• The cruelest man on the tour makes history again!

    From kalevi@kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) to rec.sport.tennis on Sun May 3 16:38:58 2026
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    Hello!

    Jannik Sinner, the cruelest man on the ATP tour, has
    made history again: 5 consecutive ATP1000 Masters
    titles and 28 consecutive wins in those events.

    Sasha Zverev could do nothing to stop him today! What
    a performance by Jannik Sinner!

    Congratulations to Sinner, his team and to the
    whole nation of Italy!

    br,
    KK
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  • From *skriptis@skriptis@post.t-com.hr to rec.sport.tennis on Mon May 4 00:55:36 2026
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    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 5/3/26 9:38 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:> Hello!> > Jannik Sinner, the cruelest man on the ATP tour, has> made history again: 5 consecutive ATP1000 Masters> titles and 28 consecutive wins in those events.> > Sasha Zverev could do nothing to stop him today! What> a performance by Jannik Sinner!> > Congratulations to Sinner, his team and to the> whole nation of Italy!> > br,> KKSinner is Italian in the same sense that Zverev is German.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make Woke."--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    Well Sinner is a native there and his coethnics live there whereas zverev is imported.

    One is imposed, forced civic identity on entire group the other is well, exactly your point.

    Kinda like Navajos being American vs your folks. One group didn't get to choose.
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  • From Sawfish@sawfish666@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Sun May 3 15:37:01 2026
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    On 5/3/26 9:38 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Hello!

    Jannik Sinner, the cruelest man on the ATP tour, has
    made history again: 5 consecutive ATP1000 Masters
    titles and 28 consecutive wins in those events.

    Sasha Zverev could do nothing to stop him today! What
    a performance by Jannik Sinner!

    Congratulations to Sinner, his team and to the
    whole nation of Italy!

    br,
    KK

    Sinner is Italian in the same sense that Zverev is German.
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  • From *skriptis@skriptis@post.t-com.hr to rec.sport.tennis on Mon May 4 08:01:21 2026
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    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    All it takes is travel...


    Yeah, Zverev came to Germany, while Italy came to Sinner, that's my point.




    Diverting a bit, did you see Lendl as Slavic or Germanic?

    Lendl is kinda selfish and individualistic type to the fullest so I reckon you might think we should see him as more Germanic, but I would not say that.

    Germans are kinda communal as well. At least they were. People can change more easily, while changing the whole community and their mentality is harder and longer.


    Czechs are very much Germanic, same way East Germans or Austrians are quite Slavic, it's pretty much similar in terms of DNA.

    The major difference being language. Hitler considered them fit for full aryanisation, only wanted to force German language on them so that they could be incorporated.

    Funnily, since he was good with Mussolini he was willing to accept Sinner folks and their region staying in Italy? He was screaming to get all lost German territories back and acquire new ones that are populated by Germans but didn't touch Sinner.

    The Tyrol was part of Austrian empire, populated by Germans, and after ww1 Tyrol was split, north stayed in Austria and South Tyrol was given to italy.

    Hitler never pushed that.

    He only added South Tyrol to Germany after Italy capitulated in 1943.


    It's named "alpine foreland" here.

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Grossdeutsches_Reich_NS_Administration_1944.png
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  • From Sawfish@sawfish666@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Sun May 3 21:19:47 2026
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    On 5/3/26 3:55 PM, *skriptis wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 5/3/26 9:38 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:> Hello!> > Jannik Sinner, the cruelest man on the ATP tour, has> made history again: 5 consecutive ATP1000 Masters> titles and 28 consecutive wins in those events.> > Sasha Zverev could do nothing to stop him today! What> a performance by Jannik Sinner!> > Congratulations to Sinner, his team and to the> whole nation of Italy!> > br,> KKSinner is Italian in the same sense that Zverev is German.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make Woke."--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    Well Sinner is a native there and his coethnics live there whereas zverev is imported.

    One is imposed, forced civic identity on entire group the other is well, exactly your point.

    Kinda like Navajos being American vs your folks. One group didn't get to choose.




    All it takes is travel...

    Diverting a bit, did you see Lendl as Slavic or Germanic?
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  • From Sawfish@sawfish666@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Mon May 4 08:48:49 2026
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    On 5/3/26 11:01 PM, *skriptis wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    All it takes is travel...


    Yeah, Zverev came to Germany, while Italy came to Sinner, that's my point.




