• How to Win Eurovision With Just a Few Hundred Voters

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@pelle@svans.los to rec.sport.tennis on Mon May 18 18:22:34 2026
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    Over 56 million music fans tuned in to last yearrCOs Eurovision Song
    Contest final, making it the worldrCOs most watched cultural event.
    Viewers cast 14 million votes to help choose the winner, organizers said.

    But almost immediately after the competition, fans began questioning
    whether an Israeli government advertising campaign had tipped the
    popular vote in favor of IsraelrCOs contestant, despite EurovisionrCOs longstanding tradition of government neutrality.

    Organizers assured the public that there were no voting irregularities.
    And they privately told broadcasters that Israel had not influenced the outcome. But they did not commission an outside review, The New York
    Times found. And they did not release voting data. Doing so, they said,
    would undermine the contestrCOs security.

    Data obtained by The Times shows that, in some countries, just a few
    hundred people would have been enough to secure a popular vote victory.
    That makes the contest far more susceptible to government influence
    campaigns than organizers have acknowledged.

    HererCOs a look at how thatrCOs possible, using data from Spain, one of several countries where Israel won the popular vote. The win came as
    polls showed that Spaniards were sharply critical of the Israeli
    government. Such wins helped prompt demands from some broadcasters to
    see the underlying data.

    We obtained the final percentages in SpainrCOs popular vote. Using the
    vote total announced by the Spanish broadcaster RTVE, that gave us the
    final tally (rounded) for each contestant.

    The Israeli singer Yuval Raphael won overwhelmingly. Ukraine finished a distant second. (People cannot cast votes for their own countryrCOs contestant.)

    At first glance, this looks like a landslide. And it would have been rCo
    if each person had one vote.

    But Eurovision allowed people to vote up to 20 times. And the Israeli government ran a campaign to try to influence voting.

    IsraelrCOs government placed online advertisements. Diplomats and advocacy groups drummed up support. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu posted a
    graphic to social media encouraging people to vote 20 times for Ms.
    Raphael. Pro-Israel groups across Europe posted the same or similar
    graphics.

    Just a few thousand people, casting 20 votes each, could have gotten her
    the 47,000-plus votes.

    But Ms. Raphael did not even need all those voters. She only needed to
    beat the Ukrainian group that finished second, with about 9,620 votes.
    It would have taken just a few hundred people, voting en masse, to
    secure Ms. RaphaelrCOs victory.

    How does Eurovision voting work?

    First, juries of music industry professionals rank the singers. The
    winner gets 12 points, second place gets 10, and others receive fewer.

    Then, people in each country vote for their favorite acts, with points
    awarded on the same scale. Viewers pay for each vote.

    ThatrCOs why Eurovision doesnrCOt simply enact a one-person-one-vote policy, said Stephan Teiwes, a former longtime Eurovision voting monitor.

    rCLItrCOs about money,rCY he said.

    Eurovision says that is untrue and it simply wants to offer people opportunities to vote for more than one act.

    Why has recent voting been controversial?

    Last year, EurovisionrCOs juries said AustriarCOs song was the best, giving
    it 258 points. Ms. Raphael and her ballad, rCLNew Day Will Rise,rCY received just 60 jury points.

    But Ms. Raphael soared to the top of the public vote, with 297 points.
    When the tallies were combined, Ms. Raphael finished second.

    Speculation spread online that Israeli bots had skewed the vote. Achiya Schatz, the director of the Israeli disinformation watchdog
    FakeReporter, said his group had studied the matter and found no
    evidence of bot activity.

    But bots were unnecessary.

    rCLThere clearly was a coordinated and funded digital campaign by Israel
    to mobilize support,rCY Mr. Schatz said.

    Was urging voting against the contestrCOs rules?

    No, and organizations that campaigned for Israel see nothing wrong with
    doing so.

    But it is against tradition, and Eurovision is adamant that its contest
    remain free from political influence. Martin Green, the contestrCOs
    director, said IsraelrCOs campaign last year was excessive. And some broadcasters have accused Israel of hijacking the contest for political messaging.

    Eurovision says everything is fine

    Mr. Green said IsraelrCOs success last year was the result of a rCLmotivated diasporarCY and a great song.

    Eurovision rCLcanrCOt be won on the public vote alone, obviously,rCY he said. Jurors, he said, provide a backstop.

    After the controversy last year, Eurovision banned what it called rCLdisproportionaterCY promotion campaigns, particularly when undertaken by rCLthird parties, including governments.rCY

    And Eurovision lowered the voting cap to 10 per person.

