On 9/26/25 12:38 AM, jdeluise wrote:
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-feminine-speaking-style-214391/>> Basically if this is true it could mean Trump has established>> himself as a woman in our relationship to him, he talks but we >> like>> him not what
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> On 9/25/25 9:38 PM, *skriptis >>>> wrote:>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On
9/25/25 7:44 PM, jdeluise wrote:> Sawfish >>> <sawfish666@gmail.com>
writes:> > >>>> The country is being >>> run by an unashamedly
authoritarian masculine>> leadership >>> cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>>> back to Andrew Jackson to see>> a >>> similarly forceful leader.>>>>
WRT hands, have you ever seen >>> Xi's?>>>> >>> https://
www.cnn.com/2022/10/14/asia/gallery/xi-jinping>>>> >>> Napoleon
complex, but with hand-size?> > I guess Trump's >>> masculine...
presuming that includes chronic > indecisiveness, >>> emotional
neediness, and pathological vanity.-a The > whininess >>> alone is a
disqualifier for me.-a But hey, you're entitled to > >>> your opinion! >>>> So..."The country is being run by an unashamedly >>> authoritarian
masculineleadership cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>> back to Andrew
Jackson to seea similarly forceful >>> leader."sounded too much like
praise, j?So you are saying >>> we're *not* being run by "an
unashamedly authoritarian >>> masculine leadership cadre"?-- >>>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open >>> the pod bay doors, >>> HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>> I think this is a good read for you.>>
he's saying but for what he is, and we don't >> really pay>> attention to what he's saying?>> Maybe a Pelle, expert on genders could say a word here?>> >> Huh.>> I hadn't realized how masculine Ted Cruz and Dennis Kusinich > are. Boy,>
oh boy, was I ever wrong about them!!! Bernie Sanders, too!!!>> Thanks so much, skript! I'm sure glad that someone smart, like a > UC> professor, can definitively set us straight, huh?Makeup, hair transplants, girdles, shoulder pads...
mmm, manly? Must be an Portland thing.
This is a funny topic but I for one do not dismiss this idea.
I feel there's something in it.
In a world that's has been thoroughly feminised, even a macho persona
is tainted by the era in which he lives.
He has to, sort of, evolve to maintain success.
So he's not really "macho" per old textbook, but neither is our world
anymore.
It's basically like those genetic manipulation of different spices and
animals. If science-a were to recreate mammoth, clone it, they'd
probably have to use bits of elephant genome or whatever so it
wouldn't be a true mammoth from a bygone era, technically, but would
be very very close to it.
This is it.
Trump is masculine no doubt in his views, resolve, forceful projection
etc so Sawfish is right, but he's wrapped it in feminine style, as you
jdeluise note, make up, hair transplants, words often, etc so somewhat
and partially, it's kinda feminine, and I do believe it's what makes
or made him more visible, palpatable and relatable than for example
Ted Cruz who seemed dull?
Not commenting on politics at all.
So the really funny thing is we do treat him as a woman. We don't take
him by his words. His fans don't care what he says, basically Trump's
words are meaningless?
He says so much and of course something has to contradict the other,
but we don't care.
If you like him, you like him.
So yeah, he's like a woman to us.
He's also catty and vindictive.-a This indictment of Comey for instance,
I'd be shocked if it didn't get thrown out for vindictive prosecution.
Mostly due to Trump's own post-menopausal ran.. I mean posts, and pleas
to Bondi.-a Some of these other "mortgage fraud" cases he's brought are
similarly fraught.-a Trump may not even care about winning them, he's
just hissing and scratching.-a Normative manly behavior?-a Ya, I think not.
In all truth, j., it depends on by what standard we define masculine for >this discussion. If we use Clint Eastwood/John Wayne, your points have >value. If we use Henry VIII not so much.
So it depends where you set the bar.
