• Everything we know about psychopaths is wrong

    From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Fri Feb 27 12:28:31 2026
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    Only it's not...

    https://aeon.co/essays/psychopathy-is-a-zombie-idea-why-does-it-cling-on?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

    <Quote>
    Consider one of the most repeated tropes about psychopaths, that
    they are incapable of mirroring or reading other peoplesrCO
    emotions: they lack empathy. The problem with this view is that
    science tells a radically different story. When people diagnosed
    with psychopathy participate in empathy experiments, their
    performance is entirely indistinguishable from normal controls.
    </Quote>

    This is NOT telling us anything new or "Different" from what
    we've always heard.

    A lot of us are socially awkward. We just are. We're not great
    at socializing, we get very uncomfortable in social settings
    and if there's any kind of emotions evolved -- like in the case
    of a new birth or a death/serious injury -- you can just forget
    it. AND this can come across as a lack of empathy...

    "I just told you my father died, that he fell down the stairs,
    set the house of fire and died screaming in agony... next to my
    dog. But you acted like I just told you I had tuna fish for
    lunch."

    THAT'S NORMAL for socially awkward people.... overwhelmed...
    head filled with so much noise/emotions that they can't
    digest everything....

    BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE EVER HEARD ABOUT PSYCHOPATHS!

    No, psychopaths are supposed to be all about "Masking."

    They /Act/ like they care. They. /Act/. charming, interested...
    normal?

    We always learned that a psychopath knows how they're supposed
    to act, they know what's appropriate and they do it... they
    fake it.

    This is what we all learned.

    AND, it's what they're describing in this story, the one claiming
    that we all learned it wrong.



    "Masking," btw, is highly underrated. There's this kid diagnosed
    as autistic -- since a very young age -- NOT incredibly "High
    Functioning," who talks about things like "Masking."

    His mom was diagnosed as an adult and he refers to her as "High
    masking" or similar. Meaning, she hides her autism, it's symptoms (manifestations?). He, on the other hand, is NOT great at
    masking... lots of stimming... meltdowns... dresses very weird...

    So the problem isn't masking. No, masking is a tool that a lot of
    people use. It's basically just "Hiding" your feelings or "Issues."
    The problem is what psychopaths are using this tool for!
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  • From Mario Petrinovic@mario.petrinovic1@zg.htnet.hr to sci.anthropology.paleo on Fri Feb 27 20:09:16 2026
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    On 2/27/2026 6:28 PM, JTEM wrote:

    Only it's not...

    https://aeon.co/essays/psychopathy-is-a-zombie-idea-why-does-it-cling- on?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

    <Quote>
    Consider one of the most repeated tropes about psychopaths, that
    they are incapable of mirroring or reading other peoplesrCO
    emotions: they lack empathy. The problem with this view is that
    science tells a radically different story. When people diagnosed
    with psychopathy participate in empathy experiments, their
    performance is entirely indistinguishable from normal controls.
    </Quote>

    This is NOT telling us anything new or "Different" from what
    we've always heard.

    A lot of us are socially awkward. We just are. We're not great
    at socializing, we get very uncomfortable in social settings
    and if there's any kind of emotions evolved -- like in the case
    of a new birth or a death/serious injury -- you can just forget
    it. AND this can come across as a lack of empathy...

    "I just told you my father died, that he fell down the stairs,
    set the house of fire and died screaming in agony... next to my
    dog. But you acted like I just told you I had tuna fish for
    lunch."

    THAT'S NORMAL for socially awkward people.... overwhelmed...
    head filled with so much noise/emotions that they can't
    digest everything....

    BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE EVER HEARD ABOUT PSYCHOPATHS!

    No, psychopaths are supposed to be all about "Masking."

    They-a /Act/-a like they care. They. /Act/. charming, interested...
    normal?

    We always learned that a psychopath knows how they're supposed
    to act, they know what's appropriate and they do it... they
    fake it.

    This is what we all learned.

    AND, it's what they're describing in this story, the one claiming
    that we all learned it wrong.



    "Masking," btw, is highly underrated. There's this kid diagnosed
    as autistic -- since a very young age -- NOT incredibly "High
    Functioning," who talks about things like "Masking."

    His mom was diagnosed as an adult and he refers to her as "High
    masking" or similar. Meaning, she hides her autism, it's symptoms (manifestations?). He, on the other hand, is NOT great at
    masking... lots of stimming... meltdowns... dresses very weird...

    So the problem isn't masking. No, masking is a tool that a lot of
    people use. It's basically just "Hiding" your feelings or "Issues."
    The problem is what psychopaths are using this tool for!

