indicates that the emergence of stone tool technology
    occurred before the appearance of the genus Homo1 and may potentially be traced back deep into the primate evolutionary line2. Conversely,
    osseous technologies are apparently exclusive of later hominins from approximately 2 million years ago (Ma)3,4, whereas the earliest
    systematic production of bone tools is currently restricted to European Acheulean sites 400rCo250 thousand years ago5,6. Here we document an assemblage of bone tools shaped by knapping found within a single stratigraphic horizon at Olduvai Gorge dated to 1.5rCeMa. Large mammal
    limb bone fragments, mostly from hippopotamus and elephant, were shaped
    to produce various tools, including massive elongated implements. Before
    our discovery, bone artefact production in pre-Middle Stone Age African contexts was widely considered as episodic, expedient and
    unrepresentative of early Homo toolkits. However, our results
    demonstrate that at the transition between the Oldowan and the early Acheulean, East African hominins developed an original cultural
    innovation that entailed a transfer and adaptation of knapping skills
    from stone to bone. By producing technologically and morphologically standardized bone tools, early Acheulean toolmakers unravelled
    technological repertoires that were previously thought to have appeared routinely more than 1 million years later.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-08652-5. Open access
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  • From Mario Petrinovic@mario.petrinovic1@zg.htnet.hr to sci.anthropology.paleo on Thu Mar 6 19:59:35 2025
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    On 6.3.2025. 17:40, erik simpson wrote:
    Systematic bone tool production at 1.5 million years ago

    Ignacio de la Torre, Luc Doyon, Alfonso Benito-Calvo, Rafael Mora,
    Ipyana Mwakyoma, Jackson K. Njau, Renata F. Peters, Angeliki
    Theodoropoulou & Francesco drCOErrico

    Abstract
    Recent evidence indicates that the emergence of stone tool technology occurred before the appearance of the genus Homo1 and may potentially be traced back deep into the primate evolutionary line2. Conversely,
    osseous technologies are apparently exclusive of later hominins from approximately 2 million years ago (Ma)3,4, whereas the earliest
    systematic production of bone tools is currently restricted to European Acheulean sites 400rCo250 thousand years ago5,6. Here we document an assemblage of bone tools shaped by knapping found within a single stratigraphic horizon at Olduvai Gorge dated to 1.5rCeMa. Large mammal
    limb bone fragments, mostly from hippopotamus and elephant, were shaped
    to produce various tools, including massive elongated implements. Before
    our discovery, bone artefact production in pre-Middle Stone Age African contexts was widely considered as episodic, expedient and
    unrepresentative of early Homo toolkits. However, our results
    demonstrate that at the transition between the Oldowan and the early Acheulean, East African hominins developed an original cultural
    innovation that entailed a transfer and adaptation of knapping skills
    from stone to bone. By producing technologically and morphologically standardized bone tools, early Acheulean toolmakers unravelled
    technological repertoires that were previously thought to have appeared routinely more than 1 million years later.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-08652-5. Open access

    So, did those who were persuading us into thinking that this was
    episodic, apologize? Or should we encounter misconceptions like this
    over and over again, just because this is "science", and science doesn't think.
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Thu Mar 6 21:23:27 2025
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    On 3/6/25 11:40 AM, erik simpson wrote:

    Abstract
    Recent evidence indicates that the emergence of stone tool technology occurred before the appearance of the genus Homo1 and may potentially be traced back deep into the primate evolutionary

    I disagree. There is evidence but there's evidence for humans in North
    America more than 20,000 years ago. Not good evidence but evidence.

    PLUS, 1.5 million years old is YOUNGER than erectus, never mind Homo...

