• Unsophisticated Prediction Tiers Season 66 Match Day 1

    From Futbolmetrix@futbolmetrix@yahoo.com to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Aug 8 19:51:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.sport.soccer

    First, the tiers:

    Tier 1
    -------
    Jesus Petry
    Lloo
    Mark
    Werner Pichler


    Tier 2
    ------
    Tier 2
    The Doctor
    Jesper Lauridsen
    Blueshirt


    Tier 3
    ------
    MH
    Futbolmetrix
    milivella


    Homer has been unceremoniously dumped. The honest and fair gamemaster
    has volunteered to forego his promotion to Tier 2, just so he can have
    a bit more fun at milivella's expense.

    Even before the start of the season, milivella is last.


    Match Day 1 is this coming weekend (August 15/16). La Liga had a
    limited schedule, and Serie A hasn't started yet, so we'll go to the
    MLS to fill the schedule.



    Unsophisticated Prediction Tiers Season 66 - League ESP/ITA, Match Day
    1 (2026/8/15-16)

    What to do
    -----------

    Look at the fixtures below: do you play home or away?

    *Home*
    - Before Thursday (= before 2026/8/12, 23:59 GMT)
    =- Pick one team from each of the two matches

    *Away*
    =- After Wednesday (or even sooner, if the home player has picked
    their teams) and before kickoff of the first match on Saturday
    2026/8/15
    - Pick one of the teams not picked by your opponent (if they haven't
    picked any team, you have free choice)
    =- their opponents will represent your opponent

    *ATTENTION: NEW RULE*: If the away player doesn't pick any team before
    his/her deadline, the home player will be represented by the team that
    achieves the best outcome out of his/her two picked teams. If the home
    player doesn't pick any team before his deadline, the away player can
    pick two teams (one from each match), and he/she will be represented
    by the team that achieves the best outcome out of his/her two picked
    teams.
    If nobody picks a team, teams are assigned randomly.

    (Maybe I'll get rid of this text at the next iteration, it's not
    really a new rule anymore...)


    Fixtures
    --------

    Tier 1

    Jesus Petry - Werner Pichler
    Sevilla - Rayo Vallecano
    Austin FC - FC Dallas

    Lloo - Mark
    Racing Santander - Villarreal
    Orlando City - FC Cincinnati


    Tier 2

    Blueshirt - The Doctor
    Sevilla - Rayo Vallecano
    Austin FC - FC Dallas


    (Inter-tier match)
    Jesper Lauridsen - Futbolmetrix (Tier 3)
    Racing Santander - Villarreal
    Orlando City - FC Cincinnati


    Tier 3

    MH - milivella
    Sevilla - Rayo Vallecano
    Austin FC - FC Dallas

    (Inter-tier match)
    Jesper Lauridsen (Tier 2)- Futbolmetrix
    Racing Santander - Villarreal
    Orlando City - FC Cincinnati


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  • From =?UTF-8?B?TGzDqW8=?=@llb.moura@gmail.com to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Aug 8 21:24:44 2026
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    On 08/08/2026 20:51, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Ll|-o - Mark
    Racing Santander - Villarreal
    Orlando City - FC Cincinnati

    I pick Villareal and Orlando City.


    Best regards,

    Ll|-o
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  • From MH@MHnospam@ucalgary.ca to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Aug 8 20:56:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.sport.soccer

    On 2026-08-08 16:51, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    First, the tiers:

    Tier 1
    -------
    Jesus Petry
    Ll|-o
    Mark
    Werner Pichler


    Tier 2
    ------
    Tier 2
    The Doctor
    Jesper Lauridsen
    Blueshirt


    Tier 3
    ------
    MH
    Futbolmetrix
    milivella


    Homer has been unceremoniously dumped. The honest and fair gamemaster
    has volunteered to forego his promotion to Tier 2, just so he can have
    a bit more fun at milivella's expense.

    Even before the start of the season, milivella is last.


    Match Day 1 is this coming weekend (August 15/16). La Liga had a
    limited schedule, and Serie A hasn't started yet, so we'll go to the
    MLS to fill the schedule.



