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https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01919-1

Abstract
Questions about when early members of the
genus Homo adapted to extreme environments
like deserts and rainforests have
traditionally focused on Homo sapiens. Here,
we present multidisciplinary evidence from
Engaji Nanyori in TanzaniarCOs Oldupai Gorge,
revealing that Homo erectus thrived in
hyperarid landscapes one million years ago.
Using biogeochemical analyses, precise
chronometric dating, palaeoclimate
simulations, biome modeling, fire history
reconstructions, palaeobotanical studies,
faunal assemblages, and archeological
evidence, we reconstruct an environment
dominated by semidesert shrubland. Despite
these challenges, Homo erectus repeatedly
occupied fluvial landscapes, leveraging
water sources and ecological focal points
to mitigate risk. These findings suggest
archaic humans possessed an ecological
flexibility previously attributed only to
later hominins. This adaptability likely
facilitated the expansion of Homo erectus
into the arid regions of Africa and Eurasia,
redefining their role as ecological
generalists thriving in some of the most
challenging landscapes of the Middle
Pleistocene.

"Within the context of Engaji Nanyori,
evidence of Homo erectusrCO adaptability to
extreme and highly variable mid-Pleistocene
climates becomes apparent amidst arid
conditions, reduced plant cover, and
frequent ecological disturbances due to
fire. Fossil pollen analysis, from a
semidesert plant community characterized
by a considerable proportion of gymnosperms
compared to angiosperms (10:1), with
Gnetales being the dominant order, reveals
the presence of at least six species of
xeric ephedroid shrubs. Notably, the
pollen record is predominantly composed of
Ephedripites pollen, primarily produced by
Ephedra, a genus known for its
drought-resistant characteristics
indicative of peri-Saharan ecosystems."


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On 1/20/25 1:12 AM, Primum Sapienti wrote:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01919-1

Abstract
Questions about when early members of the
genus Homo adapted to extreme environments
like deserts and rainforests have
traditionally focused on Homo sapiens.

I default to -- but am not married to -- the idea that there's
only been one single species of Homo for the last million years
or so, and it starts with erectus.

Yeah, I know, erectus changed a lot but I wiggle my way around
this by saying "The last million years or so" when erectus goes
make maybe 2 million years...

Homo sapiens erectus?

I can deep dive into this, btw.

I suspect that Homo sapiens owe their existence, OUR existence,
on the chromosome fusion thing. It threw a monkey wrench into
the crossing breeding with other archiacs, allowing them to
evolve in isolation within a crowd.... in a manner of speaking.

THEN, of course, evolution kept happening! The very same
selective pressures that created so many different "Ancestors"
in the first place started working on erectus. They evolved to
live in new environments... adapted... resulting in unique
populations.

I've already said to much but, yeah, there it is.
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On 20.1.2025. 7:12, Primum Sapienti wrote:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01919-1

Abstract
Questions about when early members of the
genus Homo adapted to extreme environments
like deserts and rainforests have
traditionally focused on Homo sapiens. Here,
we present multidisciplinary evidence from
Engaji Nanyori in TanzaniarCOs Oldupai Gorge,
revealing that Homo erectus thrived in
hyperarid landscapes one million years ago.
Using biogeochemical analyses, precise
chronometric dating, palaeoclimate
simulations, biome modeling, fire history
reconstructions, palaeobotanical studies,
faunal assemblages, and archeological
evidence, we reconstruct an environment
dominated by semidesert shrubland. Despite
these challenges, Homo erectus repeatedly
occupied fluvial landscapes, leveraging
water sources and ecological focal points
to mitigate risk. These findings suggest
archaic humans possessed an ecological
flexibility previously attributed only to
later hominins. This adaptability likely
facilitated the expansion of Homo erectus
into the arid regions of Africa and Eurasia,
redefining their role as ecological
generalists thriving in some of the most
challenging landscapes of the Middle
Pleistocene.

"Within the context of Engaji Nanyori,
evidence of Homo erectusrCO adaptability to
extreme and highly variable mid-Pleistocene
climates becomes apparent amidst arid
conditions, reduced plant cover, and
frequent ecological disturbances due to
fire. Fossil pollen analysis, from a
semidesert plant community characterized
by a considerable proportion of gymnosperms
compared to angiosperms (10:1), with
Gnetales being the dominant order, reveals
the presence of at least six species of
xeric ephedroid shrubs. Notably, the
pollen record is predominantly composed of
Ephedripites pollen, primarily produced by
Ephedra, a genus known for its
drought-resistant characteristics
indicative of peri-Saharan ecosystems."

