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England disappointed in 5 T20s and 3 ODIs in India.
They are a better team than the 1-7 win loss record.
Ahmedabad pitch is kind of docile, England won the toss, elected to
field and still lost the match big time. Failed to even put up a good
fight.
England was ahead at 80/2 in 8.4 overs and then meekly caved in.
Most of the batters and bowlers both under performed.
2019 ODI and 2022 T20 World Champs to nobodys in a couple of years.
In message <Dq2rP.5310$7fef.1680@fx05.ams4>, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer <FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer@america.com> writes
England disappointed in 5 T20s and 3 ODIs in India.
They are a better team than the 1-7 win loss record.
Ahmedabad pitch is kind of docile, England won the toss, elected to
field and still lost the match big time. Failed to even put up a good
fight.
England was ahead at 80/2 in 8.4 overs and then meekly caved in.
Most of the batters and bowlers both under performed.
2019 ODI and 2022 T20 World Champs to nobodys in a couple of years.
I can't argue with any of that. I think it's shown just how huge an influence Eoin Morgan had. Since he retired, it's been all downhill.
In message <Dq2rP.5310$7fef.1680@fx05.ams4>, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer <FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer@america.com> writes
England disappointed in 5 T20s and 3 ODIs in India.
They are a better team than the 1-7 win loss record.
Ahmedabad pitch is kind of docile, England won the toss, elected to
field and still lost the match big time. Failed to even put up a good >>fight.
England was ahead at 80/2 in 8.4 overs and then meekly caved in.
Most of the batters and bowlers both under performed.
2019 ODI and 2022 T20 World Champs to nobodys in a couple of years.
I can't argue with any of that. I think it's shown just how huge an
influence Eoin Morgan had. Since he retired, it's been all downhill.
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:56:37 +0000, John Hall wrote:
In message <Dq2rP.5310$7fef.1680@fx05.ams4>, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
<FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer@america.com> writes
England disappointed in 5 T20s and 3 ODIs in India.
They are a better team than the 1-7 win loss record.
Ahmedabad pitch is kind of docile, England won the toss, elected to
field and still lost the match big time. Failed to even put up a good >>>fight.
England was ahead at 80/2 in 8.4 overs and then meekly caved in.
Most of the batters and bowlers both under performed.
2019 ODI and 2022 T20 World Champs to nobodys in a couple of years.
I can't argue with any of that. I think it's shown just how huge an
influence Eoin Morgan had. Since he retired, it's been all downhill.
And he was Irish !
Why is England the only nation playing 100 ball cricket ? Is this a new
thing they are hoping to sell to the world or are they doing it just to
be different ? From what I see there are too many different formats in >Cricket. It's confusing.
I can't argue with any of that. I think it's shown just how huge an
influence Eoin Morgan had. Since he retired, it's been all downhill.
And he was Irish !
True.
Why is England the only nation playing 100 ball cricket ? Is this a new
thing they are hoping to sell to the world or are they doing it just to
be different ? From what I see there are too many different formats in
Cricket. It's confusing.
I think the idea was probably that it would be their USP (unique selling point), so just to be different. Also it makes the matches that bit
shorter than T20, which probably improved the chances of a FTA TV
network picking it up (which the BBC duly did).
In message <Dq2rP.5310$7fef.1680@fx05.ams4>, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer <FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer@america.com> writes
England disappointed in 5 T20s and 3 ODIs in India.
They are a better team than the 1-7 win loss record.
Ahmedabad pitch is kind of docile, England won the toss, elected to
field and still lost the match big time. Failed to even put up a good
fight.
England was ahead at 80/2 in 8.4 overs and then meekly caved in.
Most of the batters and bowlers both under performed.
2019 ODI and 2022 T20 World Champs to nobodys in a couple of years.
I can't argue with any of that. I think it's shown just how huge an influence Eoin Morgan had. Since he retired, it's been all downhill.
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:56:37 +0000, John Hall wrote:
In message <Dq2rP.5310$7fef.1680@fx05.ams4>, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
<FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer@america.com> writes
England disappointed in 5 T20s and 3 ODIs in India.
They are a better team than the 1-7 win loss record.
Ahmedabad pitch is kind of docile, England won the toss, elected to
field and still lost the match big time. Failed to even put up a good
fight.
England was ahead at 80/2 in 8.4 overs and then meekly caved in.
Most of the batters and bowlers both under performed.
2019 ODI and 2022 T20 World Champs to nobodys in a couple of years.
I can't argue with any of that. I think it's shown just how huge an
influence Eoin Morgan had. Since he retired, it's been all downhill.
And he was Irish !
