• Puzzling Questions

    From ram@ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) to rec.puzzles on Thu Sep 10 08:49:18 2026
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    I hope these are on-topic here, even though they are more about
    physics than about math. However, one does not need to learn
    physics now as everthing needed to answer is already given
    in the questions or should be known from high-school I think.

    The answers could be somewhat controversial, but I think that
    there really is one single correct answer. However, it might
    not be accepted as correct by everyone.

    "E = mc^2" does /not/ mean that energy (E) can be converted
    into mass (m), but rather that mass is always conserved.
    Can you see why? ("c" is a constant, the speed of light.)

    A manufacturer of tea bags says on the external packaging [1],
    "Always pour bubbling boiling water over it and let it steep
    for 6 minutes! Only then will you get a safe food product!"
    - Can you see the error in the time requirement of 6 minutes?

    [1] This is a real observation, the original German text reads:
    "Immer mit sprudelnd kochendem Wasser aufgie|fen und 6 Minuten
    ziehen lassen! Nur so erh|nltst du ein sicheres Lebensmittel!".


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  • From richard@richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) to rec.puzzles on Thu Sep 10 10:26:25 2026
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    In article <questions-20260910093009@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>,
    Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:

    A manufacturer of tea bags says on the external packaging [1],
    "Always pour bubbling boiling water over it and let it steep
    for 6 minutes! Only then will you get a safe food product!"

    You'd think it would be illegal to make false statements about
    food safety on food packaging.

    -- Richard
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  • From ram@ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) to rec.puzzles on Thu Sep 17 09:26:24 2026
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    ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote or quoted:
    I hope these are on-topic here, even though they are more about
    physics than about math. However, one does not need to learn
    physics now as everthing needed to answer is already given
    in the questions or should be known from high-school I think.

    The answers could be somewhat controversial, but I think that
    there really is one single correct answer. However, it might
    not be accepted as correct by everyone.

    "E = mc^2" does /not/ mean that energy (E) can be converted
    into mass (m), but rather that mass is always conserved.
    Can you see why? ("c" is a constant, the speed of light.)

    Spoiler warning: This post now contains what I deem to be
    the correct answers.

    We know from high-school that energy is conserved, i.e.,
    constant. The speed of light also is constant. But when E
    is constant, c is constant, and E=mc^2, m also is constant!

    A manufacturer of tea bags says on the external packaging [1],
    "Always pour bubbling boiling water over it and let it steep
    for 6 minutes! Only then will you get a safe food product!"
    - Can you see the error in the time requirement of 6 minutes?

    This was actually herbal tea, but that should not matter for my
    following thoughts.

    When you end the steeping, you remove the bag from the hot water. If
    you do this after 6 minutes you make sure that the bag is sterilized.
    But that bag is not consumed. If you remove it after six seconds in-
    stead, you will still have to wait six minutes before the drink has
    cooled down from nearly 100 degrees Celsius, so the drink will be
    properly sterilized anyway, not matter when the bag is removed.


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  • From Phil Carmody@pc+usenet@asdf.org to rec.puzzles on Wed Sep 30 23:33:12 2026
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    ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
    ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote or quoted:
    "E = mc^2" does /not/ mean that energy (E) can be converted
    into mass (m), but rather that mass is always conserved.
    Can you see why? ("c" is a constant, the speed of light.)

    Spoiler warning: This post now contains what I deem to be
    the correct answers.

    We know from high-school that energy is conserved, i.e.,
    constant. The speed of light also is constant. But when E
    is constant, c is constant, and E=mc^2, m also is constant!

    Energy isn't conserved. That was a naive pre-GR view.

    The equations of motion are not invariant over time, therefore Noether's theorem has no symmetry to work with, and provides no invariance law.

    Phil
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