    Well, I have new computer, so you appeared unblocked.
    I don't know what the goal of this post is. My sister is a psychopath,
    she tried to kill me three times (two of those I narrowly escaped the
    death). I am absolutely sure that she killed three people that I know
    of, I don't know if she killed some people that I don't know.
    Psychopaths aren't humans, they act like aliens would, except that
    aliens are better than them, because aliens have emotions towards each
    other, psychopaths don't have any emotion, even towards themself.
    On this video you will see a psychopath. Notice how killing a human
    (end having a life sentence because of that) is just a video game to
    him. A policeman struggle to find the motive. He killed the guy because
    the guy was too fat. It is exactly how you maintain your home, you clean
    the dust, you kill the spiders, this guy killed "the spider", somebody
    who isn't per standards, to, make order in his world. Similarly, my
    sister almost killed another girl (they were around 10) because this
    other girl couldn't hold a pee, so she smelled all the time (only the
    first 10 minutes of the video are relevant): https://youtu.be/Mwt35SEeR9w?si=DCm9ReKrCF4U9LO6
    Another case. Guy was 16 (surname ends with "ich", so his ancestors
    are from Balkans, the name is Keith), baby face, fragile guy. He had
    younger brother, 14, but the brother is built like a bull, very strong.
    They had little sister, 2 years old. Keith thought that his younger
    brother looks at their sister inappropriate way. So, he wanted to "clear
    this thing" by killing him with knife. He realized that his younger
    brother was much stronger than him, and he will not be able to kill him.
    So, he waited until he is 18, so that he can buy a gun. In the meantime
    he was in excellent relations with his little sister, taking care of her
    all the time, playing with her, those two were the best in the family.
    So he turned 18 but parents didn't allow him to buy a gun. So now,
    what he will do? Well, he took a knife from kitchen, and slaughtered his little sister, and thus "corrected this thing". Here is the video. It is
    a bit longer, so I wrote here what is on it: https://youtu.be/25wC533f7dQ?si=IgFm-nABelrOuRvU
    The problem with today's world is that I mustn't write what we should
    do with psychopaths (you can recognize psychopaths when they are babies easily, but not when they grow up, when they grow up they are more
    normal than normal people), because they behave just like cancer behaves.
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Fri Feb 27 14:56:57 2026
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    Mario Petrinovic wrote:


    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Well, I have new computer, so you appeared unblocked.

    Well. I have new toilet, so this alter appeared unblocked.

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a I don't know what the goal of this post is.

    Wrong group. I meant to post it to a group where we did have
    many discussions on psychopaths.

    ...there there have been discussions on psychology and
    pre "Modern" humans... I just don't remember where.

    Suffice it to say that many pre moderns likely would FAIL to
    register as "Neurotypical" for any of us....

    My sister is a
    psychopath, she tried to kill me three times (two of those I narrowly escaped the death). I am absolutely sure that she killed three people
    that I know of, I don't know if she killed some people that I don't know.

    Saying "She's a psychopath" is granting her an excuse. It's the mental
    illness doing these things, not her...

    So you reported these things?

    I mean, "Three people have been murdered but, hey, why would THAT be
    a concern?"

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a The problem with today's world is that I mustn't write what we
    should do with psychopaths (you can recognize psychopaths when they are babies easily, but not when they grow up, when they grow up they are
    more normal than normal people), because they behave just like cancer behaves.

    That's not true at all. You're doing what the story did: Confusing
    outward behaviors for the inner wiring of the brain.

    The very FIRST thing you need to look at, when a young child exhibits
    ANY sort of undesirable behavior, is to seek out the influences.

    It would be rare-to-none for a child to "Torture an animal" when they
    aren't acting on influences. I mean, ever see a hunting trophy such as
    the ubiquitous "Mounted Head on a Wall?"

    Child sees THAT and thinks... what?

    And are any of these hunting trophies associated with wealthy, cultured
    and/or socially high-ranking people, or do all of them belong to
    toothless rednecks in a run down trailer?

    The point is, kids see these things! AND, kids imitate adults. But if a
    kid sees hunting trophies and then cuts the head off an animal you call
    them a psychopath? Why not sit them down, figure out WHY they did what
    they did -- you'd probably find a simple answer -- and then gently
    reinforce the desired behaviors ("Positive Reinforcement").

    Oh I totally believe that psychopaths are made. Mostly by bad parents,
    yes, but by dumb luck as well.

    Stupid, I know, but watch "Mindhunter" on Netflix. This is about the
    early efforts to "Profile" serial killers. In one episode looking into
    a cross dressing serial killer, the story said that they got caught as
    a kid and their parent set their women's shoes on fire! AND, they said
    this did not end the desires/attraction but literally singed the shoes,
    the entire experience into their mind.

    And THIS, I suspect, is how most psychopaths come about...

    There's probably some undesirable behavior and then bad parenting
    react so badly -- as bad parents are apt to do -- that they've implanted
    a trauma into the child's mind... compelling them to desire, seek out
    and repeat that behavior...

    There is also the problem that kids and adults to NOT think of things
    the same way. Best example I ever came across? The MLP "Brony."

    A "Brony" is an adult (or sometimes teen) fan of My Little Pony (MLP).
    And, as adults or even teens, they like MLP in "Adult" ways. Many of
    them were kids when they started liking MLP but when they grew, when
    that sexual maturity started to kick in, they still "Liked" MLP but
    they saw it and "Liked" it in sexually mature ways...

