• The Staff game (AKA Crazy Tiny Players) - Choice #0372

    From milivella@milivella@gmail.com to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Apr 26 20:51:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.sport.soccer

    What happened
    =============

    You chose to offer 300K (also max offer) to Empoli for Tricarico.

    What happened (squad, bank, table, results of matches before yours if
    any, your fixture, opponents' line-up): http://rssclash.altervista.org/staff/0372/index.html

    New choice
    ==========

    Who do you agree with?

    B. Ben the Basic: "Thanks, John, for finally giving me 11 players to field!" 5-3-2
    01
    02 05 03
    04 06
    07 08 11
    10 09
    No Player Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+- --------------------------------------------------------------
    01 Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 40 0 +60 +1.50 --------------------------------------------------------------
    02 Tricarico RW D 250K 15 SCT ITA 0 0 +00 0.00
    05 Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 78 0 +58 +0.74
    03 Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 77 0 +56 +0.73 --------------------------------------------------------------
    04 McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 41 2 +50 +1.22
    06 Puputti CM DM,D 250K 15 PTS FIN 54 0 +48 +0.89 --------------------------------------------------------------
    07 Halonen RW AM 160K 12 SCP FIN 65 1 +65 +1.00
    08 Wiss CM DM 150K 11 PTC FIN 22 1 -07 -0.32
    11 Tsymbalar LW AM 600K 21 CSP RUS 23 1 +40 +1.74 --------------------------------------------------------------
    10 Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232225 FHS FIN 47 26 +40 +0.85
    09 J.Viljanen LW A 180K 13 CSF FIN 2 1 -02 -1.00

    D. Dan the Dazzled (and Noah the Netter): "Yeah, Tricarico is an
    improvement."
    3-4-3
    01
    02 05 03
    06
    07 04 11
    10 09 08
    No Player Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+- --------------------------------------------------------------
    01 Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 40 0 +60 +1.50 --------------------------------------------------------------
    02 Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 78 0 +58 +0.74
    05 Eggen CD 450K 18 HTP NOR 20 0 +34 +1.70
    03 Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 77 0 +56 +0.73 --------------------------------------------------------------
    06 Puputti CM DM,D 250K 15 PTS FIN 54 0 +48 +0.89 --------------------------------------------------------------
    07 Tricarico RW D 250K 15 SCT ITA 0 0 +00 0.00
    04 McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 41 2 +50 +1.22
    11 Tsymbalar LW AM 600K 21 CSP RUS 23 1 +40 +1.74 --------------------------------------------------------------
    10 Tauriainen A 250K 15 0241215 FHV FIN 67 90 +61 +0.91
    09 Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232225 FHS FIN 47 26 +40 +0.85
    08 Vanhala A 250K 15 5214111 PTV FIN 67 18 +50 +0.75

    W. Will the Watcher: "No, Tricarico is _untested_. Let's stick to our
    trusted boys."
    3-4-3
    01
    02 05 03
    06
    07 04 11
    10 09 08
    No Player Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+- --------------------------------------------------------------
    01 Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 40 0 +60 +1.50 --------------------------------------------------------------
    02 Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 78 0 +58 +0.74
    05 Eggen CD 450K 18 HTP NOR 20 0 +34 +1.70
    03 Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 77 0 +56 +0.73 --------------------------------------------------------------
    06 Puputti CM DM,D 250K 15 PTS FIN 54 0 +48 +0.89 --------------------------------------------------------------
    07 Halonen RW AM 160K 12 SCP FIN 65 1 +65 +1.00
    04 McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 41 2 +50 +1.22
    11 Tsymbalar LW AM 600K 21 CSP RUS 23 1 +40 +1.74 --------------------------------------------------------------
    10 Tauriainen A 250K 15 0241215 FHV FIN 67 90 +61 +0.91
    09 Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232225 FHS FIN 47 26 +40 +0.85
    08 Vanhala A 250K 15 5214111 PTV FIN 67 18 +50 +0.75