    Under that standard, Israel would have needed 963 voters last year to
    win SpainrCOs popular vote.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/11/world/europe/eurovision-israel-votes.html

    Everything is not fine. We, the people, need to take back our contest.
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  • From Sawfish@sawfish666@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Mon May 18 09:18:28 2026
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    On 5/18/26 8:22 AM, Pelle Svansl||s wrote:
    Over 56 million music fans tuned in to last yearrCOs Eurovision Song
    Contest final, making it the worldrCOs most watched cultural event.
    Viewers cast 14 million votes to help choose the winner, organizers said.

    But almost immediately after the competition, fans began questioning
    whether an Israeli government advertising campaign had tipped the
    popular vote in favor of IsraelrCOs contestant, despite EurovisionrCOs longstanding tradition of government neutrality.

    Organizers assured the public that there were no voting irregularities.
    And they privately told broadcasters that Israel had not influenced the outcome. But they did not commission an outside review, The New York
    Times found. And they did not release voting data. Doing so, they said, would undermine the contestrCOs security.

    Data obtained by The Times shows that, in some countries, just a few
    hundred people would have been enough to secure a popular vote victory.
    That makes the contest far more susceptible to government influence campaigns than organizers have acknowledged.

    HererCOs a look at how thatrCOs possible, using data from Spain, one of several countries where Israel won the popular vote. The win came as
    polls showed that Spaniards were sharply critical of the Israeli
    government. Such wins helped prompt demands from some broadcasters to
    see the underlying data.

    We obtained the final percentages in SpainrCOs popular vote. Using the
    vote total announced by the Spanish broadcaster RTVE, that gave us the
    final tally (rounded) for each contestant.

    The Israeli singer Yuval Raphael won overwhelmingly. Ukraine finished a distant second. (People cannot cast votes for their own countryrCOs contestant.)

    At first glance, this looks like a landslide. And it would have been rCo
    if each person had one vote.

    But Eurovision allowed people to vote up to 20 times. And the Israeli government ran a campaign to try to influence voting.

    IsraelrCOs government placed online advertisements. Diplomats and advocacy groups drummed up support. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu posted a graphic to social media encouraging people to vote 20 times for Ms.
    Raphael. Pro-Israel groups across Europe posted the same or similar graphics.

    Just a few thousand people, casting 20 votes each, could have gotten her
    the 47,000-plus votes.

    But Ms. Raphael did not even need all those voters. She only needed to
    beat the Ukrainian group that finished second, with about 9,620 votes.
    It would have taken just a few hundred people, voting en masse, to
    secure Ms. RaphaelrCOs victory.

    How does Eurovision voting work?

    First, juries of music industry professionals rank the singers. The
    winner gets 12 points, second place gets 10, and others receive fewer.

    Then, people in each country vote for their favorite acts, with points awarded on the same scale. Viewers pay for each vote.

    ThatrCOs why Eurovision doesnrCOt simply enact a one-person-one-vote policy, said Stephan Teiwes, a former longtime Eurovision voting monitor.

    rCLItrCOs about money,rCY he said.

    Eurovision says that is untrue and it simply wants to offer people opportunities to vote for more than one act.

    Why has recent voting been controversial?

    Last year, EurovisionrCOs juries said AustriarCOs song was the best, giving it 258 points. Ms. Raphael and her ballad, rCLNew Day Will Rise,rCY received just 60 jury points.

    But Ms. Raphael soared to the top of the public vote, with 297 points.
    When the tallies were combined, Ms. Raphael finished second.

    Speculation spread online that Israeli bots had skewed the vote. Achiya Schatz, the director of the Israeli disinformation watchdog
    FakeReporter, said his group had studied the matter and found no
    evidence of bot activity.

    But bots were unnecessary.

    rCLThere clearly was a coordinated and funded digital campaign by Israel
    to mobilize support,rCY Mr. Schatz said.

    Was urging voting against the contestrCOs rules?

    No, and organizations that campaigned for Israel see nothing wrong with doing so.

    But it is against tradition, and Eurovision is adamant that its contest remain free from political influence. Martin Green, the contestrCOs director, said IsraelrCOs campaign last year was excessive. And some broadcasters have accused Israel of hijacking the contest for political messaging.

    Eurovision says everything is fine

    Mr. Green said IsraelrCOs success last year was the result of a rCLmotivated diasporarCY and a great song.

    Eurovision rCLcanrCOt be won on the public vote alone, obviously,rCY he said.
    Jurors, he said, provide a backstop.

    After the controversy last year, Eurovision banned what it called rCLdisproportionaterCY promotion campaigns, particularly when undertaken by rCLthird parties, including governments.rCY

    And Eurovision lowered the voting cap to 10 per person.

    Under that standard, Israel would have needed 963 voters last year to
    win SpainrCOs popular vote.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/11/world/europe/eurovision-israel- votes.html

    Everything is not fine. We, the people, need to take back our contest.


    I wonder how it would work if they just played the vocal performance, no images, no names. Judging solely on vocal rendition.

    Probably get 5 votes, total count.

    No fun.
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