In article <10b6dsf$13l92$3@dont-email.me>,
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/26/25 12:38 AM, jdeluise wrote:
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-feminine-speaking-style-214391/>> Basically if this is true it could mean Trump has established>> himself as a woman in our relationship to him, he talks but we >> like>> him not what
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> On 9/25/25 9:38 PM, *skriptis >>>>> wrote:>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On
9/25/25 7:44 PM, jdeluise wrote:> Sawfish >>> <sawfish666@gmail.com> >>>>> writes:> > >>>> The country is being >>> run by an unashamedly
authoritarian masculine>> leadership >>> cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>>>> back to Andrew Jackson to see>> a >>> similarly forceful leader.>>>> >>>>> WRT hands, have you ever seen >>> Xi's?>>>> >>> https://
www.cnn.com/2022/10/14/asia/gallery/xi-jinping>>>> >>> Napoleon
complex, but with hand-size?> > I guess Trump's >>> masculine...
presuming that includes chronic > indecisiveness, >>> emotional
neediness, and pathological vanity.-a The > whininess >>> alone is a >>>>> disqualifier for me.-a But hey, you're entitled to > >>> your opinion! >>>>> So..."The country is being run by an unashamedly >>> authoritarian
masculineleadership cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>> back to Andrew
Jackson to seea similarly forceful >>> leader."sounded too much like >>>>> praise, j?So you are saying >>> we're *not* being run by "an
unashamedly authoritarian >>> masculine leadership cadre"?-- >>>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open >>> the pod bay doors, >>> HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>> I think this is a good read for you.>>
he's saying but for what he is, and we don't >> really pay>> attention to what he's saying?>> Maybe a Pelle, expert on genders could say a word here?>> >> Huh.>> I hadn't realized how masculine Ted Cruz and Dennis Kusinich > are. Boy,>
oh boy, was I ever wrong about them!!! Bernie Sanders, too!!!>> Thanks so much, skript! I'm sure glad that someone smart, like a > UC> professor, can definitively set us straight, huh?Makeup, hair transplants, girdles, shoulder pads...
mmm, manly? Must be an Portland thing.
In all truth, j., it depends on by what standard we define masculine for
This is a funny topic but I for one do not dismiss this idea.
I feel there's something in it.
In a world that's has been thoroughly feminised, even a macho persona
is tainted by the era in which he lives.
He has to, sort of, evolve to maintain success.
So he's not really "macho" per old textbook, but neither is our world
anymore.
It's basically like those genetic manipulation of different spices and >>>> animals. If science-a were to recreate mammoth, clone it, they'd
probably have to use bits of elephant genome or whatever so it
wouldn't be a true mammoth from a bygone era, technically, but would
be very very close to it.
This is it.
Trump is masculine no doubt in his views, resolve, forceful projection >>>> etc so Sawfish is right, but he's wrapped it in feminine style, as you >>>> jdeluise note, make up, hair transplants, words often, etc so somewhat >>>> and partially, it's kinda feminine, and I do believe it's what makes
or made him more visible, palpatable and relatable than for example
Ted Cruz who seemed dull?
Not commenting on politics at all.
So the really funny thing is we do treat him as a woman. We don't take >>>> him by his words. His fans don't care what he says, basically Trump's
words are meaningless?
He says so much and of course something has to contradict the other,
but we don't care.
If you like him, you like him.
So yeah, he's like a woman to us.
He's also catty and vindictive.-a This indictment of Comey for instance, >>> I'd be shocked if it didn't get thrown out for vindictive prosecution.
Mostly due to Trump's own post-menopausal ran.. I mean posts, and pleas
to Bondi.-a Some of these other "mortgage fraud" cases he's brought are
similarly fraught.-a Trump may not even care about winning them, he's
just hissing and scratching.-a Normative manly behavior?-a Ya, I think not. >>
this discussion. If we use Clint Eastwood/John Wayne, your points have
value. If we use Henry VIII not so much.
So it depends where you set the bar.
Saw, I don't see any measure by which Henry Viii could be considered manly. He was cruel and used
the power that came with the throne to achieve his goals, not by resonating with his subjects as a
benevolent despot would. Hey, that sounds a lot like you-know-who.
