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If I contact the same VIP using Twitter, Facebook, Telegram and 4
accounts on Zangi messanger, telling me on Twitter about his AI chat technology implemented, I can call him to verify if he is trying to fool
me in live chats.
But how to identify Chat Robot Poster on usenet ?
Do you have any idea ?
I makes no sense to join threads initated by Chat Robots.
I have had long chats with a VIP, as described above
and my friends warned me not to talk to chat robots on the internet.
I don't have real examples from the usenet right now, but recall
marketing spam traffic in early months of 2024, generated by some
servers, flooding Google Groups with Ts of ads.
If VIPs can use multi-accounts on Zangi messanger in parallel,
they can start flooding Usenet groups, generating never-ending
interactive traffic one day, making real, live Usenet to die.
Chat robots are smart today in live chat, but if I get multi-lines
response within just few seconds on Zangi messanger, I am sure, a human
can't type text so fast, in just few seconds.
Ok, users on Usenet can be redirected to pass "I am not a robot" test
first (Twitter and others)
captcha is an old, low-tech technology solution
What matters are global internet vip-s, flooding the world with multi-instances of chat bots.
I am in touch with No.1 global vip and he clearly advised me to use AI
chat technology on the internet,
so I must be smarter than he, not wasting my time on his AI chat bot experiments.
My solution is to replace live chat with live call, since voice chat
bots are still under development.
But I need solutions for Usenet, not to follow threads originated by
chat bots, since making voice call is not supported by Usenet
2/2
I chat with Elon Musk every day
He lives on X, Facebook, Telegramm, Whatsapp, TikTok, Zangi ....
at the same time
It's virtually not possible for a human to talk the whole day on tens of internet accounts.
So some or all of his accounts are served by chat robots since voice
calls are not picked up.
But Elon calls me his friend, me too, but life is for real
and I have founded #ForeverYoung Longevity Institute in Saudi Arabia
and discuss Natural Photodynamic Therapy to save lives of millions of
women diagnosed with breast cancer world-wide.
So I need tools to let me identify chat robots on Usenet to not waste my
time since
Elon is my test bed for chat robots.
Can you help me ?
I am sure, you can.
You are the best.
Elon once told me he was using AI and sent me from X to Zangi
Messenger to talk to him, and then there were 4 accounts on Zangi,
and then Telegram, Whatsapp, etc. etc.
Elon is the Number 1 Media Director in the world.
But I studied interactive media at MIT, Media Department 30 years ago
and I always told my students to limit social media activity, because
life is for real and social media are virtual worlds and only
stimulate the mind to hyperactivity, pinging it hundreds of times a
day.
And this is very harmful to the nervous system, because it overclocks
the brain waves from a relaxed state to an alert state, leading to
extreme intellectual exhaustion.
Here, social media works similarly to infrasound, the infrasound
vibrations generated by industrial wind farms. And infrasound
vibrations are transmitted through the ground kilometers away from
the wind turbine tower and vibrate the foundations of buildings,
walls, ceilings, windows, sleeping beds, and people subjected to
prolonged exposure to infrasound vibrations suffer extreme exhaustion
as they are subjected to insomnia on a daily basis, leading to
extreme exhaustion syndrome, heart attack, paralysis, Parkinson's and
rapid death due to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
Elon has lived on social media for years, and very actively, with 100 Facebook pages and 24-hour permanent chatting, constant intense
activity that can lead to extreme exhaustion and depression.
That's why it's so important to identify smart chat bots on usenet and suggest that Elon switch to chat bots and stop exhausting himself on
social media every day.
Because I talk to him for about an hour once a day, and after all, he
has millions of friends, fans all over the world, he has a family, he
has children, he has a house, he has his own private acitivities,
home, company, office, and he should save himself and limit his time
spent on social media so that he doesn't exhaust himself to the
extreme intellectually in a future.
He is No.1 in the media worlds today
Please help me.
Please help Elon.
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 16:56:16 +0000, darius wrote:
I have had long chats with a VIP, as described above
and my friends warned me not to talk to chat robots on the internet.
I don't have real examples from the usenet right now, but recall
marketing spam traffic in early months of 2024, generated by some
servers, flooding Google Groups with Ts of ads.
If VIPs can use multi-accounts on Zangi messanger in parallel,
they can start flooding Usenet groups, generating never-ending
interactive traffic one day, making real, live Usenet to die.
Chat robots are smart today in live chat, but if I get multi-lines
response within just few seconds on Zangi messanger, I am sure, a human
can't type text so fast, in just few seconds.
Some of us have created filters for bots in one particular use a while
back, which seemed to work ok. The point is that we need to see what
they're doing first (what criteria to use to filter). They're not all the same.
Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> writes:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 16:56:16 +0000, darius wrote:
I have had long chats with a VIP, as described above
and my friends warned me not to talk to chat robots on the internet.
I don't have real examples from the usenet right now, but recall
marketing spam traffic in early months of 2024, generated by some
servers, flooding Google Groups with Ts of ads.
If VIPs can use multi-accounts on Zangi messanger in parallel,
they can start flooding Usenet groups, generating never-ending
interactive traffic one day, making real, live Usenet to die.
Chat robots are smart today in live chat, but if I get multi-lines
response within just few seconds on Zangi messanger, I am sure, a human
can't type text so fast, in just few seconds.
Some of us have created filters for bots in one particular use a while
back, which seemed to work ok. The point is that we need to see what
they're doing first (what criteria to use to filter). They're not all
the
same.
I'm pretty sure the guy is talking not about simple spam bots, but about actual AI, spmething like ChatGPT.