    Diverting a bit, did you see Lendl as Slavic or Germanic?

    Lendl is kinda selfish and individualistic type to the fullest so I reckon you might think we should see him as more Germanic, but I would not say that.

    Germans are kinda communal as well. At least they were. People can change more easily, while changing the whole community and their mentality is harder and longer.


    Czechs are very much Germanic, same way East Germans or Austrians are quite Slavic, it's pretty much similar in terms of DNA.

    The major difference being language. Hitler considered them fit for full aryanisation, only wanted to force German language on them so that they could be incorporated.

    Funnily, since he was good with Mussolini he was willing to accept Sinner folks and their region staying in Italy? He was screaming to get all lost German territories back and acquire new ones that are populated by Germans but didn't touch Sinner.

    The Tyrol was part of Austrian empire, populated by Germans, and after ww1 Tyrol was split, north stayed in Austria and South Tyrol was given to italy.

    Hitler never pushed that.

    He only added South Tyrol to Germany after Italy capitulated in 1943.


    It's named "alpine foreland" here.

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Grossdeutsches_Reich_NS_Administration_1944.png





    To me, this is a good discussion.

    The map reminds me that I had worked with a guy, nominally Romanian, but
    who was much more blond and tall/large than any of the other Romanians
    I've dealt with here on the west coast of the US. A surprising amount
    are here, really.

    They've been of two types: a darker, shorter group who look a bit like Spaniards, and then the outlier, like this guy I was mentioning. His
    accent was German, even to my ear. He told me that there's a large
    "communal" population of Germans in Romanian that have been there
    centuries, as I recall it. They speak German mostly and it's easy to see
    the difference.

    Hah! Here's a generalization for ya: Romanian women are
    disproportionately knock-outs--really pretty.
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  • From *skriptis@skriptis@post.t-com.hr to rec.sport.tennis on Mon May 4 20:44:10 2026
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    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 5/3/26 11:01 PM, *skriptis wrote:> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrot=
    e in message:>> All it takes is travel...> > > Yeah, Zverev came to Germany=
    , while Italy came to Sinner, that's my point.> > > > >> Diverting a bit, d=
    id you see Lendl as Slavic or Germanic?> > Lendl is kinda selfish and indiv= idualistic type to the fullest so I reckon you might think we should see hi=
    m as more Germanic, but I would not say that.> > Germans are kinda communal=
    as well. At least they were. People can change more easily, while changing=
    the whole community and their mentality is harder and longer.> > > Czechs = are very much Germanic, same way East Germans or Austrians are quite Slavic=
    , it's pretty much similar in terms of DNA.> > The major difference being l= anguage. Hitler considered them fit for full aryanisation, only wanted to f= orce German language on them so that they could be incorporated.> > Funnily=
    , since he was good with Mussolini he was willing to accept Sinner folks an=
    d their region staying in Italy? He was screaming to get all lost German te= rritories back and acquire new ones that are populated by Germans but didn'=
    t touch Sinner.> > The Tyrol was part of Austrian empire, populated by Germ= ans, and after ww1 Tyrol was split, north stayed in Austria and South Tyrol=
    was given to italy.> > Hitler never pushed that.> > He only added South Ty= rol to Germany after Italy capitulated in 1943.> > > It's named "alpine for= eland" here.> > https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Grossdeutsches_Reich_= NS_Administration_1944.png> > > > To me, this is a good discussion.The map = reminds me that I had worked with a guy, nominally Romanian, but who was mu=
    ch more blond and tall/large than any of the other Romanians I've dealt wit=
    h here on the west coast of the US. A surprising amount are here, really.Th= ey've been of two types: a darker, shorter group who look a bit like Spania= rds, and then the outlier, like this guy I was mentioning. His accent was G= erman, even to my ear. He told me that there's a large "communal" populatio=
    n of Germans in Romanian that have been there centuries, as I recall it. Th=
    ey speak German mostly and it's easy to see the difference.Hah! Here's a ge= neralization for ya: Romanian women are disproportionately knock-outs--real=
    ly pretty.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The food at the new restaurant was awful--but at least the po= rtionswere large!" --Sawfish




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  • From Scall5@nospam@home.net to rec.sport.tennis on Thu May 7 18:59:11 2026
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    On 5/4/2026 10:48 AM, Sawfish wrote:
    On 5/3/26 11:01 PM, *skriptis wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    All it takes is travel...