    Unsophisticated Prediction Tiers Season 66 - League ESP/ITA, Match Day
    1 (2026/8/15-16)

    What to do
    -----------

    Look at the fixtures below: do you play home or away?

    *Home*
    - Before Thursday (= before 2026/8/12, 23:59 GMT)
    =- Pick one team from each of the two matches

    *Away*
    =- After Wednesday (or even sooner, if the home player has picked
    their teams) and before kickoff of the first match on Saturday
    2026/8/15
    - Pick one of the teams not picked by your opponent (if they haven't
    picked any team, you have free choice)
    =- their opponents will represent your opponent

    *ATTENTION: NEW RULE*: If the away player doesn't pick any team before his/her deadline, the home player will be represented by the team that achieves the best outcome out of his/her two picked teams. If the home
    player doesn't pick any team before his deadline, the away player can
    pick two teams (one from each match), and he/she will be represented
    by the team that achieves the best outcome out of his/her two picked
    teams.
    If nobody picks a team, teams are assigned randomly.

    (Maybe I'll get rid of this text at the next iteration, it's not
    really a new rule anymore...)


    Fixtures
    --------

    Tier 1

    Jesus Petry - Werner Pichler
    Sevilla - Rayo Vallecano
    Austin FC - FC Dallas

    Ll|-o - Mark
    Racing Santander - Villarreal
    Orlando City - FC Cincinnati


    Tier 2

    Blueshirt - The Doctor
    Sevilla - Rayo Vallecano
    Austin FC - FC Dallas


    (Inter-tier match)
    Jesper Lauridsen - Futbolmetrix (Tier 3)
    Racing Santander - Villarreal
    Orlando City - FC Cincinnati


    Tier 3

    MH - milivella
    Sevilla - Rayo Vallecano
    Austin FC - FC Dallas

    1. Sevilla
    2. Austin



    (Inter-tier match)
    Jesper Lauridsen (Tier 2)- Futbolmetrix
    Racing Santander - Villarreal
    Orlando City - FC Cincinnati



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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Aug 9 10:40:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.sport.soccer

    Futbolmetrix wrote:


    Unsophisticated Prediction Tiers Season 66 - League ESP/ITA,
    Match Day 1 (2026/8/15-16)

    What to do
    -----------

    Look at the fixtures below: do you play home or away?

    Home
    - Before Thursday (= before 2026/8/12, 23:59 GMT)
    =- Pick one team from each of the two matches

    Away
    =- After Wednesday (or even sooner, if the home player has
    picked their teams) and before kickoff of the first match on
    Saturday 2026/8/15
    - Pick one of the teams not picked by your opponent (if they
    haven't picked any team, you have free choice)
    =- their opponents will represent your opponent

    *ATTENTION: NEW RULE*: If the away player doesn't pick any
    team before his/her deadline, the home player will be
    represented by the team that achieves the best outcome out of
    his/her two picked teams. If the home player doesn't pick any
    team before his deadline, the away player can pick two teams
    (one from each match), and he/she will be represented by the
    team that achieves the best outcome out of his/her two picked
    teams. If nobody picks a team, teams are assigned randomly.


    (Maybe I'll get rid of this text at the next iteration, it's
    not really a new rule anymore...)


    Fixtures
    --------

    Tier 1

    Jesus Petry - Werner Pichler
    Sevilla - Rayo Vallecano
    Austin FC - FC Dallas

    Lloo - Mark
    Racing Santander - Villarreal
    Orlando City - FC Cincinnati


    Tier 2

    Blueshirt - The Doctor
    Sevilla - Rayo Vallecano
    Austin FC - FC Dallas

    Sevilla FC

    Austin FC
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Aug 9 12:35:10 2026
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    In article <xn0ptbd9yiidz1n000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Futbolmetrix wrote:


    Unsophisticated Prediction Tiers Season 66 - League ESP/ITA,
    Match Day 1 (2026/8/15-16)

    What to do
    -----------

    Look at the fixtures below: do you play home or away?