Why is England the only nation playing 100 ball cricket ? Is this a new
thing they are hoping to sell to the world or are they doing it just to
be different ? From what I see there are too many different formats in Cricket. It's confusing.
In message <Dq2rP.5310$7fef.1680@fx05.ams4>, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer <FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer@america.com> writes
England disappointed in 5 T20s and 3 ODIs in India.
They are a better team than the 1-7 win loss record.
Ahmedabad pitch is kind of docile, England won the toss, elected to
field and still lost the match big time. Failed to even put up a good >>fight.
England was ahead at 80/2 in 8.4 overs and then meekly caved in.
Most of the batters and bowlers both under performed.
2019 ODI and 2022 T20 World Champs to nobodys in a couple of years.
I can't argue with any of that. I think it's shown just how huge an
influence Eoin Morgan had. Since he retired, it's been all downhill.
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:56:37 +0000, John Hall wrote:
In message <Dq2rP.5310$7fef.1680@fx05.ams4>, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
<FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer@america.com> writes
England disappointed in 5 T20s and 3 ODIs in India.
They are a better team than the 1-7 win loss record.
Ahmedabad pitch is kind of docile, England won the toss, elected to
field and still lost the match big time. Failed to even put up a good
fight.
England was ahead at 80/2 in 8.4 overs and then meekly caved in.
Most of the batters and bowlers both under performed.
2019 ODI and 2022 T20 World Champs to nobodys in a couple of years.
I can't argue with any of that. I think it's shown just how huge an
influence Eoin Morgan had. Since he retired, it's been all downhill.
It seems like he may have lost his touch.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/international-masters- league-2024-25-1474856/india-masters-vs-england-masters-3rd- match-1474864/full-scorecard
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On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:56:37 +0000, John Hall wrote:
In message <Dq2rP.5310$7fef.1680@fx05.ams4>, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer
<FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer@america.com> writes
England disappointed in 5 T20s and 3 ODIs in India.
They are a better team than the 1-7 win loss record.
Ahmedabad pitch is kind of docile, England won the toss, elected to
field and still lost the match big time. Failed to even put up a good
fight.
England was ahead at 80/2 in 8.4 overs and then meekly caved in.
Most of the batters and bowlers both under performed.
2019 ODI and 2022 T20 World Champs to nobodys in a couple of years.
I can't argue with any of that. I think it's shown just how huge an
influence Eoin Morgan had. Since he retired, it's been all downhill.
And he was Irish !
Why is England the only nation playing 100 ball cricket ? Is this a new
thing they are hoping to sell to the world or are they doing it just to
be different ? From what I see there are too many different formats in Cricket. It's confusing.
On 12/02/2025 16:56, John Hall wrote:
In message <Dq2rP.5310$7fef.1680@fx05.ams4>,
FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer <FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer@america.com> >>writes
I can't argue with any of that. I think it's shown just how huge an >>influence Eoin Morgan had. Since he retired, it's been all downhill.
England disappointed in 5 T20s and 3 ODIs in India.
They are a better team than the 1-7 win loss record.
Ahmedabad pitch is kind of docile, England won the toss, elected to >>>field and still lost the match big time. Failed to even put up a good >>>fight.
England was ahead at 80/2 in 8.4 overs and then meekly caved in.
Most of the batters and bowlers both under performed.
2019 ODI and 2022 T20 World Champs to nobodys in a couple of years.
The other significant change since 2019 is that once players are good
enough to be picked for the Hundred, they play very little if any
one-day cricket until they get picked for England. It's probably no >coincidence that England's ODI fortunes have declined since that has
been the case.
On 25/02/2025 16:31, John Hall wrote:
Why is England the only nation playing 100 ball cricket ? Is this a new
thing they are hoping to sell to the world or are they doing it just to
be different ? From what I see there are too many different formats in
Cricket. It's confusing.
I think the idea was probably that it would be their USP (unique selling
point), so just to be different. Also it makes the matches that bit
shorter than T20, which probably improved the chances of a FTA TV
network picking it up (which the BBC duly did).
Mainly the latter, I think. It isn't sufficiently different from T20
that anyone else is likely to adopt it, unless it's to fit a slightly
tighter schedule.
The ECB claimed that it was easier for newbies to understand, but I'm
not convinced that it makes any significant difference in that regard.
In message <m27rfeFtkgrU1@mid.individual.net>, David North <nospam@lane- farm.fsnet.co.uk> writes
On 12/02/2025 16:56, John Hall wrote:
In message <Dq2rP.5310$7fef.1680@fx05.ams4>,
FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer-a <FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer@america.com>
writes
-aI can't argue with any of that. I think it's shown just how huge an
England disappointed in 5 T20s and 3 ODIs in India.