    ...and if you think it's unique to MLP then do the Google on
    Pokemon porn... Legend of Zelda porn... Adventure Time porn...

    So take this know, not at all rare human behavior and add to it early
    childhood trauma.

    ...like how parents reacted when they tried to recreate those
    hunting trophies! Or what they saw on TV... the movies... what that
    couple was doing in the bushes... etc.

    Yeah there's different personalities. Some kids are going to have
    far more difficult a time seeing these lines, where they're drawn,
    but with some luck, and no trauma inflicted, they probably will grow
    up normal.
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.anthropology.paleo on Fri Feb 27 15:22:11 2026
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    On 2/27/26 2:56 PM, JTEM wrote:

    It would be rare-to-none for a child to "Torture an animal" when they
    aren't acting on influences. I mean, ever see a hunting trophy such as
    the ubiquitous "Mounted Head on a Wall?"

    Child sees THAT and thinks... what?

    https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/809734939445772288

    To you it's... I dunno. It's a statement though.

    An "aesthetic?"

    But what does a child see? More importantly, what is it saying to
    a child?

    "It's really cool to cut off an animals head and hang it on the
    wall" really is one potential statement being made to the child.

    So the kid sees that, decides to start taking heads of of cats
    or puppies... squirrels... whatever animal he can find... and
    the parent(s) go ballistic! They go ape shit!

    There. Now we have a trauma response built into the kid. And this
    trauma is associated with... aligns with... what?

    And, typically, people relive their trauma.

    Yes. THIS is how I imagine most psychopaths are made.
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  • From Mario Petrinovic@mario.petrinovic1@zg.htnet.hr to sci.anthropology.paleo on Sat Feb 28 04:44:03 2026
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    On 2/27/2026 8:56 PM, JTEM wrote:
    -aMario Petrinovic wrote:


    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Well, I have new computer, so you appeared unblocked.

    Well. I have new toilet, so this alter appeared unblocked.

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a I don't know what the goal of this post is.

    Wrong group. I meant to post it to a group where we did have
    many discussions on psychopaths.

    -a-a-a-a ...there there have been discussions on psychology and
    pre "Modern" humans... I just don't remember where.

    Suffice it to say that many pre moderns likely would FAIL to
    register as "Neurotypical" for any of us....

    My sister is a psychopath, she tried to kill me three times (two of
    those I narrowly escaped the death). I am absolutely sure that she
    killed three people that I know of, I don't know if she killed some
    people that I don't know.

    Saying "She's a psychopath" is granting her an excuse. It's the mental illness doing these things, not her...

    So you reported these things?

    I mean, "Three people have been murdered but, hey, why would THAT be
    a concern?"

    I did go to my doctor when she tried to poison me, the doctor saw that
    I am poisoned, but I couldn't prove it. Doctor said that I should know
    exactly what kind of poison it is, and he said that this is very
    expensive. It doesn't have to be true, what he said, I am living in a post-communist country, where doctors care about how to cut expenses for state, not about wellbeing of their patients. Frankly, I didn't care to
    prove it, if society doesn't want to prove it (just like you've said,
    killing three people isn't something you should neglect). Now I am safe,
    now I know that she is psychopath (I learnt it from internet), I cut my
    ties with her. Now everybody around her is in danger, but that's not my problem, this is the problem of society, and society doesn't care.
    The first two killings happened many years ago. Two relatives. Today
    she is living in the apartment that those two should've inherited. Both
    of them were friends of her immediately before they prematurely died (my mother, who knew that her daughter is a psychopath, but she didn't want
    to be open about it, gave me a hint about this once, but I didn't
    understand, only today I understand what this hint meant). The last one
    was her first husband. Seeing him on a street one day (by accident)
    saved my life. He died immediately afterwards, but I noticed the
    symptoms, which later appeared on me.

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a The problem with today's world is that I mustn't write what
    we should do with psychopaths (you can recognize psychopaths when they
    are babies easily, but not when they grow up, when they grow up they
    are more normal than normal people), because they behave just like
    cancer behaves.

    That's not true at all. You're doing what the story did:-a Confusing
    outward behaviors for the inner wiring of the brain.

    The very FIRST thing you need to look at, when a young child exhibits
    ANY sort of undesirable behavior, is to seek out the influences.

    You are confusing sociopaths with psychopaths. Sociopaths make their
    evil things only after 15 years of age. Psychopaths can kill as soon as
    they are able to.
    Psychopaths don't have emotions. When you don't have emotions you
    behave per logic. And what is the basic logic in the Universe? This
    logic is: "It is good to do bad things to everybody around you.". If I
    brake legs to everybody around me, this will be good for me, I'll be the
    only one with healthy legs. But, any species that behaves like this
    would extinct itself. So Nature installed emotions into us. This isn't "empathy", it is just the feeling inside all of us which makes us feel
    bad if we do something wrong to somebody else. But the logic still
    exists, so "organisms" which aren't born with this emotion do harm
    around them. Any organization where people don't vote for its leaders is
    evil (like Catholic church, or Communist Party). Because they behave per logic, it is good for them to do harm to anybody who is on their way.
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