Our earliest ancestors, Ouranopithecus, Graecopithecus, were found in
exactly that type of environment, described as "impoverished". So,
what's the bloody fuzz, do those scientists know anything at all?
Homo antecessor was found in Spain, 1.2 mya. Jesus Christ, what's
wrong with today's science? We were adapted to impoverished environment
9.6 mya, and to cold Europe 1.2 mya, and now this guy is "discovering America". My god. Not strange that they have stupid theories.
The stupid idea was that only Homo sapiens was "smart enough" to do
that, so all the previous species were, simply, neglected. Stupid
scientists.
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Mario Petrinovic wrote:

On 20.1.2025. 7:12, Primum Sapienti wrote:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01919-1

Abstract
Questions about when early members of the
genus Homo adapted to extreme environments
like deserts and rainforests have
traditionally focused on Homo sapiens. Here,
we present multidisciplinary evidence from
Engaji Nanyori in TanzaniarCOs Oldupai Gorge,
revealing that Homo erectus thrived in
hyperarid landscapes one million years ago.
Using biogeochemical analyses, precise
chronometric dating, palaeoclimate
simulations, biome modeling, fire history
reconstructions, palaeobotanical studies,
faunal assemblages, and archeological
evidence, we reconstruct an environment
dominated by semidesert shrubland. Despite
these challenges, Homo erectus repeatedly
occupied fluvial landscapes, leveraging
water sources and ecological focal points
to mitigate risk. These findings suggest
archaic humans possessed an ecological
flexibility previously attributed only to
later hominins. This adaptability likely
facilitated the expansion of Homo erectus
into the arid regions of Africa and Eurasia,
redefining their role as ecological
generalists thriving in some of the most
challenging landscapes of the Middle
Pleistocene.

"Within the context of Engaji Nanyori,
evidence of Homo erectusrCO adaptability to
extreme and highly variable mid-Pleistocene
climates becomes apparent amidst arid
conditions, reduced plant cover, and
frequent ecological disturbances due to
fire. Fossil pollen analysis, from a
semidesert plant community characterized
by a considerable proportion of gymnosperms
compared to angiosperms (10:1), with
Gnetales being the dominant order, reveals
the presence of at least six species of
xeric ephedroid shrubs. Notably, the
pollen record is predominantly composed of
Ephedripites pollen, primarily produced by
Ephedra, a genus known for its
drought-resistant characteristics
indicative of peri-Saharan ecosystems."

-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Our earliest ancestors, Ouranopithecus, Graecopithecus, were found in exactly that type of environment, described as "impoverished".

Ouranopithecus and Graecopithecus were
quite separated from erectus in time
and space.

So, what's the bloody fuzz, do those scientists know anything at all?
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Homo antecessor was found in Spain, 1.2 mya. Jesus Christ, what's wrong with today's science? We were adapted to impoverished environment 9.6 mya, and to cold Europe 1.2 mya, and now this guy is "discovering America". My god. Not strange that they have stupid theories.
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a The stupid idea was that only Homo sapiens was "smart enough"
to do that, so all the previous species were, simply, neglected. Stupid scientists.

Staring off into space and asserting that
an assumption is true is the AA way of
doing things. Actually doing *research* and
confirming or disproving something is
anathema to them.
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On 2/3/25 12:09 AM, Primum Sapienti wrote:

Staring off into space and asserting that
an assumption is true is the AA way of
doing things.

No. That's what the bed wetters say, as they clutch their
pearls and screech about trees & savannas.

What brought me to Aquatic Ape, though I guess I never had
any emotional reaction against it (as you display), was
Multiregionalism.

In a sense, and I'm sure Wolpoff would throw things at me
for speaking on this but, Multiregionalism is the radical
notion that modern humans did NOT fall out of the sky one
day in 200k BC -- in April, it was a Tuesday -- land on
an Africa savanna and then immediately all go out for tea
& crumpets. No. Instead, Multiregionalism points to the
numerous distinct populations already known and posits that
modern man is an amalgam formed out of their genetic
interactions. (and not necessarily symmetrical intera

I was exposed to Wolpoff, his multiregionalism, and
immediately brushed it off as racism. But I'm not so
closed minded as the savanna idiots, and the more I heard
the harder I looked, and the harder I looked the stronger
his position seemed.

We are force fed Out of Africa purity and it leaves us
with the impression that this is solid fact, there's no
other way to interpret evidence, and the entire rest of
the world agrees with us.

It doesn't.

Anyway, so Multiregionalism was looking stronger and
stronger only, despite exhaustive minutes of research, I
wasn't aware of any mechanism to produce these diverse
"Regional" populations in this Multiregionalism, much less
keep the DNA flowing between them. Until I started paying
closer attention to Aquatic Ape.

Originally I saw AAT as one of a number of COMPETING models
for human development. But once it finally dawned on me
(after an embarrassingly lengthy period of time) that AAT
actually fit "Alternatives" to Out of Africa, well, DAMN!
That was it.

NOTE: AAT is even consistent with Out of Africa, once you
accept that Coastal Dispersal is a thing, and not the least
bit controversial. At that point AAT is no longer an "If"
but a question of "When" it began... for which there is
evidence stretching back millions of years... millions.