    O. Ollie the Opponent: "FinnPa are better than us! Let's park the bus."
    5-3-2
    01
    02 05 03
    04 06
    07 08 11
    10 09
    No Player Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+- --------------------------------------------------------------
    01 Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 40 0 +60 +1.50 --------------------------------------------------------------
    02 Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 78 0 +58 +0.74
    05 Eggen CD 450K 18 HTP NOR 20 0 +34 +1.70
    03 Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 77 0 +56 +0.73 --------------------------------------------------------------
    04 Snellman CD 100K 8 TFH FIN 10 0 +09 +0.90
    06 P.Viljanen CD 160K 12 HTP FIN 15 0 +16 +1.07 --------------------------------------------------------------
    07 Tricarico RW D 250K 15 SCT ITA 0 0 +00 0.00
    08 McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 41 2 +50 +1.22
    11 Tsymbalar LW AM 600K 21 CSP RUS 23 1 +40 +1.74 --------------------------------------------------------------
    10 Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232225 FHS FIN 47 26 +40 +0.85
    09 Tauriainen A 250K 15 0241215 FHV FIN 67 90 +61 +0.91

    P. Pat the Paranoid: "Are you all crazy playing knocked Tsymbalar?!"
    3-4-3
    01
    02 05 03
    06
    07 04 11
    10 09 08
    No Player Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+- --------------------------------------------------------------
    01 Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 40 0 +60 +1.50 --------------------------------------------------------------
    02 Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 78 0 +58 +0.74
    05 Eggen CD 450K 18 HTP NOR 20 0 +34 +1.70
    03 Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 77 0 +56 +0.73 --------------------------------------------------------------
    06 Puputti CM DM,D 250K 15 PTS FIN 54 0 +48 +0.89 --------------------------------------------------------------
    07 Tricarico RW D 250K 15 SCT ITA 0 0 +00 0.00
    04 McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 41 2 +50 +1.22
    11 Yeremenko LW 200K 14 SCH RUS 44 3 +27 +0.61 --------------------------------------------------------------
    10 Tauriainen A 250K 15 0241215 FHV FIN 67 90 +61 +0.91
    09 Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232225 FHS FIN 47 26 +40 +0.85
    08 Vanhala A 250K 15 5214111 PTV FIN 67 18 +50 +0.75

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    Useful info
    ===========

    How to read the screenshots
    ---------------------------

    Squad screen:
    - Head:
    - Red card = suspension; number on the card = number of matches the
    player is suspended for.
    - Bandaged head = the player has taken a knock.
    - Red cross = injury; number on the cross = number of matches the
    player will be out for.
    - Black cross = the player is out for the season
    - Skills:
    - P = Passing
    - V = shot Velocity from outside the penalty box
    - H = Heading
    - T = Tackling
    - C = ball Control
    - S = Speed
    - F = Finishing inside the penalty box
    - Current price: it is based on the player's original price (which is
    based on his skills, see below) and his form (which, in turn, is
    supposedly based on regular playtime in a role that is right for the
    player). There is no consensus among fans about the current price
    causing better performances or not.
    - Trial = without contract (so their price is unknown [it's low in
    most but not all cases] and they could leave the team anytime; if you
    play them enough, they'll get a contract)

    Future market rounds to skip
    ----------------------------

    0

    Squad
    -----

    Player Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+- TPr
    Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 40 0 +60 +1.50
    Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 78 0 +58 +0.74
    Eggen CD 450K 18 HTP NOR 20 0 +34 +1.70
    Snellman CD 100K 8 TFH FIN 10 0 +09 +0.90
    P.Viljanen CD 160K 12 HTP FIN 15 0 +16 +1.07
    Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 77 0 +56 +0.73
    Halonen RW AM 160K 12 SCP FIN 65 1 +65 +1.00
    Tricarico RW D 250K 15 SCT ITA 0 0 +00 0.00
    McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 41 2 +50 +1.22
    Puputti CM DM,D 250K 15 PTS FIN 54 0 +48 +0.89
    Sorvisto CM 180K 13 TPV FIN 50 7 +14 +0.28
    Wiss CM DM 150K 11 PTC FIN 22 1 -07 -0.32
    Tsymbalar LW AM 600K 21 CSP RUS 23 1 +40 +1.74
    J.Viljanen LW A 180K 13 CSF FIN 2 1 -02 -1.00
    Yeremenko LW 200K 14 SCH RUS 44 3 +27 +0.61 160K
    Adlane A 180K 13 FHP ALG 30 4 +11 +0.37
    Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232225 FHS FIN 47 26 +40 +0.85
    Tauriainen A 250K 15 0241215 FHV FIN 67 90 +61 +0.91
    Vanhala A 250K 15 5214111 PTV FIN 67 18 +50 +0.75