On 10/1/25 3:02 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <10b6dsf$13l92$3@dont-email.me>,
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/26/25 12:38 AM, jdeluise wrote:
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-feminine-speaking-style-214391/>> Basically if this is true it could mean Trump has established>> himself as a woman in our relationship to him, he talks but we >> like>> him not what
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> On 9/25/25 9:38 PM, *skriptis >>>>>> wrote:>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On
9/25/25 7:44 PM, jdeluise wrote:> Sawfish >>> <sawfish666@gmail.com> >>>>>> writes:> > >>>> The country is being >>> run by an unashamedly
authoritarian masculine>> leadership >>> cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>>>>> back to Andrew Jackson to see>> a >>> similarly forceful leader.>>>> >>>>>> WRT hands, have you ever seen >>> Xi's?>>>> >>> https://
www.cnn.com/2022/10/14/asia/gallery/xi-jinping>>>> >>> Napoleon
complex, but with hand-size?> > I guess Trump's >>> masculine...
presuming that includes chronic > indecisiveness, >>> emotional
neediness, and pathological vanity.-a The > whininess >>> alone is a >>>>>> disqualifier for me.-a But hey, you're entitled to > >>> your opinion! >>>>>> So..."The country is being run by an unashamedly >>> authoritarian >>>>>> masculineleadership cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>> back to Andrew >>>>>> Jackson to seea similarly forceful >>> leader."sounded too much like >>>>>> praise, j?So you are saying >>> we're *not* being run by "an
unashamedly authoritarian >>> masculine leadership cadre"?-- >>>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open >>> the pod bay doors, >>> HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>> I think this is a good read for you.>>
he's saying but for what he is, and we don't >> really pay>> attention to what he's saying?>> Maybe a Pelle, expert on genders could say a word here?>> >> Huh.>> I hadn't realized how masculine Ted Cruz and Dennis Kusinich > are. Boy,>
oh boy, was I ever wrong about them!!! Bernie Sanders, too!!!>> Thanks so much, skript! I'm sure glad that someone smart, like a > UC> professor, can definitively set us straight, huh?Makeup, hair transplants, girdles, shoulder pads...
mmm, manly? Must be an Portland thing.
This is a funny topic but I for one do not dismiss this idea.
I feel there's something in it.
In a world that's has been thoroughly feminised, even a macho persona >>>>> is tainted by the era in which he lives.
He has to, sort of, evolve to maintain success.
So he's not really "macho" per old textbook, but neither is our world >>>>> anymore.
It's basically like those genetic manipulation of different spices and >>>>> animals. If science-a were to recreate mammoth, clone it, they'd
probably have to use bits of elephant genome or whatever so it
wouldn't be a true mammoth from a bygone era, technically, but would >>>>> be very very close to it.
This is it.
Trump is masculine no doubt in his views, resolve, forceful projection >>>>> etc so Sawfish is right, but he's wrapped it in feminine style, as you >>>>> jdeluise note, make up, hair transplants, words often, etc so somewhat >>>>> and partially, it's kinda feminine, and I do believe it's what makes >>>>> or made him more visible, palpatable and relatable than for example
Ted Cruz who seemed dull?
Not commenting on politics at all.
So the really funny thing is we do treat him as a woman. We don't take >>>>> him by his words. His fans don't care what he says, basically Trump's >>>>> words are meaningless?
He says so much and of course something has to contradict the other, >>>>> but we don't care.
If you like him, you like him.
So yeah, he's like a woman to us.
He's also catty and vindictive.-a This indictment of Comey for instance, >>>> I'd be shocked if it didn't get thrown out for vindictive prosecution. >>>> Mostly due to Trump's own post-menopausal ran.. I mean posts, and pleas >>>> to Bondi.-a Some of these other "mortgage fraud" cases he's brought are >>>> similarly fraught.-a Trump may not even care about winning them, he's
just hissing and scratching.-a Normative manly behavior?-a Ya, I think not.
In all truth, j., it depends on by what standard we define masculine for >>> this discussion. If we use Clint Eastwood/John Wayne, your points have
value. If we use Henry VIII not so much.
So it depends where you set the bar.
Saw, I don't see any measure by which Henry Viii could be considered manly. He was cruel and used
the power that came with the throne to achieve his goals, not by resonating with his subjects as a
benevolent despot would. Hey, that sounds a lot like you-know-who.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see benevolence as a definitive >masculine trait. It's purely secondary or tertiary.