Actually doing *research* and
confirming or disproving something is
anathema to them.

Read usenet for your USDA Daily Recommended Dose of Irony.
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On 3.2.2025. 6:09, Primum Sapienti wrote:

Mario Petrinovic wrote:

On 20.1.2025. 7:12, Primum Sapienti wrote:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01919-1

Abstract
Questions about when early members of the
genus Homo adapted to extreme environments
like deserts and rainforests have
traditionally focused on Homo sapiens. Here,
we present multidisciplinary evidence from
Engaji Nanyori in TanzaniarCOs Oldupai Gorge,
revealing that Homo erectus thrived in
hyperarid landscapes one million years ago.
Using biogeochemical analyses, precise
chronometric dating, palaeoclimate
simulations, biome modeling, fire history
reconstructions, palaeobotanical studies,
faunal assemblages, and archeological
evidence, we reconstruct an environment
dominated by semidesert shrubland. Despite
these challenges, Homo erectus repeatedly
occupied fluvial landscapes, leveraging
water sources and ecological focal points
to mitigate risk. These findings suggest
archaic humans possessed an ecological
flexibility previously attributed only to
later hominins. This adaptability likely
facilitated the expansion of Homo erectus
into the arid regions of Africa and Eurasia,
redefining their role as ecological
generalists thriving in some of the most
challenging landscapes of the Middle
Pleistocene.

"Within the context of Engaji Nanyori,
evidence of Homo erectusrCO adaptability to
extreme and highly variable mid-Pleistocene
climates becomes apparent amidst arid
conditions, reduced plant cover, and
frequent ecological disturbances due to
fire. Fossil pollen analysis, from a
semidesert plant community characterized
by a considerable proportion of gymnosperms
compared to angiosperms (10:1), with
Gnetales being the dominant order, reveals
the presence of at least six species of
xeric ephedroid shrubs. Notably, the
pollen record is predominantly composed of
Ephedripites pollen, primarily produced by
Ephedra, a genus known for its
drought-resistant characteristics
indicative of peri-Saharan ecosystems."

-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Our earliest ancestors, Ouranopithecus, Graecopithecus, were
found in exactly that type of environment, described as "impoverished".

Ouranopithecus and Graecopithecus were
quite separated from erectus in time
and space.

So, what's the bloody fuzz, do those scientists know anything at all?
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Homo antecessor was found in Spain, 1.2 mya. Jesus Christ, >> what's wrong with today's science? We were adapted to impoverished
environment 9.6 mya, and to cold Europe 1.2 mya, and now this guy is
"discovering America". My god. Not strange that they have stupid
theories.
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a The stupid idea was that only Homo sapiens was "smart enough"
to do that, so all the previous species were, simply, neglected.
Stupid scientists.

Staring off into space and asserting that
an assumption is true is the AA way of
doing things. Actually doing *research* and
confirming or disproving something is
anathema to them.

What you just wrote is stupid as hell.
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Mario Petrinovic wrote:

Primum Sapienti wrote:

Staring off into space and asserting that
an assumption is true is the AA way of
doing things. Actually doing *research* and
confirming or disproving something is
anathema to them.

-a-a-a-a-a-a-a What you just wrote is stupid as hell.

How did you come to Aquatic Ape?

I assume that you had to have been forced fed the default
savanna idiocy like everybody else, but then at some point
you accepted Aquatic Ape in it's place.

How did that come about? What lead you away from the status
quo and to the right answer?
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Mario Petrinovic wrote:

On 3.2.2025. 6:09, Primum Sapienti wrote:

Mario Petrinovic wrote:

On 20.1.2025. 7:12, Primum Sapienti wrote:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01919-1

-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Our earliest ancestors, Ouranopithecus, Graecopithecus, were
found in exactly that type of environment, described as "impoverished".

Ouranopithecus and Graecopithecus were
quite separated from erectus in time
and space.

So, what's the bloody fuzz, do those scientists know anything at all?
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Homo antecessor was found in Spain, 1.2 mya. Jesus Christ,
what's wrong with today's science? We were adapted to impoverished
environment 9.6 mya, and to cold Europe 1.2 mya, and now this guy is
"discovering America". My god. Not strange that they have stupid
theories.
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a The stupid idea was that only Homo sapiens was "smart
enough" to do that, so all the previous species were, simply,
neglected. Stupid scientists.

Staring off into space and asserting that
an assumption is true is the AA way of
doing things. Actually doing *research* and
confirming or disproving something is
anathema to them.

-a-a-a-a-a-a-a What you just wrote is stupid as hell.

That's AA all right.
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Primum Sapienti wrote:

That's AA all right.

Certainly by middle school you should have learned how to
form an argument and articulate same.

The fact is, it doesn't matter how much you don't like AAT,
how bad you feel it is. It's the best. The Out of Africa
alternative is utter rubbish. It's not even internally
consistent!

There are no alternatives to Aquatic Ape. Period.
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