They are a better team than the 1-7 win loss record.
Ahmedabad pitch is kind of docile, England won the toss, elected to
field and still lost the match big time. Failed to even put up a
good fight.
England was ahead at 80/2 in 8.4 overs and then meekly caved in.
Most of the batters and bowlers both under performed.
2019 ODI and 2022 T20 World Champs to nobodys in a couple of years.
influence Eoin Morgan had. Since he retired, it's been all downhill.
The other significant change since 2019 is that once players are good
enough to be picked for the Hundred, they play very little if any one-
day cricket until they get picked for England. It's probably no
coincidence that England's ODI fortunes have declined since that has
been the case.
That's probably a factor, but England's T20 fortunes have also declined
and they play plenty of that.
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 6:32:11 +0000, David North wrote:
On 25/02/2025 16:31, John Hall wrote:
Why is England the only nation playing 100 ball cricket ? Is this a new >>>> thing they are hoping to sell to the world or are they doing it just to >>>> be different ? From what I see there are too many different formats in >>>> Cricket. It's confusing.
I think the idea was probably that it would be their USP (unique selling >>> point), so just to be different. Also it makes the matches that bit
shorter than T20, which probably improved the chances of a FTA TV
network picking it up (which the BBC duly did).
Mainly the latter, I think. It isn't sufficiently different from T20
that anyone else is likely to adopt it, unless it's to fit a slightly
tighter schedule.
The ECB claimed that it was easier for newbies to understand, but I'm
not convinced that it makes any significant difference in that regard.
I am a reasonable newbie. Not interested in five day cricket i do find
the T20 stuff good to watch tho. { IPL and other franchise leagues. }
The 100, whilst watchable, seems to be a cut-down version of T20 and
just means another format for the sake of it. Upgrade the Blast and be
done with it.
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 14:37:40 +0000, Silver Skull wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 6:32:11 +0000, David North wrote:
On 25/02/2025 16:31, John Hall wrote:
Why is England the only nation playing 100 ball cricket ? Is this a new >>>>> thing they are hoping to sell to the world or are they doing it just to >>>>> be different ? From what I see there are too many different formats in >>>>> Cricket. It's confusing.
I think the idea was probably that it would be their USP (unique selling >>>> point), so just to be different. Also it makes the matches that bit
shorter than T20, which probably improved the chances of a FTA TV
network picking it up (which the BBC duly did).
Mainly the latter, I think. It isn't sufficiently different from T20
that anyone else is likely to adopt it, unless it's to fit a slightly
tighter schedule.
The ECB claimed that it was easier for newbies to understand, but I'm
not convinced that it makes any significant difference in that regard.
I am a reasonable newbie. Not interested in five day cricket i do find
the T20 stuff good to watch tho. { IPL and other franchise leagues. }
The 100, whilst watchable, seems to be a cut-down version of T20 and
just means another format for the sake of it. Upgrade the Blast and be
done with it.
It's all about the -u now. Did you see how much money the ECB made from
the recent Hundred franchise stake auction? Overseas investors must see
some potential in this limited format. It does have a future.
On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 13:06:37 +0000, Theory11 wrote:
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 14:37:40 +0000, Silver Skull wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 6:32:11 +0000, David North wrote:
On 25/02/2025 16:31, John Hall wrote:
Why is England the only nation playing 100 ball cricket ? Is this >>>>>> a new
thing they are hoping to sell to the world or are they doing it
just to
be different ? From what I see there are too many different
formats in
Cricket. It's confusing.
I think the idea was probably that it would be their USP (unique
selling
point), so just to be different. Also it makes the matches that bit
shorter than T20, which probably improved the chances of a FTA TV
network picking it up (which the BBC duly did).
Mainly the latter, I think. It isn't sufficiently different from T20
that anyone else is likely to adopt it, unless it's to fit a slightly
tighter schedule.
The ECB claimed that it was easier for newbies to understand, but I'm
not convinced that it makes any significant difference in that regard.
I am a reasonable newbie. Not interested in five day cricket i do find
the T20 stuff good to watch tho. { IPL and other franchise leagues. }
The 100, whilst watchable, seems to be a cut-down version of T20 and
just means another format for the sake of it. Upgrade the Blast and be
done with it.
It's all about the -u now. Did you see how much money the ECB made from
the recent Hundred franchise stake auction? Overseas investors must see
some potential in this limited format. It does have a future.
If the rest of the world was to adopt "The100" format competitions where would that leave their T20 franchises?