• Insufficient evidence for population bottleneck at 1mya

    From Primum Sapienti@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sun Feb 16 21:26:16 2025
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    https://academic.oup.com/mbe/advance-article-pdf/doi/10.1093/molbev/msaf041/61812258/msaf041.pdf

    Insufficient evidence for a severe bottleneck
    in humans during the Early to Middle
    Pleistocene transition

    Abstract
    A recently proposed model suggests a severe
    bottleneck in the panmictic ancestral
    population of modern humans during the Early
    to Middle Pleistocene transition. Here, we
    show this model provides a worse fit to the
    data than a panmictic model without the
    bottleneck.

    "Finally, there is growing evidence that
    humans do not descend from a single, panmictic
    13 ancestral population. Instead, recent
    studies suggest that humans descend from two
    (or more) 14 divergent populations that admixed
    together prior to the OOA event."

    "In summary, we find there is insufficient
    evidence to support a model of human evolution
    where a panmictic population undergoes a
    severe bottleneck approximately 1Mya. We
    stress that newly proposed models should be
    shown to fit the data just as well or better
    than traditional models."


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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sat Feb 22 02:26:03 2025
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    On 2/16/25 11:26 PM, Primum Sapienti wrote:

    Insufficient evidence for a severe bottleneck
    in humans during the Early to Middle
    Pleistocene transition

    Bottlenecks were common enough, on a geologic time scale,
    and molecular dating sucks rancid eggs through a straw.

    Encapsulated within this period which they can find no
    evidence of a bottleneck was the earth getting struck in
    the small of the back by one or more not-at-all-tiny
    objects from space.

    The impact would have been... oh... .right where the
    Out of Asia people place the origins of humanity.

    And it would have been... what's the word? "Catastrophic."

    First there would have been a "Nuclear Winter," or the
    bolide version thereof. And, like Toba, it would have
    favored Africa BECAUSE the closer you are to the equator
    and the sea, the better your odds of survival. Well,
    follow the equator and, oops, Asia is out because THAT'S
    where the damn thing struck! So that leaves Africa.

    Such events hurt the northern hemisphere the most.

    Well. I guess they hurt the immediate impact zone the
    worst but, apart from the guys who get vaporized in the
    first split second, the people who get it the worse are
    in the northern hemisphere. This is where the skies are
    going to take the longest to clear and the effect on
    temperature is going to be at it's most extreme...

    It's genuinely impossible for there to have NOT been a
    bottleneck event. Seriously. It's just plain ignorant to
    claim you can have major impacts -- CLIMATE CHANGING
    IMPACTS -- and not make it tough to do things like not
    die.

    NOTE: A similar event is accepted by everyone outside
    of NOAA for the Younger Dryas Cooling, and it lasted for
    over a thousand years... plus stamped out Clovis Culture
    in the Americas, ended other cultures in the world...
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