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Why author removed from header of messages ?
Re: Greetings (Retro Guy)
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 16:20 CEST Newsgroups: rocksolid.social
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Greetings (Old)
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 10:14 CEST Newsgroups: rocksolid.social
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Author is not removed, it has been moved to the right of the subject:
Re: Greetings (Retro Guy)
Exactly,
Author: 's field has been removed,
violating Usenet standard
Author's name is never the part of the Subject: field
The actual header is intact. The web page makes it easier to find the author's name.
On 26.10.2024 um 10:57 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
The actual header is intact. The web page makes it easier to find the
author's name.
In my opinion, it is now harder to find the author, but that is just my opinion on this.
On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 20:10:02 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:
On 26.10.2024 um 10:57 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
The actual header is intact. The web page makes it easier to find the
author's name.
In my opinion, it is now harder to find the author, but that is just my
opinion on this.
Hmmm... I found the opposite, but that is just me, of course.
I'll mess with it a bit more.
On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 18:15:32 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 20:10:02 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:
On 26.10.2024 um 10:57 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
The actual header is intact. The web page makes it easier to find the
author's name.
In my opinion, it is now harder to find the author, but that is just my
opinion on this.
Hmmm... I found the opposite, but that is just me, of course.
I'll mess with it a bit more.
Ok, I have included both options.
Showing From below Subject is default. Showing to the right of Subject
is an overrides option. See pics:
Default:
https://postimg.cc/K4vKM7kN
Optional:
https://postimg.cc/dLgDpzWH
Will this work? I like to provide options :)
Author is not removed, it has been moved to the right of the subject:
Re: Greetings (Retro Guy)
Exactly,
Author: 's field has been removed,
violating Usenet standard
Author's name is never the part of the Subject: field
On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 22:06:03 +0000, darius wrote:
I am really sorry,
but there is no
From: field
any more
I assumed your test was to see if a long subject line truncated the
poster's name, but it does not. Unless it is for you, but I'm not you so
I don't know what you're seeing.
I'm attaching a pic of what I see for your message, and I see (darius)
Ok, you are smart developer, smart admin
but what matters is Usenet Standard
so "From" is the reqired header line
not to fool readers about the name of a genuine poster of a message.
Appending the name of the genuine poster to the Subject line is against
the Usenet Standard and is misguiding to the whole Usenet Community world-wide
Standard for Interchange of USENET Messages
Electronic mail, Usenet message, follow standards developed and set up
by The Universal Postal Union for surface mail.
What's more, every Usenet message is copyrighted, so any modification to
the content of the Subject line violates copyrights.
AI, Open AI, Chat GPT
can read content generated by your server as ASCII or as images
converted into ASCII via OCR.
AI, Open AI, Chat GPT can publish such content on the Internet or use to
feed knowledge databases, generating mess, since the original poster can
find his, her posts sent to Usenet, modified without any authorization
or his, her consent.
So every field in the header of Usenet message must be kept clean, unmodified, as selected and entered by the genuine author of the message
and every Usenet reader must follow the above standard.
Compliance to UPU standards is also checked, with a dedicated UPU
project. Check details in this page.
The "From:" field in Usenet is crucial for several reasons:
Identification: It helps identify the sender of a message, allowing readers to know who is posting. This is important in community
discussions, where the reputation and credibility of the poster can
influence the conversation.
Attribution: Proper attribution allows for accountability. Users can follow up on discussions, respond to specific individuals, or reference
past posts more easily.
Filtering: Users can filter or sort messages based on the sender.
This is useful in managing the volume of posts, especially in busy newsgroups.
Avoiding Spam and Abuse: Clear identification helps in moderating content. If a sender is known for spamming or abusive behavior, others
can easily avoid or report them.
Context: The "From:" field can provide context regarding the
messageos content. Different users may have different perspectives, and knowing who is speaking can help readers understand the viewpoint being presented.
In summary, the "From:" field enhances communication, accountability,
and organization within the Usenet community.
Electronic mail, Usenet message, follow standards developed and set up
by The Universal Postal Union for surface mail.
What's more, every Usenet message is copyrighted,
so any modification to
the content of the Subject line violates copyrights.
So every field in the header of Usenet message must be kept clean, unmodified, as selected and entered by the genuine author of the message
and every Usenet reader must follow the above standard.
Yes, messages sent to Usenet are generally subject to copyright. The
authors of the messages retain copyright over their original content,
just like any other written work. However, Usenet's decentralized and
open nature can complicate the enforcement of copyright, as messages can
be copied and redistributed by others. It's important to respect
copyright laws and the rights of authors when sharing or using content
from Usenet.
In the U.S., internet copyrights are primarily protected under the
Copyright Act of 1976, which grants creators exclusive rights to their
works. HererCOs an overview of how these protections work and examples of violations that can lead to court orders:
On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:55:27 +0000, darius wrote:mples of
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In the U.S., internet copyrights are primarily protected under the Copyright Act of 1976, which grants creators exclusive rights to their works. Here=E2=80=99s an overview of how these protections work and exa=
violations that can lead to court orders: =20=20
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All this because the Poster's name was moved to a different line.
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Retro Guy
On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:55:27 +0000, darius wrote:mples of
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In the U.S., internet copyrights are primarily protected under the Copyright Act of 1976, which grants creators exclusive rights to their works. Here=E2=80=99s an overview of how these protections work and exa=
violations that can lead to court orders: =20=20
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All this because the Poster's name was moved to a different line.
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Retro Guy
On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 13:16:29 +0000
Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:55:27 +0000, darius wrote:
In the U.S., internet copyrights are primarily protected under the
Copyright Act of 1976, which grants creators exclusive rights to their
works. Hereos an overview of how these protections work and examples of
violations that can lead to court orders:
<snip>
All this because the Poster's name was moved to a different line.
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Retro Guy
I should upgrade his status from concern troll to concern copyright troll. ;)
At least I have an excuse to practice the use of NoCem on Rocksolid Light.
Time to get busy protecting his copyright! Chop, chop!
Much better now
Subject line is again separated from the
From: (By) line
Subject line is oversized
Removing the name of the poster from the Subject line matters,
since I am followed by a hater, whose solely activity is to follow my threads, making hateful comments.
Appending Subject line with his name,
you have promoted the hater
since many assumed I added his name in the Subject line
on purpose
my replies don't appear in this thread
what's wrong ?
Ok now, thanks
Any chance to implement the following standard for headers as below ?
Re: Why author removed from header of messages ? (Test1) (Test2) (Test3) (Test4
From: Retro Guy
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 16:36 CET Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.general
<579ffa16bd0cebee971bb07bcdd7f4af@www.novabbs.com>
https://www.novabbs.com/rocksolid/article-flat.php?id=891&group=rocksolid.shared.general#891
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https://www.novabbs.com/interests/thread.php?group=soc.culture.polish
hard to read since Subject line is mixed with Author's name
Browser is not a problem
since I can read the last postings, replies from this group, correctly formatted, as below
Re: Why author removed from header of messages ? (Test1) (Test2) (Test3) (Test4
From: Retro Guy
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:20 CET Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.general
<310bf2ffd9c7da30292e594ab18493cd$1@novabbs.org>
https://www.novabbs.com/rocksolid/article-flat.php?id=893&group=rocksolid.shared.general#893
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Messages sent to this group, are formatted the other way
Tesla CEO once worked illegally in the United States. (From: darius)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 12:00 CET Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
<5c52a7f0440d16a962d2691847eb0bd9@www.novabbs.com>
https://www.novabbs.com/interests/article-flat.php?id=89408&group=soc.culture.polish#89408
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