    Yeah, Zverev came to Germany, while Italy came to Sinner, that's my
    point.




    Diverting a bit, did you see Lendl as Slavic or Germanic?

    Lendl is kinda selfish and individualistic type to the fullest so I
    reckon you might think we should see him as more Germanic, but I would
    not say that.

    Germans are kinda communal as well. At least they were. People can
    change more easily, while changing the whole community and their
    mentality is harder and longer.


    Czechs are very much Germanic, same way East Germans or Austrians are
    quite Slavic, it's pretty much similar in terms of DNA.

    The major difference being language. Hitler considered them fit for
    full aryanisation, only wanted to force German language on them so
    that they could be incorporated.

    Funnily, since he was good with Mussolini he was willing to accept
    Sinner folks and their region staying in Italy? He was screaming to
    get all lost German territories back and acquire new ones that are
    populated by Germans but didn't touch Sinner.

    The Tyrol was part of Austrian empire, populated by Germans, and after
    ww1 Tyrol was split, north stayed in Austria and South Tyrol was given
    to italy.

    Hitler never pushed that.

    He only added South Tyrol to Germany after Italy capitulated in 1943.


    It's named "alpine foreland" here.

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/
    Fichier:Grossdeutsches_Reich_NS_Administration_1944.png





    To me, this is a good discussion.

    The map reminds me that I had worked with a guy, nominally Romanian, but
    who was much more blond and tall/large than any of the other Romanians
    I've dealt with here on the west coast of the US. A surprising amount
    are here, really.

    They've been of two types: a darker, shorter group who look a bit like Spaniards, and then the outlier, like this guy I was mentioning. His
    accent was German, even to my ear. He told me that there's a large "communal" population of Germans in Romanian that have been there
    centuries, as I recall it. They speak German mostly and it's easy to see
    the difference.

    Hah! Here's a generalization for ya: Romanian women are
    disproportionately knock-outs--really pretty.


    Ain't no 'generalization, it's a *fact*.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@pelle@svans.los to rec.sport.tennis on Fri May 8 07:45:19 2026
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    On 8.5.2026 2.59, Scall5 wrote:
    On 5/4/2026 10:48 AM, Sawfish wrote:
    On 5/3/26 11:01 PM, *skriptis wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    All it takes is travel...


    Yeah, Zverev came to Germany, while Italy came to Sinner, that's my
    point.




    Diverting a bit, did you see Lendl as Slavic or Germanic?

    Lendl is kinda selfish and individualistic type to the fullest so I
    reckon you might think we should see him as more Germanic, but I
    would not say that.

    Germans are kinda communal as well. At least they were. People can
    change more easily, while changing the whole community and their
    mentality is harder and longer.


    Czechs are very much Germanic, same way East Germans or Austrians are
    quite Slavic, it's pretty much similar in terms of DNA.

    The major difference being language. Hitler considered them fit for
    full aryanisation, only wanted to force German language on them so
    that they could be incorporated.

    Funnily, since he was good with Mussolini he was willing to accept
    Sinner folks and their region staying in Italy? He was screaming to
    get all lost German territories back and acquire new ones that are
    populated by Germans but didn't touch Sinner.

    The Tyrol was part of Austrian empire, populated by Germans, and
    after ww1 Tyrol was split, north stayed in Austria and South Tyrol
    was given to italy.

    Hitler never pushed that.

    He only added South Tyrol to Germany after Italy capitulated in 1943.


    It's named "alpine foreland" here.

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/
    Fichier:Grossdeutsches_Reich_NS_Administration_1944.png





    To me, this is a good discussion.

    The map reminds me that I had worked with a guy, nominally Romanian,
    but who was much more blond and tall/large than any of the other
    Romanians I've dealt with here on the west coast of the US. A
    surprising amount are here, really.

    They've been of two types: a darker, shorter group who look a bit like
    Spaniards, and then the outlier, like this guy I was mentioning. His
    accent was German, even to my ear. He told me that there's a large
    "communal" population of Germans in Romanian that have been there
    centuries, as I recall it. They speak German mostly and it's easy to
    see the difference.

    Hah! Here's a generalization for ya: Romanian women are
    disproportionately knock-outs--really pretty.


    Ain't no 'generalization, it's a *fact*.

    If you fancy moustaches.
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