    Until there's an actual survey of potential sites OUTSIDE of Africa,
    all we're looking at here is a selection bias. And that's a lot of
    things but "Science" isn't one of them.
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  • From Primum Sapienti@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sat Mar 8 22:46:36 2025
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    erik simpson wrote:
    Systematic bone tool production at 1.5 million years ago



    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-08652-5. Open access

    Thanks for finding this!
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  • From Primum Sapienti@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sat Mar 8 22:49:46 2025
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    Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    On 6.3.2025. 17:40, erik simpson wrote:
    Systematic bone tool production at 1.5 million years ago

    Ignacio de la Torre, Luc Doyon, Alfonso Benito-Calvo, Rafael Mora,
    Ipyana Mwakyoma, Jackson K. Njau, Renata F. Peters, Angeliki
    Theodoropoulou & Francesco drCOErrico

    Abstract
    Recent evidence indicates that the emergence of stone tool technology
    occurred before the appearance of the genus Homo1 and may potentially
    be traced back deep into the primate evolutionary line2. Conversely,
    osseous technologies are apparently exclusive of later hominins from
    approximately 2 million years ago (Ma)3,4, whereas the earliest
    systematic production of bone tools is currently restricted to
    European Acheulean sites 400rCo250 thousand years ago5,6. Here we
    document an assemblage of bone tools shaped by knapping found within a
    single stratigraphic horizon at Olduvai Gorge dated to 1.5rCeMa. Large
    mammal limb bone fragments, mostly from hippopotamus and elephant,
    were shaped to produce various tools, including massive elongated
    implements. Before our discovery, bone artefact production in
    pre-Middle Stone Age African contexts was widely considered as
    episodic, expedient and unrepresentative of early Homo toolkits.
    However, our results demonstrate that at the transition between the
    Oldowan and the early Acheulean, East African hominins developed an
    original cultural innovation that entailed a transfer and adaptation
    of knapping skills from stone to bone. By producing technologically
    and morphologically standardized bone tools, early Acheulean
    toolmakers unravelled technological repertoires that were previously
    thought to have appeared routinely more than 1 million years later.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-08652-5. Open access

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a So, did those who were persuading us into thinking that this was episodic, apologize? Or should we encounter misconceptions like this over and over again, just because this is "science", and science doesn't think.

    The conclusion that this used to be considered episodic
    was based on the previous body of evidence. But as the
    authors above state

    "Before our discovery, bone artefact production
    in pre-Middle Stone Age African contexts was
    widely considered as episodic, expedient and
    unrepresentative of early Homo toolkits."

    New finds, paradigms change
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sun Mar 9 01:09:20 2025
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    On 3/9/25 12:49 AM, Primum Sapienti wrote:

    New finds, paradigms change

    So the typical selection/preservation/sample bias.

    Set this along side 2 million plus year old tools in China
    and the story unraveling is.... ????
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  • From Mario Petrinovic@mario.petrinovic1@zg.htnet.hr to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sun Mar 9 11:03:14 2025
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    On 9.3.2025. 6:49, Primum Sapienti wrote:
    Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    On 6.3.2025. 17:40, erik simpson wrote:
    Systematic bone tool production at 1.5 million years ago

    Ignacio de la Torre, Luc Doyon, Alfonso Benito-Calvo, Rafael Mora,
    Ipyana Mwakyoma, Jackson K. Njau, Renata F. Peters, Angeliki
    Theodoropoulou & Francesco drCOErrico

    Abstract
    Recent evidence indicates that the emergence of stone tool technology
    occurred before the appearance of the genus Homo1 and may potentially
    be traced back deep into the primate evolutionary line2. Conversely,
    osseous technologies are apparently exclusive of later hominins from
    approximately 2 million years ago (Ma)3,4, whereas the earliest
    systematic production of bone tools is currently restricted to
    European Acheulean sites 400rCo250 thousand years ago5,6. Here we
    document an assemblage of bone tools shaped by knapping found within
    a single stratigraphic horizon at Olduvai Gorge dated to 1.5rCeMa.
    Large mammal limb bone fragments, mostly from hippopotamus and
    elephant, were shaped to produce various tools, including massive
    elongated implements. Before our discovery, bone artefact production
    in pre-Middle Stone Age African contexts was widely considered as
    episodic, expedient and unrepresentative of early Homo toolkits.
    However, our results demonstrate that at the transition between the
    Oldowan and the early Acheulean, East African hominins developed an
    original cultural innovation that entailed a transfer and adaptation
    of knapping skills from stone to bone. By producing technologically
    and morphologically standardized bone tools, early Acheulean
    toolmakers unravelled technological repertoires that were previously
    thought to have appeared routinely more than 1 million years later.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-08652-5. Open access

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a So, did those who were persuading us into thinking that this
    was episodic, apologize? Or should we encounter misconceptions like
    this over and over again, just because this is "science", and science
    doesn't think.