    Ps = Position
    B = positon according to Ben
    OPr = Original Price when joined the club
    Sm = Sum of skill points
    PVHTCSF: skill points
    Skl = 1st 2nd and 3rd best skill (see "How to read the screenshots")
    Nat = Nation
    M = Matches played
    G = Goals scored
    +- = goal difference when the player was on the field
    Avg+- = goal difference per matches played
    TPr = on Transfer market, you'll accept this minimum Price


    Season
    ------

    2001/2002

    Prem Div = Finnish Premier Division: Apr-Oct, 12 teams, play each team
    x2, 3 points for a win, 3 substitutes from a bench of 5
    Cup = Finnish Cup: May-Jun, 3 rounds, 3 substitutes from a bench of 5, 8 teams; each round being 1 leg, extra time, penalties
    European Cup = European Champions Cup: Sep-May, 4 rounds, away goals
    after 90 mins, 3 substitutes from 5, 16 teams; first round being 4
    groups of 4, seeded, 3 points for a win, play each team x2, top 2 in
    each group qualify; next 2 rounds being 2 legs, extra time, penalties;
    last round being 1 leg, extra time, penalties

    Schedule:
    http://rssclash.altervista.org/staff/0367/index.html

    Management record
    -----------------

    First stint

    Ssn Club Nat Lvl Pos Cup Int Pl W D L F A Top scorer -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    96/97 Once Lobos SAL 4 11 - - 22 5 8 9 9 17 Welter 5
    97/98 Once Lobos SAL 4 2 - - 22 11 4 7 13 9 Welter 9
    98/99 Once Lobos SAL 4 4 - - 22 10 3 9 15 14 Ruano,Welter 6
    99/00 Once Lobos SAL 4 12 - - 17 3 4 10 10 18 Ruano 4 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Total 83 29 19 35 47 58

    Second stint

    Ssn Club Nat Lvl Pos Cup Int Pl W D L F A Top scorer ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    96/97 Haka FIN 1 11 QF - 17 4 6 7 12 14 Vaisanen 4
    97/98 Jaro FIN 1 5 QF R2 27 11 4 12 47 45 Tauriainen 29
    98/99 Jaro FIN 1 3 SF - 24 13 3 8 48 37 Tauriainen 30
    00/01 Jaro FIN 1 1 SF - 24 18 2 4 55 20 Tauriainen 30 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Total 92 46 15 31 162 116

    2011/12 will be the last season.

    Full history of choices
    -----------------------

    Courtesy of Futbolmetrix: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jqi4vdpqckhqygo/TheStaffGame_History.xlsx?dl=0

    About the game
    --------------

    You can join the game at any time. Randomly picked vote chooses (picked
    when the next choice is set up, something that happens at least 71 hours (i.e., 3 days minus 1 hour) after the choice is posted).

    This is a career in Sensible World of Soccer 96/97, a videogame. Prices
    are in pound sterlings.