    Home
    - Before Thursday (= before 2026/8/12, 23:59 GMT)
    =- Pick one team from each of the two matches

    Away
    =- After Wednesday (or even sooner, if the home player has
    picked their teams) and before kickoff of the first match on
    Saturday 2026/8/15
    - Pick one of the teams not picked by your opponent (if they
    haven't picked any team, you have free choice)
    =- their opponents will represent your opponent

    *ATTENTION: NEW RULE*: If the away player doesn't pick any
    team before his/her deadline, the home player will be
    represented by the team that achieves the best outcome out of
    his/her two picked teams. If the home player doesn't pick any
    team before his deadline, the away player can pick two teams
    (one from each match), and he/she will be represented by the
    team that achieves the best outcome out of his/her two picked
    teams. If nobody picks a team, teams are assigned randomly.


    (Maybe I'll get rid of this text at the next iteration, it's
    not really a new rule anymore...)


    Fixtures
    --------

    Tier 1

    Jesus Petry - Werner Pichler
    Sevilla - Rayo Vallecano
    Austin FC - FC Dallas

    Lloo - Mark
    Racing Santander - Villarreal
    Orlando City - FC Cincinnati


    Tier 2

    Blueshirt - The Doctor
    Sevilla - Rayo Vallecano
    Austin FC - FC Dallas

    Sevilla FC

    Austin FC

    Swim or Sink!

    FC Dallas
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  • From milivella@milivella@gmail.com to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Aug 9 23:19:30 2026
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    MH:

    MH-a-a-a-a-a-a-a --a-a-a milivella
    -a-a-a-aSevilla-a-a-a --a-a-a Rayo Vallecano
    -a-a-a-aAustin FC-a-a-a --a-a-a FC Dallas

    1. Sevilla
    2. Austin

    Michael channeling Homer as a tribute to the lost bot is nice.

    Since Sevilla vs. Rayo is as balanced as the gamemaster who picked it is honest and fair, I'll go for FC Dallas.

    Who shot MH? Me!

    (I'm directing a documentary on him.)

    --
    Cheers
    milivella
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  • From Ammammata@ammammata@tiscali.it to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Aug 10 08:26:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.sport.soccer

    Futbolmetrix was thinking very hard :
    *ATTENTION: NEW RULE*

    it would be interesting (for me) to have a list of all the rules, so
    maybe I can try to organize something similar with local (ageing)
    friends as an alternative to "fantacalcio" :-)
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  • From Futbolmetrix@futbolmetrix@yahoo.com to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Aug 10 07:01:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.sport.soccer

    On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 08:26:58 +0200, Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it>
    wrote:

    Futbolmetrix was thinking very hard :
    *ATTENTION: NEW RULE*

    it would be interesting (for me) to have a list of all the rules, so
    maybe I can try to organize something similar with local (ageing)
    friends as an alternative to "fantacalcio" :-)


    The rules are pretty much what's in the "What to do" section of my
    post. What goes before that:

    1. Second-place finisher of previous season chooses two leagues
    2. Gamemaster sets up tiers based on number of participants

    .
    .
    .
    .

    Wait! It turns out that milivella once wrote up a document called
    Rules.txt. I'll reproduce it below. However, I have introduced some
    changes since becoming gamemaster. I'll highlight them.



    Rules.txt
    ----------

    Each season is league as we know it (6 weeks) followed by cup (4
    weeks).

    * [Change]: Season can be shorter or longer depending on number of participants.

    ---

    League

    There are x tiers of 4 RSSers each (the last one could have less
    teams). Each season has 6 matchdays. At the end of each season, in
    each tier the top RSSer is promoted, the bottom RSSer is relegated.

    Quite easy so far, right? I only have to add how matches work, and
    I'll do it using an example (lines starting with *).

