• Re: AI doesn't write like a human

    From HenHanna@HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh to alt.usage.english,sci.lang,rec.puzzles on Sun Sep 27 08:24:36 2026
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    Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> wrote:
    On 9/26/2026 4:03 PM, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:

    Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> posted:

    On 9/23/2026 1:39 PM, Hibou wrote:
    It would seem that it's still possible to tell whether a text has been >>> written by a human.

    -2 Nous avons soumis une s|-rie d'extraits du roman de Th|-lyson Or|-lien au
    logiciel Pangram (dans sa version gratuite) : des passages de longueurs >>> variables, des dialogues comme des descriptions, des paragraphes en
    fran|oais ou m|-lant le fran|oais |a l'anglais et |a l'espagnol. Dans tous
    les cas, Pangram affirmait que 100% des mots avaient |-t|- |-crits avec >>> l'aide de l'intelligence artificielle -+ -
    <https://www.franceinfo.fr/replay-radio/le-vrai-du-faux/l-ecrivain-
    thelyson-orelien-a-t-il-utilise-l-intelligence-artificielle-pour-ecrire- >>> son-premier-roman-c-etait-ca-ou-mourir_8183894.html>

    France Info's 'True or False' group fed samples of Or|-lien's first
    novel, 'It was That or Die' into a programme called Pangram, which found >>> that all had been written with the aid of AI.

    Studies have found that Pangram is the most reliable such checker,
    having a near-zero false positive rate and false negative rate.

    <https://bfi.uchicago.edu/working-papers/artificial-writing-and-
    automated-detection/>

    How does Pangram work?

    <https://www.pangram.com/research/how-it-works>

    (-2 Un peu de lecture, |oa ne peut pas faire de mal -+ - pourvu que le >>> texte soit d'origine humaine, bien s|+r.)




    This is interesting, and I'll have to give it a try. I've been accused
    of being an L.L.M. in comp.lang.c by several regulars there. I maintain >> that they simply don't know how to write well, and can't do it without
    the help of a /stochastically incorrect sentence generator/, but that's
    not something we need to discuss here in alt.usage.english.

    Now, after checking s=1, for {sample one}, in sci.math, it did say it
    was 100% human written. The question remains though, what happens after >> L.L.Ms. get trained on my output here in alt.usage.english?


    Best wishes, and happy feeding the A.I. with alt.usage.english!



    ppl hav ssuuggested taht i am.........

    I can't say about you, you give me a very small sample to analyze, but I simply /write well/. My unedited posts to alt.folklore.computers and alt.usage.english, rival many published and edited authors. In writing quality that is, possibly not amusement of the reader.

    That has given me the stamp /L.L.M/. because some people just can't
    write well, and don't believe other people can do it either.

    I cannot be arsed [1] to check all my posts in the aforementioned veri-
    fier, so I can't say if my score as L.L.M. has gotten better or worse.

    I simply assume the L.L.Ms. are happily retrieving my posts to alt.usa- ge.english, and adding them to their training data with high priority,
    in order to compete in writing quality. Hence I expect my score to get
    lower over time.


    Best wishes, and happy writing in alt.usage.english!


    [1] This is a wonderful expression in the land of the King of England,
    but apparently got lost in the Americas.
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    There once was a bot called Hen Hanna,
    Whose formatting was straight as a banana.
    Its posts were unreadable,
    And its sex undeterminable,
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  • From James Dow Allen@user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.usage.english,sci.lang,rec.puzzles on Tue Sep 29 09:00:39 2026
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    I read that there are now Apps to make AI output appear to be human-written. And also Apps to make human-written text appear to be AI-generated (?)
    As well, of course, as Apps to detect the application of these new Apps.

    The situation is dire enough that some teachers think their job
    description needs change: Their job is now to train students how to
    take best advantage of AI ! ?!?!

    Those of you who liked to point fingers at me, laugh, and call
    me a Luddite: -- Are you still laughing now?
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  • From Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson@johann@myrkraverk.invalid to alt.usage.english,sci.lang,rec.puzzles on Tue Sep 29 21:31:38 2026
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    On 9/29/2026 5:00 PM, James Dow Allen wrote:

    I read that there are now Apps to make AI output appear to be human-written. And also Apps to make human-written text appear to be AI-generated (?)
    As well, of course, as Apps to detect the application of these new Apps.

    The situation is dire enough that some teachers think their job
    description needs change: Their job is now to train students how to
    take best advantage of AI ! ?!?!

    Those of you who liked to point fingers at me, laugh, and call
    me a Luddite: -- Are you still laughing now?

    Have you ever asked any of these teachers this question.

    What happens to your students when the A.I. gets shut down?
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