On 10/1/25 3:02 PM, bmoore wrote:
In article <10b6dsf$13l92$3@dont-email.me>,
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/26/25 12:38 AM, jdeluise wrote:Saw, I don't see any measure by which Henry Viii could be
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-feminine-speaking-style-214391/>>
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> On 9/25/25 9:38 PM,
*skriptis
wrote:>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in
message:r>>> On
9/25/25 7:44 PM, jdeluise wrote:> Sawfish >>>
<sawfish666@gmail.com>
writes:> > >>>> The country is being >>> run by an
unashamedly
authoritarian masculine>> leadership >>> cadre. Maybe we'd
have to go
back to Andrew Jackson to see>> a >>> similarly forceful
leader.>>>>
WRT hands, have you ever seen >>> Xi's?>>>> >>> https://
www.cnn.com/2022/10/14/asia/gallery/xi-jinping>>>> >>>
Napoleon
complex, but with hand-size?> > I guess Trump's >>>
masculine...
presuming that includes chronic > indecisiveness, >>>
emotional
neediness, and pathological vanity.-a The > whininess >>>
alone is a
disqualifier for me.-a But hey, you're entitled to > >>>
your opinion!
So..."The country is being run by an unashamedly >>>
authoritarian
masculineleadership cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>> back
to Andrew
Jackson to seea similarly forceful >>> leader."sounded too
much like
praise, j?So you are saying >>> we're *not* being run by
"an
unashamedly authoritarian >>> masculine leadership
cadre"?-- >>>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open
HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>>the pod bay doors, >>>
I think this is a good read for you.>>
Basically if this is true it could mean Trump has
established>> himself as a woman in our relationship to him,
he talks but we >> like>> him not what
he's saying but for what he is, and we don't >> really pay>>
attention to what he's saying?>> Maybe a Pelle, expert on
genders could say a word here?>> >> Huh.>> I hadn't realized
how masculine Ted Cruz and Dennis Kusinich > are. Boy,>
oh boy, was I ever wrong about them!!! Bernie Sanders,
too!!!>> Thanks so much, skript! I'm sure glad that someone
smart, like a > UC> professor, can definitively set us
straight, huh?Makeup, hair transplants, girdles, shoulder
pads...
mmm, manly? Must be an Portland thing.
This is a funny topic but I for one do not dismiss this
idea.
I feel there's something in it.
In a world that's has been thoroughly feminised, even a
macho persona
is tainted by the era in which he lives.
He has to, sort of, evolve to maintain success.
So he's not really "macho" per old textbook, but neither is
our world
anymore.
It's basically like those genetic manipulation of different
spices and
animals. If science-a were to recreate mammoth, clone it,
they'd
probably have to use bits of elephant genome or whatever so
it
wouldn't be a true mammoth from a bygone era, technically,
but would
be very very close to it.
This is it.
Trump is masculine no doubt in his views, resolve, forceful
projection
etc so Sawfish is right, but he's wrapped it in feminine
style, as you
jdeluise note, make up, hair transplants, words often, etc
so somewhat
and partially, it's kinda feminine, and I do believe it's
what makes
or made him more visible, palpatable and relatable than for
example
Ted Cruz who seemed dull?
Not commenting on politics at all.
So the really funny thing is we do treat him as a woman. We
don't take
him by his words. His fans don't care what he says,
basically Trump's
words are meaningless?
He says so much and of course something has to contradict
the other,
but we don't care.
If you like him, you like him.
So yeah, he's like a woman to us.
He's also catty and vindictive.-a This indictment of Comey for
instance,
I'd be shocked if it didn't get thrown out for vindictive
prosecution.
Mostly due to Trump's own post-menopausal ran.. I mean posts,
and pleas
to Bondi.-a Some of these other "mortgage fraud" cases he's
brought are
similarly fraught.-a Trump may not even care about winning
them, he's
just hissing and scratching.-a Normative manly behavior?-a Ya,
I think not.
In all truth, j., it depends on by what standard we define
masculine for
this discussion. If we use Clint Eastwood/John Wayne, your
points have
value. If we use Henry VIII not so much.
So it depends where you set the bar.
considered
manly. He was cruel and used
the power that came with the throne to achieve his goals, not
by resonating with his subjects as a
benevolent despot would. Hey, that sounds a lot like
you-know-who.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see benevolence as a
definitive masculine trait. It's purely secondary or tertiary.
