• Re: Re:Is the good bad and the ugly

    From Scall5@nospam@home.net to rec.sport.tennis on Thu May 7 18:52:55 2026
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    On 5/2/2026 6:10 PM, *skriptis wrote:
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    The greatest movie ever?I think it is. It is very hard to put another one above it.It probably annoys Americans that Europeans, Italians made best movie ever and on top of that in genre that's quintessentialy American but it is what it is. At least some top actors are Americans.Everything is near perfect in that movie and some stuff is truly perfect.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html



    The only negative would be two prequels that were sort of learning curve if that's what you might consider negative but if not then it's arguably not only the best movie ever but also best trilogy ever.

    I would agree, nothing else comes to mind for me anyway.
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  • From jdeluise@jdeluise@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Tue May 12 01:21:50 2026
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    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    The greatest movie ever?


    I think it is. It is very hard to put another one above it.

    It probably annoys Americans that Europeans, Italians made best
    movie ever and on top of that in genre that's quintessentialy
    American but it is what it is. At least some top actors are
    Americans.

    Everything is near perfect in that movie and some stuff is truly
    perfect.

    It was good, but I say "Harakiri" is better. Interestingly, they
    share similar themes about the (lack of) meaning of honor,
    although told from very different perspectives. Have you seen it?
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  • From *skriptis@skriptis@post.t-com.hr to rec.sport.tennis on Tue May 12 11:46:11 2026
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    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:> The greatest movie ever?>>> I think it is. It is very hard to put another one above it.>> It probably annoys Americans that Europeans, Italians made best > movie ever and on top of that in genre that's quintessentialy > American but it is what it is. At least some top actors are > Americans.>> Everything is near perfect in that movie and some stuff is truly > perfect.It was good, but I say "Harakiri" is better. Interestingly, they share similar themes about the (lack of) meaning of honor, although told from very different perspectives. Have you seen it?



    No, I read the plot now and it seems complicated, but I get the picture and why would it rank highly. The theme is sort of evergreen.

    But I wonder how accurate it is?

    The story happens in 1600s, so a long time ago, and in post WW2 Japan I guess there was lots of revisionism and national history bashing.

    But for sure, I think samurai and their code is lots of propaganda so a bit deconstructing is ok.



    I am not a huge move fan, I mostly watch stuff I bump into. I admit I tended to avoid Asian movies, not because I chose so, but because they're not often on TV.

    This one is classic but I missed many others, so not an exception. For example I've never seen Jurassic park either.


    My admiration for the good, bad and the ugly is also very subjective.

    It's because I didn't expect such a colossal movie when I first saw it, never heard of it, no one told me about it, and it was just wow, I was never impressed with any movie to the same degree.

    Some others, like doctor Zhivago, I've heard of them so you kinda prepare for them, raise your expectations...

    I barely knew Clint Eastwood was in westerns at the time, I knew him as Dirty Harry.

    I've heard he was in westerns, but I've heard McCoy from star trek was in westerns too, I thought it was some similar lesser stuff.
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  • From Sawfish@sawfish666@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Tue May 12 06:34:56 2026
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    On 5/12/26 2:21 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    The greatest movie ever?


    I think it is. It is very hard to put another one above it.

    It probably annoys Americans that Europeans, Italians made best movie
    ever and on top of that in genre that's quintessentialy American but
    it is what it is. At least some top actors are Americans.

    Everything is near perfect in that movie and some stuff is truly perfect.

    It was good, but I say "Harakiri" is better.-a Interestingly, they share similar themes about the (lack of) meaning of honor, although told from
    very different perspectives.-a Have you seen it?

    There are two films I saw at the theatre where a scene is disturbing
    enough that some viewers get up and leave the auditorium. The bamboo
    tanto scene is one.

    The other film, Time of Violence, had waves of such scenes, so that the auditorium became much emptier after about and hour.
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  • From Sawfish@sawfish666@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Tue May 12 06:39:32 2026
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    On 5/12/26 2:46 AM, *skriptis wrote:
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:> The greatest movie ever?>>> I think it is. It is very hard to put another one above it.>> It probably annoys Americans that Europeans, Italians made best > movie ever and on top of that in genre that's quintessentialy > American but it is what it is. At least some top actors are > Americans.>> Everything is near perfect in that movie and some stuff is truly > perfect.It was good, but I say "Harakiri" is better. Interestingly, they share similar themes about the (lack of) meaning of honor, although told from very different perspectives. Have you seen it?



    No, I read the plot now and it seems complicated, but I get the picture and why would it rank highly. The theme is sort of evergreen.

    But I wonder how accurate it is?

    The story happens in 1600s, so a long time ago, and in post WW2 Japan I guess there was lots of revisionism and national history bashing.

    But for sure, I think samurai and their code is lots of propaganda so a bit deconstructing is ok.



    I am not a huge move fan, I mostly watch stuff I bump into. I admit I tended to avoid Asian movies, not because I chose so, but because they're not often on TV.

    This one is classic but I missed many others, so not an exception. For example I've never seen Jurassic park either.