    Each matchday, I post the fixtures...
    * Daniele - Jesus
    * Luiz - MH

    ...and the matches to predict:
    * Chelsea - Manchester Utd.
    * Barcelona - Real Madrid

    In each unsophisticated match, the home player picks one team from
    each match, in order of preference:
    * Daniele picks (1) Real Madrid and (2) Chelsea

    As soon as he picks, the away player can pick one of the unpicked
    teams:
    * Jesus picks Manchester Utd.
    * So Daniele will be represented by Chelsea

    A win is 2 points, a draw is 1 point:
    * Chelsea 2-2 Manchester Utd.
    * Both Daniele and Jesus gain 1 point

    *** [CHANGE]: we have switched to the 3 points per win system.***


    If the home player doesn't pick any team before his deadline, the away
    player can pick any team:
    * Daniele doesn't pick any team
    * Jesus picks Real Madrid
    * So Daniele will be represented by Barcelona

    If the away player doesn't pick any team before his deadline, the home
    player will be represented by his preferred team:
    * Jesus doesn't pick any team
    * So Daniele will be represented by Real Madrid
    * So Jesus will be represented by Barcelona

    *** [CHANGE]: see new rule posted in the What To Do section each week
    ***

    If nobody picks a team, teams are assigned randomly.

    Any player who does not pick at least three times is automatically
    suspended from the next season of UPT.

    ---

    Cup

    Seeded, i.e. Tier 1 winner (1st in the UPT pyramid) plays against Tier
    4 bottom player (16th), etc.

    *1-16
    \_*
    / \
    8- 9 \
    \_*
    / \
    5-12 / \
    \__/ \
    / \
    *4-13 \
    \_winner!
    /
    *3-14 /
    \__ /
    / \ /
    6-11 \ /
    \__/
    /
    7-10 /
    \_*/
    /
    *2-15

    * = The winner of this match will be the home team in the next round

    (Note: in this case, 4th in Tier 1 is 4th, 5th in Tier 2 is 5th. I
    specify this because formally it doesn't work this way when I handle
    promotions and relegations when players leave the game.)

    *** [CHANGE] The seeded teams in the Cup are the winners of the three
    tiers, plus second placed-team in Tier 1. Cup does not necessarily
    have 16 teanms. ***


    Each round is a single leg, played with the usual rules, except for
    the following exceptions: the gamemaster picks unbalanced matches, and
    the underdog is considered the winner in case of a draw. E.g.
    Futbolmetrix - milivella
    Newcastle 1X-2 Liverpool
    Almeria 1-X2 Rayo Vallecano
    Futbolmetrix picks Liverpool and Rayo. milivella picks Almeria. So the
    match is Almeria - Rayo. It ends 0-0: Futbolmetrix goes through.

    *** NOTE: kudos to whoever wrote these rules for the level of realism
    ***


    The cup is open to human players who have picked at least 3 times
    during the regular season OR picked in week 6.

    *** NOTE: I don't think I enforced this rule.

    If the number of players in the cup isn't a factor of two, the best
    placed players (with the fourth placed player in a tier being
    considered above the top placed player in the tier below) will be
    given first round byes.



    ---

    Meta-rule about changing rules: when you want to change a rule...
    ...first you discuss it on the ng (this step required only by the etiquette!)...
    ...then you formally propose the change...
    ...finally if nobody disagrees it's implemented from the next season.


    *** NOTE: I definitely did not enforce this. Some tweaks have been
    approved by majority rule, sometimes the gamemaster just decides.


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  • From Futbolmetrix@futbolmetrix@yahoo.com to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Aug 10 11:44:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.sport.soccer

    On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 07:01:29 -0400, Futbolmetrix
    <futbolmetrix@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 08:26:58 +0200, Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it>
    wrote:

    Futbolmetrix was thinking very hard :
    *ATTENTION: NEW RULE*

    it would be interesting (for me) to have a list of all the rules, so
    maybe I can try to organize something similar with local (ageing)
    friends as an alternative to "fantacalcio" :-)


    The rules are pretty much what's in the "What to do" section of my
    post. What goes before that:

    [Snip rules]

    Most importantly, why don't you join UPT in Season 67? Or at least for
    the Season 66 Cup?
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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@rorschak@stofanet.dk to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Aug 11 19:26:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.sport.soccer