One obvious way to deal with it would be using Web of Trust. We all
would be signing our messages with our PGP keys, and we read only
messages that we trust were created by real human. Retro Guy believes
that I'm a human, so he signed my certificate. I believe that darius is human, so I signed his certificate. This way Retro Guy can see messages
from darius. However, if he don't believe that darius is human (and
there is a big change he's not, considering the way he writes) and he is
is starting to believe I'm a bad actor introducing AI bots to real human discussions, he can revoke his signature from my certificate, and he and everyone who trust him will stop seeing messages from both me and
darius.
On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 20:21:17 +0000, Schlomo Goldberg wrote:
Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> writes:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 16:56:16 +0000, darius wrote:
I have had long chats with a VIP, as described above
and my friends warned me not to talk to chat robots on the internet.
I don't have real examples from the usenet right now, but recall
marketing spam traffic in early months of 2024, generated by some
servers, flooding Google Groups with Ts of ads.
If VIPs can use multi-accounts on Zangi messanger in parallel,
they can start flooding Usenet groups, generating never-ending
interactive traffic one day, making real, live Usenet to die.
Chat robots are smart today in live chat, but if I get multi-lines
response within just few seconds on Zangi messanger, I am sure, a human >>>> can't type text so fast, in just few seconds.
Some of us have created filters for bots in one particular use a while
back, which seemed to work ok. The point is that we need to see what
they're doing first (what criteria to use to filter). They're not all
the
same.
I'm pretty sure the guy is talking not about simple spam bots, but about
actual AI, spmething like ChatGPT.
I believe he is also, and so was I. There is (are) a bot in the de.
hierarchy that at least two admins are catching now, and have been for a while. We both issue NoCeM for the articles.
One obvious way to deal with it would be using Web of Trust. We all
would be signing our messages with our PGP keys, and we read only
messages that we trust were created by real human. Retro Guy believes
that I'm a human, so he signed my certificate. I believe that darius is
human, so I signed his certificate. This way Retro Guy can see messages
from darius. However, if he don't believe that darius is human (and
there is a big change he's not, considering the way he writes) and he is
is starting to believe I'm a bad actor introducing AI bots to real human
discussions, he can revoke his signature from my certificate, and he and
everyone who trust him will stop seeing messages from both me and
darius.
This is somewhat how FMS works in Freenet. You can read some of the
groups here: https://www.rocksolidbbs.com/fms/
The problem I see with WoT is the high cost to entry, and judging by
FMS, the absolute obsession with trust lists. There's a paranoia about
who's trust list to trust, how much, etc. It really takes away from the discussion, and really limits the number of contributors. I hope Usenet
never goes the direction of FMS.
Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> writes:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 20:21:17 +0000, Schlomo Goldberg wrote:
Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> writes:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 16:56:16 +0000, darius wrote:
I have had long chats with a VIP, as described above
and my friends warned me not to talk to chat robots on the internet. >>>>>
I don't have real examples from the usenet right now, but recall
marketing spam traffic in early months of 2024, generated by some
servers, flooding Google Groups with Ts of ads.
If VIPs can use multi-accounts on Zangi messanger in parallel,
they can start flooding Usenet groups, generating never-ending
interactive traffic one day, making real, live Usenet to die.
Chat robots are smart today in live chat, but if I get multi-lines
response within just few seconds on Zangi messanger, I am sure, a human >>>>> can't type text so fast, in just few seconds.
Some of us have created filters for bots in one particular use a while >>>> back, which seemed to work ok. The point is that we need to see what
they're doing first (what criteria to use to filter). They're not all
the
same.
I'm pretty sure the guy is talking not about simple spam bots, but about >>> actual AI, spmething like ChatGPT.
I believe he is also, and so was I. There is (are) a bot in the de.
hierarchy that at least two admins are catching now, and have been for a
while. We both issue NoCeM for the articles.
Can you provide some Message-IDs? I would like to take a look at it.
On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 6:20:03 +0000, Schlomo Goldberg wrote:
Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> writes:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 20:21:17 +0000, Schlomo Goldberg wrote:
Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> writes:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 16:56:16 +0000, darius wrote:
I have had long chats with a VIP, as described above
and my friends warned me not to talk to chat robots on the internet. >>>>>>
I don't have real examples from the usenet right now, but recall
marketing spam traffic in early months of 2024, generated by some
servers, flooding Google Groups with Ts of ads.
If VIPs can use multi-accounts on Zangi messanger in parallel,
they can start flooding Usenet groups, generating never-ending
interactive traffic one day, making real, live Usenet to die.
Chat robots are smart today in live chat, but if I get multi-lines >>>>>> response within just few seconds on Zangi messanger, I am sure, a human >>>>>> can't type text so fast, in just few seconds.
Some of us have created filters for bots in one particular use a while >>>>> back, which seemed to work ok. The point is that we need to see what >>>>> they're doing first (what criteria to use to filter). They're not all >>>>> the
same.
I'm pretty sure the guy is talking not about simple spam bots, but about >>>> actual AI, spmething like ChatGPT.
I believe he is also, and so was I. There is (are) a bot in the de.
hierarchy that at least two admins are catching now, and have been for a >>> while. We both issue NoCeM for the articles.
Can you provide some Message-IDs? I would like to take a look at it.
Take a look in news.lists.filters for NoCeM by i2pn2 and
eternal-september that list an above average number of posts. Here's an example:
<bot-spam-ddfbac20f3b8413e@nocem.i2pn2.org>
These lists provide all the Message-IDs.