• Clijsters on best female servers

    From Yama@yama212@yahoo.co.uk to rec.sport.tennis on Wed Jun 17 02:54:46 2026
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    I have been occassionally watching Roddick's Youtube channel, one of
    things often discussed there are great servers.

    In one episode, Clijsters listed five best female servers and it
    featured the usual suspects - Davenport, Serena, Venus and Stosur (no
    Lisicki, but did she play against her?) and one literal curveball...Dementieva.

    Most people would expect Dementieva to feature on bottom-5 worst servers all-time list. But she explained that Dementieva's much mocked second
    serve was actually frustrating to deal with, she did double-fault a lot,
    but if she lobbed it in, it was actually effective.

    Episode in question:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXeEHtuHCT4

    Whadda ya think? Was she just trolling the fans, maybe this was some
    inside rib? Otoh, I dug up some old post-match interviews, and Davenport
    and Capriati at least - when asked about why they didn't whack return
    winners off Dementieva's serve - grumbled something to effect that it
    isn't so easy.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@pelle@svans.los to rec.sport.tennis on Wed Jun 17 10:20:32 2026
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    On 17.6.2026 2.54, Yama wrote:
    I have been occassionally watching Roddick's Youtube channel, one of
    things often discussed there are great servers.

    In one episode, Clijsters listed five best female servers and it
    featured the usual suspects - Davenport, Serena, Venus and Stosur (no Lisicki, but did she play against her?) and one literal curveball...Dementieva.

    Most people would expect Dementieva to feature on bottom-5 worst servers all-time list. But she explained that Dementieva's much mocked second
    serve was actually frustrating to deal with, she did double-fault a lot,
    but if she lobbed it in, it was actually effective.

    Episode in question:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXeEHtuHCT4

    Whadda ya think? Was she just trolling the fans, maybe this was some
    inside rib? Otoh, I dug up some old post-match interviews, and Davenport
    and Capriati at least - when asked about why they didn't whack return winners off Dementieva's serve - grumbled something to effect that it
    isn't so easy.

    Most of the women hit flat those days. Flat hitters hate junk. It's not
    easy to generate your own pace and not be a slot machine.
    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
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  • From *skriptis@skriptis@post.t-com.hr to rec.sport.tennis on Wed Jun 17 09:23:20 2026
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    Pelle Svansl=C3=B6s <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
    On 17.6.2026 2.54, Yama wrote:> I have been occassionally watching Roddic=
    k's Youtube channel, one of > things often discussed there are great server=
    In one episode, Clijsters listed five best female servers and it > fe=
    atured the usual suspects - Davenport, Serena, Venus and Stosur (no > Lisic= ki, but did she play against her?) and one literal > curveball...Dementieva=
    Most people would expect Dementieva to feature on bottom-5 worst serve=
    rs > all-time list. But she explained that Dementieva's much mocked second =
    serve was actually frustrating to deal with, she did double-fault a lot, = but if she lobbed it in, it was actually effective.> > Episode in questio=
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIXeEHtuHCT4> > Whadda ya think? Was s=
    he just trolling the fans, maybe this was some > inside rib? Otoh, I dug up=
    some old post-match interviews, and Davenport > and Capriati at least - wh=
    en asked about why they didn't whack return > winners off Dementieva's serv=
    e - grumbled something to effect that it > isn't so easy.Most of the women = hit flat those days. Flat hitters hate junk. It's not easy to generate your=
    own pace and not be a slot machine.-- "And off they went, from here to the= re,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional




    Women steal money from men



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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@pelle@svans.los to rec.sport.tennis on Wed Jun 17 12:41:13 2026
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    On 17.6.2026 10.23, *skriptis wrote:
    Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
    On 17.6.2026 2.54, Yama wrote:> I have been occassionally watching Roddick's Youtube channel, one of > things often discussed there are great servers.> > In one episode, Clijsters listed five best female servers and it > featured the usual suspects - Davenport, Serena, Venus and Stosur (no > Lisicki, but did she play against her?) and one literal > curveball...Dementieva.> > Most people would expect Dementieva to feature on bottom-5 worst servers > all-time list. But she explained that Dementieva's much mocked second > serve was actually frustrating to deal with, she did double-fault a lot, > but if she lobbed it in, it was actually effective.> > Episode in question:> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXeEHtuHCT4> > Whadda ya think? Was she just trolling the fans, maybe this was some > inside rib? Otoh, I dug up some old post-match interviews, and Davenport > and Capriati at least - when asked about why they didn't whack return > winners off Dementieva's serve - grumbled something to effect that it > isn't so easy.Most of the women hit flat those days. Flat hitters hate junk. It's not easy to generate your own pace and not be a slot machine.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional




    Women steal money from men

    Mother nature's old plot.
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    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional
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  • From Whisper@whisper999@ozemail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Thu Jun 18 00:04:31 2026
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    On 17/06/2026 5:23 pm, *skriptis wrote:
    Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
    On 17.6.2026 2.54, Yama wrote:> I have been occassionally watching Roddick's Youtube channel, one of > things often discussed there are great servers.> > In one episode, Clijsters listed five best female servers and it > featured the usual suspects - Davenport, Serena, Venus and Stosur (no > Lisicki, but did she play against her?) and one literal > curveball...Dementieva.> > Most people would expect Dementieva to feature on bottom-5 worst servers > all-time list. But she explained that Dementieva's much mocked second > serve was actually frustrating to deal with, she did double-fault a lot, > but if she lobbed it in, it was actually effective.> > Episode in question:> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXeEHtuHCT4> > Whadda ya think? Was she just trolling the fans, maybe this was some > inside rib? Otoh, I dug up some old post-match interviews, and Davenport > and Capriati at least - when asked about why they didn't whack return > winners off Dementieva's serve - grumbled something to effect that it > isn't so easy.Most of the women hit flat those days. Flat hitters hate junk. It's not easy to generate your own pace and not be a slot machine.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional




    Women steal money from men





    lol best answer : )
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  • From Scall5@nospam@home.net to rec.sport.tennis on Thu Jun 18 18:33:54 2026
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    On 6/17/2026 2:20 AM, Pelle Svansl||s wrote:
    On 17.6.2026 2.54, Yama wrote:
    I have been occassionally watching Roddick's Youtube channel, one of
    things often discussed there are great servers.

    In one episode, Clijsters listed five best female servers and it
    featured the usual suspects - Davenport, Serena, Venus and Stosur (no
    Lisicki, but did she play against her?) and one literal
    curveball...Dementieva.

    Most people would expect Dementieva to feature on bottom-5 worst
    servers all-time list. But she explained that Dementieva's much mocked
    second serve was actually frustrating to deal with, she did double-
    fault a lot, but if she lobbed it in, it was actually effective.

    Episode in question:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXeEHtuHCT4

    Whadda ya think? Was she just trolling the fans, maybe this was some
    inside rib? Otoh, I dug up some old post-match interviews, and
    Davenport and Capriati at least - when asked about why they didn't
    whack return winners off Dementieva's serve - grumbled something to
    effect that it isn't so easy.

    Most of the women hit flat those days. Flat hitters hate junk. It's not
    easy to generate your own pace and not be a slot machine.


    I always *hated* playing pushers back in the day. Nowadays, I will not
    play with a lob-often player. To pussy for me...
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