    On 09/08/2026 01.51, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    (Inter-tier match)
    Jesper Lauridsen - Futbolmetrix (Tier 3)
    Racing Santander - Villarreal
    Orlando City - FC Cincinnati

    Aston Royal &
    Swamp Lions

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  • From Futbolmetrix@futbolmetrix@yahoo.com to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Aug 11 13:47:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.sport.soccer

    On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 19:26:18 +0200, Jesper Lauridsen
    <rorschak@stofanet.dk> wrote:

    On 09/08/2026 01.51, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    (Inter-tier match)
    Jesper Lauridsen - Futbolmetrix (Tier 3)
    Racing Santander - Villarreal
    Orlando City - FC Cincinnati

    Aston Royal &
    Swamp Lions

    Urgh, I had forgotten about Jesper's cryptic picks...

    Aston Royal could be Real Racing, and Orlando looks like a swampy
    place...

    I pick the Roman patricians that retired to farming life after saving
    the Republic.







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  • From Jesus Petry@jesus.petry@gmail.com to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Aug 11 16:48:04 2026
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    On 08/08/2026 20:51, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Tier 1

    Jesus Petry - Werner Pichler
    Sevilla - Rayo Vallecano
    Austin FC - FC Dallas

    Sevilla and Dallas.

    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry

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  • From Werner Pichler@wpichler@gmail.com to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Aug 12 12:57:51 2026
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    Jesus Petry <jesus.petry@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 08/08/2026 20:51, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Tier 1

    Jesus Petry - Werner Pichler
    Sevilla - Rayo Vallecano
    Austin FC - FC Dallas

    Sevilla and Dallas.


    rCyEl TreerCO, really?

    Ok, El Tree then.


    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Mark@Pammiesheart@yahoo.co.uk to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Aug 13 16:10:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.sport.soccer

    Ll|-o wrote:

    On 08/08/2026 20:51, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Ll|-o - Mark
    Racing Santander - Villarreal
    Orlando City - FC Cincinnati

    I pick Villareal and Orlando City.


    Best regards,

    Ll|-o

    My poetry is very lame
    I hope it doesn't spoil the game
    I pick Cincinnati
    to beat Orlando City

    (Maybe I should try cryptic picks some time. Can I really be much worse
    at it than I am at poetry?)
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  • From Futbolmetrix@futbolmetrix@yahoo.com to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Aug 16 23:57:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.sport.soccer

    On Sat, 08 Aug 2026 19:51:34 -0400, Futbolmetrix
    <futbolmetrix@yahoo.com> wrote:

    MD1 Results and standings:


    Tier 1
    ----
    Jesus Petry 2-1 Werner Pichler (FC Dallas - Austin FC)
    Lloo 1-1 Mark (Orlando City - FC Cincinnati)


    Pts M GF GA GD Picks Team
    3 1 2 1 1 1 Jesus Petry
    1 1 1 1 0 1 Lloo
    1 1 1 1 0 1 Mark
    0 1 1 2 -1 1 Werner Pichler

    El Tree != El Tree. Good start to the season for the UPT champ


    Tier 2
    ----
    Blueshirt 1-2 The Doctor (Austin FC - FC Dallas)
    Jesper Lauridsen 1-1 Futbolmetrix (Orlando City - FC Cincinnati)


    Pts M GF GA GD Picks Team
    3 1 2 1 1 1 The Doctor
    1 1 1 1 0 1 Jesper Lauridsen
    0 1 1 2 -1 1 Blueshirt

    Doc with a statement away win to try to get back immediately into Tier
    1



    Tier 3
    ----
    MH 1-2 milivella (Austin FC - FC Dallas)
    Jesper Lauridsen 1-1 Futbolmetrix (Orlando City - FC Cincinnati)


    Pts M GF GA GD Picks Team
    3 1 2 1 1 1 milivella
    1 1 1 1 0 1 Futbolmetrix
    0 1 1 2 -1 1 MH

    August UPT. You can get crazy results.


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