    The conclusion that this used to be considered episodic
    was based on the previous body of evidence. But as the
    authors above state

    "Before our discovery, bone artefact production
    in pre-Middle Stone Age African contexts was
    widely considered as episodic, expedient and
    unrepresentative of early Homo toolkits."

    New finds, paradigms change

    This isn't the only evidence that we have about past, we have a lot of
    evidence. The problem is in the wrong interpretation of evidence, which
    is obvious. The interpretation of our raised forehead was that this gave
    us intelligence. The interpretation of humans and animals was that
    humans are intelligent, and animals aren't. A mountain of wrong interpretations, over and over again. There is no excuse for wrong interpretation, being so wrong is stupid there is no way around it. How
    come I had the right interpretation?
    See, they willingly choose to neglect some evidence. For example, they
    find 1.5 million old peach endocarp in China, which is identical to
    today's peach endocarp. Every plant changes when domesticated. This
    evidence says that people domesticated peaches at least 1.5 mya. They
    find ungulate tracks going parallel to lake margin 1.5 my old. The only interpretation can be that those ungulates were herd by humans. But
    scientists neglect this crucial evidence without blinking an eye just
    like that, and continue to support the idea that large brain gives you intelligence, despite the fact that they found intelligent human species
    with small brains. This all is a sea of stupidity. Wrong interpretation
    after wrong interpretation, massive negligence of crucial evidence.
    Recently a paper came out, which talks about human footprints. They do
    mention Laetoli footprints, they do mention 1.5 old human footprints
    (Koobi Fora), but not a single word about the most important of them
    all, the Trachilos footprints. And there is always some excuse for this. Somebody is messing big time with this science, this foul behavior has
    to be addressed, instead we constantly have excuses for such behavior.
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sun Mar 9 09:12:03 2025
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    On 3/9/25 6:03 AM, Mario Petrinovic wrote:

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a This isn't the only evidence that we have about past, we have a
    lot of evidence. The problem is in the wrong interpretation of evidence, which is obvious.

    A huge problem with the fraud that is paleo anthropology is that, like
    the defense of a guilty murderer, they show you (and demand that you
    look) at everything in isolation.

    "Omg! Ten million guns of that caliber are in the United States, that we
    know of! NOTHING ties the murder to this particular gun! So it was
    fired recently? So what? Gun owners are supposed to fire their guns as
    often as they can. It's called PRACTICE and they're supposed to be as proficient as possible! He said he hadn't fired it? EXACTLY! Someone
    whose constantly practicing with their gun really isn't keeping track
    of when they're fire in. It's like cleaning the dishes or filing
    something at work -- one day bleeds into another. You can never remember
    when exactly you did that thing or talked to that friend, but you know
    you did. The bullet? Is that some kind of joke? Do you have any idea
    how many MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of bullets that manufacturer produces?
    Many police forces use that brand. Is the prosecution telling you that
    a police officer murdered the victim? Why not? Same caliber gun, exact
    same ammunition and they're practicing all the time, firing their guns."

    #1. You need a model.

    A hypothesis explains the evidence. Not "A" piece of evidence but all
    of it. And Out of Africa purity nonsense can't do this. Which is why
    it is CONSTANTLY pretending that new evidence "rewrites the book" only
    the book is never rewritten.

    #2. You need predictions.

    A fake science like paleo anthropology does the opposite: It finds
    things and then shoehorns them into the pre existing conclusion. There
    are no predictions to be tested, nothing that can falsify the dogma.
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