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    From manta103g@manta103g@gmail.com (darius) to rocksolid.nodes.help on Fri Jul 5 23:14:44 2024
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    I really need it for
    Conference at OpenWHO


    https://www.novabbs.com/interests/article-flat.php?id=87152&group=soc.culture.polish#87152


    All I get is

    "Group is rebuilding... Please try again later

    I am an introvert

    It takes me a month to write abstract of a conference paper like this
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  • From Retro Guy@retroguy@novabbs.com to rocksolid.nodes.help on Sat Jul 6 08:18:41 2024
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    darius wrote:

    I really need it for
    Conference at OpenWHO


    https://www.novabbs.com/interests/article-flat.php?id=87152&group=soc.culture.polish#87152


    All I get is

    "Group is rebuilding... Please try again later

    I am an introvert

    It takes me a month to write abstract of a conference paper like this

    Sorry, I broke some stuff recently and I'm fixing it. :(

    You're article should be available now.
    --
    Retro Guy
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  • From manta103g@manta103g@gmail.com (darius) to rocksolid.nodes.help on Sat Jul 6 11:50:59 2024
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    thank you,
    you are really great

    I have got it now and saved to my disk
    since it takes me a month to write such free style draft

    In early days of the Internet it was easy to get some response but
    today, usenet is down, low traffic, low interest.

    I was really surprised, ResearchGate supports live questions and answers


    re. UV Index

    https://www.researchgate.net/search/publication?q=UV%20index


    https://www.researchgate.net/post/How_to_calculate_Ultraviolet_Protection_Factor_UPF

    How to calculate Ultraviolet Protection Factor (UPF)?


    MDPI is open source

    Recent Advances in Coumarin Derivatives and Their Metal Complexes
    Abstract submission deadline
    28 December 2024
    Manuscript submission deadline
    28 February 2025
    Viewed by
    393


    https://www.mdpi.com/topics/JWC7639CZU

    unfortunately questions, resembling interactive chat, are not supported

    Thank you, once again.
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  • From Retro Guy@retroguy@novabbs.com to rocksolid.nodes.help on Sat Jul 6 12:41:17 2024
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    darius wrote:

    thank you,
    you are really great

    I have got it now and saved to my disk
    since it takes me a month to write such free style draft

    Glad it's working.

    Don't forget that this is Usenet. You would be able to fetch the article
    from other servers, if necessary :)
    --
    Retro Guy
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  • From manta103g@manta103g@gmail.com (darius) to rocksolid.nodes.help on Sun Jul 7 20:46:43 2024
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    Exactly,

    you are right.

    I recall usenet readers from the past
    but really loved Dejanews for web based interface.

    Then moved to Usenet Google Groups, since Google aquired Dejanews
    and promised to maintain it to the end of the world

    The decision by Google to shut down Usenet Google Groups early 2024 was
    a great shock for the internet community.
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  • From Phoenix@phoenix@gmall.invalid to rocksolid.nodes.help on Mon Jul 8 12:50:17 2024
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    darius wrote:

    The decision by Google to shut down Usenet Google Groups early 2024 was
    a great shock for the internet community.

    And a greater relief to the usenet community.

    Good night googlegroups - you are not missed.
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  • From manta103g@manta103g@gmail.com (darius) to rocksolid.nodes.help on Mon Jul 8 18:17:50 2024
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    not sure what do you mean ?

    messages sent to usenet are not indexed by Google, Bing ... search
    engines
    so any activity on the usenet is local activity only, not attracting any interest from the internet world.

    Usenet Google Groups worked really fine but Google has had secrete plans
    to terminate service, so dismissed moderators to let spam to flood
    Usenet Google Groups.

    A single smart usenet admin, like Retro Guy, can keep his usenet groups
    spam free
    so Google should hire him to get Usenet Google Groups back into life

    There is nothing hot to spend one's internet life in sandbox like
    present usenet, cut off from the real internet world.