    Here are the only (as far as I know) variables in SWOS that matter to you:
    - Match: each player acts according to the team's formation [1], to his
    value in each skill [2], and to his natural position [3] (and to home advantage?). By default you know each player's 1st 2nd and 3rd best
    skills, and his original price, that is correlated to the sum of the
    value of all his skills [4].
    - Suspensions and injuries (if a player has taken a knock, his form is supposedly OK, but he's more likely to pick up a serious injury; the
    knock will heal if he'll get rest)
    - Bank:
    When Money in Money out
    Season begins Competition bonuses
    Sponsorship*
    Each week Gate receipts* General running costs**
    Wages**
    Player sales Player purchases
    * Proportional to results
    ** Proportional to players' prices
    You can buy and sell players all season long. Other teams always play
    with the same XI and don't exchange players with each other.
    [1] List of default formations:
    4-4-2 = 4-1-3-2
    5-4-1 = 5-1-3-1
    4-5-1 = 4-1-4-1
    5-3-2 = 3-2-3-2
    3-5-2 = 3-2-3-2
    4-3-3
    4-2-4 = 4-2-3-1
    3-4-3 = 3-1-3-3
    4-4-2s = S-3-1-3-1 (AKA sweep)
    5-2-3
    3-2-5 = 3-2-3-2 (AKA attack)
    6-3-1 = 6-2-1-1 (AKA defend)
    All with RB and LB, and (the only exception being "defend") RW and LW
    (as forwards if there are just 2 midfielders, otherwise as midfielders).
    [2] List of skills: ball control, finishing inside the penalty box,
    heading, passing, speed, tackling, shot velocity from outside the
    penalty box. A player's value in each of these skills can be 0 to 7. Goalkeepers only have a goalkeeping skill that can be 0 to 48; only goalkeepers have this skill.
    [3] List of positions: G, RB, D, LB, RW, M, LW, A.
    [4] Price = Sum of skill points:
    25K 1 (or 0) | 350K 17 | 1.80M 33
    30K 2 | 450K 18 | 1.90M 34
    40K 3 | 500K 19 | 2.00M 35
    50K 4 | 550K 20 | 2.25M 36
    65K 5 | 600K 21 | 2.75M 37
    75K 6 | 650K 22 | 3.00M 38
    85K 7 | 700K 23 | 3.50M 39
    100K 8 | 750K 24 | 4.50M 40
    110K 9 | 800K 25 | 5.00M 41
    130K 10 | 850K 26 | 6.00M 42
    150K 11 | 950K 27 | 7.00M 43
    160K 12 | 1.00M 28 | 8.00M 44
    180K 13 | 1.10M 29 | 9.00M 45
    200K 14 | 1.30M 30 | 10M 46
    250K 15 | 1.50M 31 | 12M 47
    300K 16 | 1.60M 32 | 15M 48 (or 49)

    Staff personalities
    -------------------

    B. Ben the Basic: only looks at skills
    [XI based on: only players priced 30K or more,
    - S + T + (C or H or P) = defender
    - P + T + (C or S) = defensive midfielder
    - P + (any combination of C, S, V) = attacking midfielder
    - S + (F or V) + (C or H) = attacker
    - S + F + V = attacker
    ]

    D. Dan the Dazzled: only looks at prices
    [XI based on original price = playing a player priced 30K or more off
    position is better than playing a player priced less than 30K on
    position; <30K players are ranked in the following way 1) on trial > 2) formerly on trial but now 5-25K > 3) 25K.]

    F. Fred the Frugal: wants to save money
    [XI based on original price, but no player on trial]

    N. Noah the Netter: thinks that it's all a matter of scoring and not
    being scored against
    [two attackers, then XI based on original price]

    O. Ollie the Opponent: only looks at opponents
    [Stop as soon as the criterium is matched:
    1. Playing home against a lower-placed team? XI based on original price,
    but more than 2 attackers.
    Playing away against a higher-placed team? XI based on original price,
    but 5 defenders.
    2. Playing against 3 midfielders? XI based on original price, but 3-5-2. Playing against 3 defenders? XI based on original price, but 4-3-3.
    3. Playing against more than one speedy attacker? XI based on original
    price, but sweep.
    4. XI based on original price, but 4-4-2.]