In article <10b6dsf$13l92$3@dont-email.me>,
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/26/25 12:38 AM, jdeluise wrote:
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-feminine-speaking-style-214391/>> Basically if this is true it could mean Trump has established>> himself as a woman in our relationship to him, he talks but we >> like>> him not what
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> On 9/25/25 9:38 PM, *skriptis >>>>> wrote:>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On
9/25/25 7:44 PM, jdeluise wrote:> Sawfish >>> <sawfish666@gmail.com> >>>>> writes:> > >>>> The country is being >>> run by an unashamedly
authoritarian masculine>> leadership >>> cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>>>> back to Andrew Jackson to see>> a >>> similarly forceful leader.>>>> >>>>> WRT hands, have you ever seen >>> Xi's?>>>> >>> https://
www.cnn.com/2022/10/14/asia/gallery/xi-jinping>>>> >>> Napoleon
complex, but with hand-size?> > I guess Trump's >>> masculine...
presuming that includes chronic > indecisiveness, >>> emotional
neediness, and pathological vanity.-a The > whininess >>> alone is a >>>>> disqualifier for me.-a But hey, you're entitled to > >>> your opinion! >>>>> So..."The country is being run by an unashamedly >>> authoritarian
masculineleadership cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>> back to Andrew
Jackson to seea similarly forceful >>> leader."sounded too much like >>>>> praise, j?So you are saying >>> we're *not* being run by "an
unashamedly authoritarian >>> masculine leadership cadre"?-- >>>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open >>> the pod bay doors, >>> HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>> I think this is a good read for you.>>
he's saying but for what he is, and we don't >> really pay>> attention to what he's saying?>> Maybe a Pelle, expert on genders could say a word here?>> >> Huh.>> I hadn't realized how masculine Ted Cruz and Dennis Kusinich > are. Boy,>
oh boy, was I ever wrong about them!!! Bernie Sanders, too!!!>> Thanks so much, skript! I'm sure glad that someone smart, like a > UC> professor, can definitively set us straight, huh?Makeup, hair transplants, girdles, shoulder pads...
mmm, manly? Must be an Portland thing.
In all truth, j., it depends on by what standard we define masculine for
This is a funny topic but I for one do not dismiss this idea.
I feel there's something in it.
In a world that's has been thoroughly feminised, even a macho persona
is tainted by the era in which he lives.
He has to, sort of, evolve to maintain success.
So he's not really "macho" per old textbook, but neither is our world
anymore.
It's basically like those genetic manipulation of different spices and >>>> animals. If science-a were to recreate mammoth, clone it, they'd
probably have to use bits of elephant genome or whatever so it
wouldn't be a true mammoth from a bygone era, technically, but would
be very very close to it.
This is it.
Trump is masculine no doubt in his views, resolve, forceful projection >>>> etc so Sawfish is right, but he's wrapped it in feminine style, as you >>>> jdeluise note, make up, hair transplants, words often, etc so somewhat >>>> and partially, it's kinda feminine, and I do believe it's what makes
or made him more visible, palpatable and relatable than for example
Ted Cruz who seemed dull?
Not commenting on politics at all.
So the really funny thing is we do treat him as a woman. We don't take >>>> him by his words. His fans don't care what he says, basically Trump's
words are meaningless?
He says so much and of course something has to contradict the other,
but we don't care.
If you like him, you like him.
So yeah, he's like a woman to us.
He's also catty and vindictive.-a This indictment of Comey for instance, >>> I'd be shocked if it didn't get thrown out for vindictive prosecution.
Mostly due to Trump's own post-menopausal ran.. I mean posts, and pleas
to Bondi.-a Some of these other "mortgage fraud" cases he's brought are
similarly fraught.-a Trump may not even care about winning them, he's
just hissing and scratching.-a Normative manly behavior?-a Ya, I think not. >>
this discussion. If we use Clint Eastwood/John Wayne, your points have
value. If we use Henry VIII not so much.
So it depends where you set the bar.