    Traffic is low, interaction is low
    so usenet is really cut off from the real internet world (24h live
    internet world)
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  • From Retro Guy@retroguy@novabbs.com to rocksolid.nodes.help on Mon Jul 8 20:13:13 2024
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    On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 18:17:50 +0000, in <53bd8b706f2d36ce0a51ab703cf932be@www.novabbs.com>, darius wrote:

    not sure what do you mean ?

    messages sent to usenet are not indexed by Google, Bing ... search
    engines
    so any activity on the usenet is local activity only, not attracting any interest from the internet world.

    Google, Bing, Yandex etc. crawl web interfaces like mine, and others I
    assume.

    Usenet Google Groups worked really fine but Google has had secrete plans
    to terminate service, so dismissed moderators to let spam to flood
    Usenet Google Groups.

    My guess is that they just didn't care. No secret plan, just neglect.
    But the world is full of secret plans, so it's possible.

    A single smart usenet admin, like Retro Guy, can keep his usenet groups
    spam free
    so Google should hire him to get Usenet Google Groups back into life

    I'm retired. I don't plan on going to work for someone unless absolutely necessary.

    There is nothing hot to spend one's internet life in sandbox like
    present usenet, cut off from the real internet world.

    Traffic is low, interaction is low
    so usenet is really cut off from the real internet world (24h live
    internet world)

    I think some would argue that Usenet is in the real internet world, and
    Google is, well, Google, a for profit company that uses the internet to
    make money.

    Without the internet, there is no Google. Without Google, there is still
    the internet. The internet pre-dates Google.

    my spell checker wanted to change 'pre-dates' to 'pee-dates'. ???
    --
    Retro Guy
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  • From manta103g@manta103g@gmail.com (darius) to rocksolid.nodes.help on Mon Jul 8 22:26:33 2024
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    I have co-founded my first internet corporation in 1993 in Austin, TX,
    well ahead of Google
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  • From manta103g@manta103g@gmail.com (darius) to rocksolid.nodes.help on Tue Jul 9 14:34:37 2024
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    https://archives.iw3c2.org/www1/PdfWWW94/speh.pdf
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  • From manta103g@manta103g@gmail.com (darius) to rocksolid.nodes.help on Tue Jul 9 22:17:41 2024
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    "Google, Bing, Yandex etc. crawl web interfaces like mine, and others I
    assume.

    Ok, but easy test fails.


    Subject line from this thread

    "Dear Retro Guy How to get my message for the records ?

    entered in Google, Bing, Yandex search engines

    generated the following results:


    Google:

    It looks like there aren't many great matches for your search
    Try using words that might appear on the page yourCOre looking for. For example, "cake recipes" instead of "how to make a cake."
    Need help? Take a look at other tips for searching on Google.

    computers / rocksolid.nodes.help
    novaBBS
    https://www.novabbs.com rC| rocksolid rC| thread
    Jun 3, 2020 rCo Dear Retro Guy How to get my message for the records ? By: darius on Fri, 5 Jul 2024. 3. 13 Hours 38 Minutes ago. By: Retro Guy. o
    nocem ...


    Jun 3, 2020 date is misguiding

    -----------------

    https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Dear+Retro+Guy+How+to+get+my+message+for+the+records%22%0D%0A&sca_esv=b34798ba992e8189&sca_upv=1&source=hp&ei=MbSNZs2HCfzVwPAPrueZoAk&iflsig=AL9hbdgAAAAAZo3CQSWMguLLIm5Sr2inV8G36ZrbC2wL&ved=0ahUKEwiN5IvW-5qHAxX8KhAIHa5zBpQQ4dUDCBU&uact=5&oq=%22Dear+Retro+Guy+How+to+get+my+message+for+the+records%22%0D%0A&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IjciRGVhciBSZXRybyBHdXkgSG93IHRvIGdldCBteSBtZXNzYWdlIGZvciB0aGUgcmVjb3JkcyIKSABQAFgAcAB4AJABAJgBAKABAKoBALgBA8gBAPgBAvgBAZgCAKACAJgDAJIHAKAHAA&sclient=gws-wiz

    redirects to

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.novabbs.com/rocksolid/thread.php%3Fgroup%3Drocksolid.nodes.help&ved=2ahUKEwjG9rHb-5qHAxVPPxAIHRG4AxcQFnoECBAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2xD5RJjOlOXsXj4fGyPY9_

    redirects to

    https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=rocksolid.nodes.help

    ===========


    Bing

    the same query string:

    "Dear Retro Guy How to get my message for the records"

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=+%22Dear+Retro+Guy+How+to+get+my+message+for+the+records%22&form=QBLH&sp=-1&ghc=2&lq=0&pq=+%22dear+retro+guy+how+to+get+my+message+for+the+records%22&sc=11-55&qs=n&sk=&cvid=6F5EB07CD407475584E571308ED63FFB&ghsh=0&ghacc=0&ghpl=


    no results

    ---

    Yandex



    the same query string:

    "Dear Retro Guy How to get my message for the records"


    https://yandex.com/search/?text=+%22Dear+Retro+Guy+How+to+get+my+message+for+the+records%22&lr=10472&search_source=yacom_desktop_common


    Couldn't find an exact match. Showing results for your query without
    quotes. Cancel
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  • From Retro Guy@retroguy@novabbs.com to rocksolid.nodes.help on Tue Jul 9 22:40:54 2024
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    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:17:41 +0000, in <b8707c1f4d8dc33a78149babd4baf7c6@www.novabbs.com>, darius wrote:

    "Google, Bing, Yandex etc. crawl web interfaces like mine, and others I assume.

    Ok, but easy test fails.


    Subject line from this thread

    "Dear Retro Guy How to get my message for the records ?

    entered in Google, Bing, Yandex search engines

    generated the following results:


    Google:

    It looks like there aren't many great matches for your search
    Try using words that might appear on the page yourCOre looking for. For example, "cake recipes" instead of "how to make a cake."
    Need help? Take a look at other tips for searching on Google.

    computers / rocksolid.nodes.help
    novaBBS
    https://www.novabbs.com rC| rocksolid rC| thread
    Jun 3, 2020 rCo Dear Retro Guy How to get my message for the records ? By: darius on Fri, 5 Jul 2024. 3. 13 Hours 38 Minutes ago. By: Retro Guy. o
    nocem ...


    Jun 3, 2020 date is misguiding

    I have no idea why Google shows that date. I don't believe it's on the
    site (novabbs)

    It's up to search engines to crawl, nothing I can do to change what they do/don't show. I'm not particularly bothered if these sites aren't
    listed.

    66.249.64.2 - - [09/Jul/2024:22:38:29 +0000] "GET /interests/article-flat.php?id=184172&group=alt.usage.english HTTP/1.1"
    200 26361 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; Nexus 5X Build/MMB29P) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/125.0.6422.175 Mobile Safari/537.36 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1;
    +http://www.google.com/bot.html)"
    66.249.70.141 - - [09/Jul/2024:22:38:32 +0000] "GET /devel/post.php?id=28908&type=reply&group=comp.lang.c HTTP/1.1" 200 1713
    "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; Nexus 5X Build/MMB29P) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/125.0.6422.175 Mobile Safari/537.36 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1;
    +http://www.google.com/bot.html)"
    66.249.64.15 - - [09/Jul/2024:22:38:54 +0000] "GET /aus+uk/thread.php?group=aus.tv HTTP/1.1" 200 8465 "-" "Mozilla/5.0
    (Linux; Android 6.0.1; Nexus 5X Build/MMB29P) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML,
    like Gecko) Chrome/125.0.6422.175 Mobile Safari/537.36 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)"

    I know I see the crawlers in my logs. What they do with the info they
    scoop up, I don't know.
    --
    Retro Guy
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  • From manta103g@manta103g@gmail.com (darius) to rocksolid.nodes.help on Wed Jul 10 12:11:47 2024
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    Frankly speaking, crawlers crawl the Internet for paid ads, to generate traffic.

    Since usenet groups don't represent any business opportunity for placing
    paid ads,
    data records generated by crawlers just go to trash.
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