    P. Pat the Paranoid: is scared of injuries and suspensions
    [Stop as soon as the criterium is matched:
    1. Playing home against a lower-placed team? Same formation as Dan, then
    XI based on original price, but rest any knocked or booked player, and
    the three best players.
    2. Same formation as Dan, then XI based on original price, but no
    knocked or booked players.]

    S. Scott the Scout: tries to find new talents
    [XI based on original price, but one more unknown-value player]

    W. Will the Watcher: only looks at stats
    [Same formation as Dan, then XI based on Avg+- (players priced less than
    30K only if positive score)]

    --
    Cheers
    milivella
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  • From Jesus Petry@jesus.petry@gmail.com to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Apr 27 12:30:31 2026
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    I'll go with Dan.

    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry

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  • From Werner Pichler@no_email@invalid.invalid to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Apr 27 17:12:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.sport.soccer

    milivella <milivella@gmail.com> wrote:
    What happened
    =============

    You chose to offer 300K (also max offer) to Empoli for Tricarico.

    What happened (squad, bank, table, results of matches before yours if
    any, your fixture, opponents' line-up): http://rssclash.altervista.org/staff/0372/index.html

    New choice
    ==========

    Who do you agree with?

    B. Ben the Basic: "Thanks, John, for finally giving me 11 players to field!" 5-3-2
    01
    02 05 03
    04 06
    07 08 11
    10 09
    No Player Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+- --------------------------------------------------------------
    01 Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 40 0 +60 +1.50 --------------------------------------------------------------
    02 Tricarico RW D 250K 15 SCT ITA 0 0 +00 0.00
    05 Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 78 0 +58 +0.74
    03 Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 77 0 +56 +0.73 --------------------------------------------------------------
    04 McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 41 2 +50 +1.22
    06 Puputti CM DM,D 250K 15 PTS FIN 54 0 +48 +0.89 --------------------------------------------------------------
    07 Halonen RW AM 160K 12 SCP FIN 65 1 +65 +1.00
    08 Wiss CM DM 150K 11 PTC FIN 22 1 -07 -0.32
    11 Tsymbalar LW AM 600K 21 CSP RUS 23 1 +40 +1.74 --------------------------------------------------------------
    10 Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232225 FHS FIN 47 26 +40 +0.85
    09 J.Viljanen LW A 180K 13 CSF FIN 2 1 -02 -1.00

    D. Dan the Dazzled (and Noah the Netter): "Yeah, Tricarico is an improvement."
    3-4-3
    01
    02 05 03
    06
    07 04 11
    10 09 08
    No Player Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+- --------------------------------------------------------------
    01 Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 40 0 +60 +1.50 --------------------------------------------------------------
    02 Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 78 0 +58 +0.74
    05 Eggen CD 450K 18 HTP NOR 20 0 +34 +1.70
    03 Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 77 0 +56 +0.73 --------------------------------------------------------------
    06 Puputti CM DM,D 250K 15 PTS FIN 54 0 +48 +0.89 --------------------------------------------------------------
    07 Tricarico RW D 250K 15 SCT ITA 0 0 +00 0.00
    04 McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 41 2 +50 +1.22
    11 Tsymbalar LW AM 600K 21 CSP RUS 23 1 +40 +1.74 --------------------------------------------------------------
    10 Tauriainen A 250K 15 0241215 FHV FIN 67 90 +61 +0.91
    09 Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232225 FHS FIN 47 26 +40 +0.85
    08 Vanhala A 250K 15 5214111 PTV FIN 67 18 +50 +0.75