Saw, I don't see any measure by which Henry Viii could be considered manly. He was cruel and used
the power that came with the throne to achieve his goals, not by resonating with his subjects as a
benevolent despot would. Hey, that sounds a lot like you-know-who.
bmoore kirjoitti 2.10.2025 klo 1.02:
In article <10b6dsf$13l92$3@dont-email.me>,
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/26/25 12:38 AM, jdeluise wrote:
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-feminine-speaking-style-214391/>> Basically if this is true it could mean Trump has established>> himself as a woman in our relationship to him, he talks but we >> like>> him not what
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> On 9/25/25 9:38 PM, *skriptis >>>>>> wrote:>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On
9/25/25 7:44 PM, jdeluise wrote:> Sawfish >>> <sawfish666@gmail.com> >>>>>> writes:> > >>>> The country is being >>> run by an unashamedly
authoritarian masculine>> leadership >>> cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>>>>> back to Andrew Jackson to see>> a >>> similarly forceful leader.>>>> >>>>>> WRT hands, have you ever seen >>> Xi's?>>>> >>> https://
www.cnn.com/2022/10/14/asia/gallery/xi-jinping>>>> >>> Napoleon
complex, but with hand-size?> > I guess Trump's >>> masculine...
presuming that includes chronic > indecisiveness, >>> emotional
neediness, and pathological vanity.-a The > whininess >>> alone is a >>>>>> disqualifier for me.-a But hey, you're entitled to > >>> your opinion! >>>>>> So..."The country is being run by an unashamedly >>> authoritarian >>>>>> masculineleadership cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>> back to Andrew >>>>>> Jackson to seea similarly forceful >>> leader."sounded too much like >>>>>> praise, j?So you are saying >>> we're *not* being run by "an
unashamedly authoritarian >>> masculine leadership cadre"?-- >>>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open >>> the pod bay doors, >>> HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>> I think this is a good read for you.>>
he's saying but for what he is, and we don't >> really pay>> attention to what he's saying?>> Maybe a Pelle, expert on genders could say a word here?>> >> Huh.>> I hadn't realized how masculine Ted Cruz and Dennis Kusinich > are. Boy,>
oh boy, was I ever wrong about them!!! Bernie Sanders, too!!!>> Thanks so much, skript! I'm sure glad that someone smart, like a > UC> professor, can definitively set us straight, huh?Makeup, hair transplants, girdles, shoulder pads...
mmm, manly? Must be an Portland thing.
This is a funny topic but I for one do not dismiss this idea.
I feel there's something in it.
In a world that's has been thoroughly feminised, even a macho persona >>>>> is tainted by the era in which he lives.
He has to, sort of, evolve to maintain success.
So he's not really "macho" per old textbook, but neither is our world >>>>> anymore.
It's basically like those genetic manipulation of different spices and >>>>> animals. If science-a were to recreate mammoth, clone it, they'd
probably have to use bits of elephant genome or whatever so it
wouldn't be a true mammoth from a bygone era, technically, but would >>>>> be very very close to it.
This is it.
Trump is masculine no doubt in his views, resolve, forceful projection >>>>> etc so Sawfish is right, but he's wrapped it in feminine style, as you >>>>> jdeluise note, make up, hair transplants, words often, etc so somewhat >>>>> and partially, it's kinda feminine, and I do believe it's what makes >>>>> or made him more visible, palpatable and relatable than for example
Ted Cruz who seemed dull?
Not commenting on politics at all.
So the really funny thing is we do treat him as a woman. We don't take >>>>> him by his words. His fans don't care what he says, basically Trump's >>>>> words are meaningless?
He says so much and of course something has to contradict the other, >>>>> but we don't care.
If you like him, you like him.
So yeah, he's like a woman to us.
He's also catty and vindictive.-a This indictment of Comey for instance, >>>> I'd be shocked if it didn't get thrown out for vindictive prosecution. >>>> Mostly due to Trump's own post-menopausal ran.. I mean posts, and pleas >>>> to Bondi.-a Some of these other "mortgage fraud" cases he's brought are >>>> similarly fraught.-a Trump may not even care about winning them, he's
just hissing and scratching.-a Normative manly behavior?-a Ya, I think not.
In all truth, j., it depends on by what standard we define masculine for >>> this discussion. If we use Clint Eastwood/John Wayne, your points have
value. If we use Henry VIII not so much.
So it depends where you set the bar.
Saw, I don't see any measure by which Henry Viii could be considered manly. He was cruel and used
the power that came with the throne to achieve his goals, not by resonating with his subjects as a
benevolent despot would. Hey, that sounds a lot like you-know-who.
Keir Starmer?
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