    My admiration for the good, bad and the ugly is also very subjective.

    It's because I didn't expect such a colossal movie when I first saw it, never heard of it, no one told me about it, and it was just wow, I was never impressed with any movie to the same degree.

    I'm so revolted by Eli Wallach that I cannot bear to see a film he's in.

    Like with Meryl Streep and Sandy Dennis.

    But Van Cleef, like Jack Palance, are super-duper villains, huh?


    Some others, like doctor Zhivago, I've heard of them so you kinda prepare for them, raise your expectations...

    I barely knew Clint Eastwood was in westerns at the time, I knew him as Dirty Harry.

    I've heard he was in westerns, but I've heard McCoy from star trek was in westerns too, I thought it was some similar lesser stuff.



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  • From *skriptis@skriptis@post.t-com.hr to rec.sport.tennis on Tue May 12 16:14:21 2026
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    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 5/12/26 2:21 AM, jdeluise wrote:> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> w=
    rites:> >> The greatest movie ever?>>>>>> I think it is. It is very hard to=
    put another one above it.>>>> It probably annoys Americans that Europeans,=
    Italians made best movie >> ever and on top of that in genre that's quinte= ssentialy American but >> it is what it is. At least some top actors are Am= ericans.>>>> Everything is near perfect in that movie and some stuff is tru=
    ly perfect.> > It was good, but I say "Harakiri" is better. Interestingly,=
    they share > similar themes about the (lack of) meaning of honor, although=
    told from > very different perspectives. Have you seen it?There are two f= ilms I saw at the theatre where a scene is disturbing enough that some view= ers get up and leave the auditorium. The bamboo tanto scene is one.The othe=
    r film, Time of Violence, had waves of such scenes, so that the auditorium = became much emptier after about and hour.-- --Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"I wouldn't want to be= long to a club that would accept someone like meas a member." --G. Marx



    They claim salo is unwatchable as well?


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sal=C3=B2,_or_the_120_Days_of_Sodom







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  • From Sawfish@sawfish666@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Tue May 12 07:53:46 2026
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    On 5/12/26 7:14 AM, *skriptis wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 5/12/26 2:21 AM, jdeluise wrote:> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:> >> The greatest movie ever?>>>>>> I think it is. It is very hard to put another one above it.>>>> It probably annoys Americans that Europeans, Italians made best movie >> ever and on top of that in genre that's quintessentialy American but >> it is what it is. At least some top actors are Americans.>>>> Everything is near perfect in that movie and some stuff is truly perfect.> > It was good, but I say "Harakiri" is better. Interestingly, they share > similar themes about the (lack of) meaning of honor, although told from > very different perspectives. Have you seen it?There are two films I saw at the theatre where a scene is disturbing enough that some viewers get up and leave the auditorium. The bamboo tanto scene is one.The other film, Time of Violence, had waves of such scenes, so that the auditorium became much emptier after about and hour.-- --Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"I wouldn't want to belong to a club that would accept someone like meas a member." --G. Marx



    They claim salo is unwatchable as well?


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sal|#,_or_the_120_Days_of_Sodom

    Oh, fer shits sake. I've heard of that one often, ever since it came
    out. My guess is that it's got a whole lot of unsavory homo stuff.

    Similarly, my daughter told me about a movie her friends rented in
    college to see just how gross it could be. I'm thinking that the title
    was something like "Centipede" or "Human Centipede".

    WRT Time of Violence, it's a Bulgarian film about the Ottoman
    occupation and the devshirme.

    I guess one of my favorites is "Last Tango in Paris". It had a really
    French feel to it (Bertolucci, I know) in that it focuses on deep
    character of the sort of person you are glad you don't know, yourself.
    But interesting in a tragic sort of way,
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  • From Whisper@whisper@ozemail.com.au to rec.sport.tennis on Thu May 14 02:15:22 2026
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    On 12/05/2026 11:39 pm, Sawfish wrote:
    On 5/12/26 2:46 AM, *skriptis wrote:

    I'm so revolted by Eli Wallach that I cannot bear to see a film he's in.

    Like with Meryl Streep and Sandy Dennis.


    For some weird reason I was captivated by Sandy in my early teens. She
    seemed very unique to me at the time, especially the way she talked. I couldn't take my eyes off her, she had an x factor for sure. 'Who's
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  • From Sawfish@sawfish666@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Wed May 13 09:51:19 2026
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    On 5/13/26 9:15 AM, Whisper wrote:
    On 12/05/2026 11:39 pm, Sawfish wrote:
    On 5/12/26 2:46 AM, *skriptis wrote:

    I'm so revolted by Eli Wallach that I cannot bear to see a film he's in.

    Like with Meryl Streep and Sandy Dennis.


    For some weird reason I was captivated by Sandy in my early teens.-a She seemed very unique to me at the time, especially the way she talked.-a I couldn't take my eyes off her, she had an x factor for sure. 'Who's
    Afraid of Virginia Woolf' is one of those films you can watch over and
    over.

    Let's play hump the hostess?
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