    W. Will the Watcher: "No, Tricarico is _untested_. Let's stick to our trusted boys."
    3-4-3
    01
    02 05 03
    06
    07 04 11
    10 09 08
    No Player Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+- --------------------------------------------------------------
    01 Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 40 0 +60 +1.50 --------------------------------------------------------------
    02 Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 78 0 +58 +0.74
    05 Eggen CD 450K 18 HTP NOR 20 0 +34 +1.70
    03 Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 77 0 +56 +0.73 --------------------------------------------------------------
    06 Puputti CM DM,D 250K 15 PTS FIN 54 0 +48 +0.89 --------------------------------------------------------------
    07 Halonen RW AM 160K 12 SCP FIN 65 1 +65 +1.00
    04 McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 41 2 +50 +1.22
    11 Tsymbalar LW AM 600K 21 CSP RUS 23 1 +40 +1.74 --------------------------------------------------------------
    10 Tauriainen A 250K 15 0241215 FHV FIN 67 90 +61 +0.91
    09 Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232225 FHS FIN 47 26 +40 +0.85
    08 Vanhala A 250K 15 5214111 PTV FIN 67 18 +50 +0.75

    O. Ollie the Opponent: "FinnPa are better than us! Let's park the bus."
    5-3-2
    01
    02 05 03
    04 06
    07 08 11
    10 09
    No Player Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+- --------------------------------------------------------------
    01 Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 40 0 +60 +1.50 --------------------------------------------------------------
    02 Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 78 0 +58 +0.74
    05 Eggen CD 450K 18 HTP NOR 20 0 +34 +1.70
    03 Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 77 0 +56 +0.73 --------------------------------------------------------------
    04 Snellman CD 100K 8 TFH FIN 10 0 +09 +0.90
    06 P.Viljanen CD 160K 12 HTP FIN 15 0 +16 +1.07 --------------------------------------------------------------
    07 Tricarico RW D 250K 15 SCT ITA 0 0 +00 0.00
    08 McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 41 2 +50 +1.22
    11 Tsymbalar LW AM 600K 21 CSP RUS 23 1 +40 +1.74 --------------------------------------------------------------
    10 Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232225 FHS FIN 47 26 +40 +0.85
    09 Tauriainen A 250K 15 0241215 FHV FIN 67 90 +61 +0.91

    P. Pat the Paranoid: "Are you all crazy playing knocked Tsymbalar?!"
    3-4-3
    01
    02 05 03
    06
    07 04 11
    10 09 08
    No Player Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+- --------------------------------------------------------------
    01 Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 40 0 +60 +1.50 --------------------------------------------------------------
    02 Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 78 0 +58 +0.74
    05 Eggen CD 450K 18 HTP NOR 20 0 +34 +1.70
    03 Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 77 0 +56 +0.73 --------------------------------------------------------------
    06 Puputti CM DM,D 250K 15 PTS FIN 54 0 +48 +0.89 --------------------------------------------------------------
    07 Tricarico RW D 250K 15 SCT ITA 0 0 +00 0.00
    04 McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 41 2 +50 +1.22
    11 Yeremenko LW 200K 14 SCH RUS 44 3 +27 +0.61 --------------------------------------------------------------
    10 Tauriainen A 250K 15 0241215 FHV FIN 67 90 +61 +0.91
    09 Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232225 FHS FIN 47 26 +40 +0.85
    08 Vanhala A 250K 15 5214111 PTV FIN 67 18 +50 +0.75


    I canrCOt but help to agree with Pat.
    Although IrCOm also curious to see 5-3-2 in action.

    Pat 90%
    Ollie 5%
    Ben 5%


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Futbolmetrix@futbolmetrix@yahoo.com to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Apr 28 11:23:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.sport.soccer

    On Sun, 26 Apr 2026 20:51:14 +0200, milivella <milivella@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    What happened
    =============


    Who do you agree with?

    B. Ben the Basic: "Thanks, John, for finally giving me 11 players to field!" >5-3-2

    D. Dan the Dazzled (and Noah the Netter): "Yeah, Tricarico is an >improvement."
    3-4-3

    W. Will the Watcher: "No, Tricarico is _untested_. Let's stick to our >trusted boys."

    O. Ollie the Opponent: "FinnPa are better than us! Let's park the bus."
    5-3-2

    P. Pat the Paranoid: "Are you all crazy playing knocked Tsymbalar?!"
    3-4-3

    Somewhat curious about parking the bus, but I'm still leaning to the
    new toy thing.

    Dan 0.8
    Ollie 0.2



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