• in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?)

    From HenHanna@NewsGrouper@user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.puzzles,sci.lang,alt.usage.english on Sat May 23 09:10:10 2026
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    (I like this one!) Becoming Doyle - The Evolution of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #arthurconandoyle #sherlockholmes - YouTube
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8BARPMHW1-M



    Philomena Cunk on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #cunk #history #funny #funnyshorts #philosophicalthinking - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5lO4dNvvOic

    ---------- She even got ACD's name wrong! (Maybe on purpose?)


    (Is she saying "skinny" at the end?) (not Skidding) ?


    Is this a real person or AI ?



    >>> In that clip from Cunk on Earth, actress Diane Morgan (playing her brilliant, clueless character Philomena Cunk) is actually using the British slang adjective "skinnier" (referring to the plot or substance), but the auto-generated captions misheard her thick Northern accent and transcribed it as the nonsense phrase "skidding"


    The Accent: Diane Morgan speaks with a heavy Bolton (Greater Manchester) accent. Northern English accents tend to clip vowels and soften "n" sounds, which frequently breaks basic AI subtitle bots.

    -------------actually using the British slang adjective "skinnier" (referring to the plot or substance), but the auto-generated captions misheard her thick Northern accent and transcribed it as the nonsense phrase "skidding" (0:17).The Real Quote Explained

    What Philomena Cunk actually says at the end of that sentence is: -------- "Although in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier." (0:17)

    When she says "isn't skinnier" here, she is intentionally twisting British slang. She is mocking the Fast and the Furious movie franchise by saying that unlike those thin, mindless action movies, the Sherlock Holmes sequels actually have deeper, meatier plots that aren't "skinny" on details (0:09).
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  • From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Sat May 23 18:02:52 2026
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    On Sat, 23 May 2026 09:10:10 GMT, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:

    (Is she saying "skinny" at the end?) (not Skidding) ?


    Is this a real person or AI ?

    AI, not a real person.


    >>> In that clip from Cunk on Earth, actress Diane Morgan (playing
    >>> her brilliant, clueless character Philomena Cunk) is actually
    >>> using the British slang adjective "skinnier" (referring to the
    >>> plot or substance), but the auto-generated captions misheard
    >>> her thick Northern accent and transcribed it as the nonsense
    >>> phrase "skidding"

    No one from Bolton is saying anything in that video. I grew up in Bolton
    and would know. I was born there in 1959. We say buzz, instead of bus. And cayke, instead of cake. It is a fairly distinctive accent, certainly when
    you lived their during your formative years.

    The Accent: Diane Morgan speaks with a heavy Bolton (Greater Manchester) accent. Northern English accents tend to clip vowels and soften "n"
    sounds, which frequently breaks basic AI subtitle bots.

    I'd say no real person, certainly no one from Bolton, is speaking in that video.

    -------------actually using the British slang adjective "skinnier"
    (referring to the plot or substance), but the auto-generated captions misheard her thick Northern accent and transcribed it as the nonsense
    phrase "skidding" (0:17).The Real Quote Explained

    AI misheard AI. I wouldn't worry about it. It is neither here, nor there.

    What Philomena Cunk actually says at the end of that sentence is:
    -------- "Although in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens
    that isn't skinnier." (0:17)

    No one real said anything of any importance. I wouldn't worry about the details.

    When she says "isn't skinnier" here, she is intentionally twisting
    British slang. She is mocking the Fast and the Furious movie franchise
    by saying that unlike those thin, mindless action movies, the Sherlock
    Holmes sequels actually have deeper, meatier plots that aren't "skinny"
    on details (0:09).

    I doubt it. I don't think any human said anything.
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  • From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Sat May 23 18:03:57 2026
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    On Sat, 23 May 2026 18:02:52 -0000 (UTC), David Entwistle wrote:

    you lived their during your formative years.

    there...
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  • From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Sat May 23 18:25:47 2026
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    On Sat, 23 May 2026 18:02:52 -0000 (UTC), David Entwistle wrote:

    No one from Bolton is saying anything in that video. If you want to hear
    the accent:

    Sara Cox is from Little Lever, near Bolton.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Cox

    Vernon Kay is from Horwich, near Bolton,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Kay

    Peter Kay is from Farnworth near Bolton.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kay

    Their accents have distinct traits, but would be reconizable as from the greater Bolton area.
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  • From HenHanna@NewsGrouper@user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.puzzles,sci.lang,alt.usage.english on Sun May 24 00:27:40 2026
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Morgan
    i think is from Manchester...
    (but maybe it's a fake accent) -- Ok it seems a real Bolton accent.

    and the word spoken was Skidding.


    David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> posted:

    On Sat, 23 May 2026 09:10:10 GMT, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:

    (Is she saying "skinny" at the end?) (not Skidding) ?


    Is this a real person or AI ?

    AI, not a real person.


    >>> In that clip from Cunk on Earth, actress Diane Morgan (playing
    >>> her brilliant, clueless character Philomena Cunk) is actually
    >>> using the British slang adjective "skinnier" (referring to the
    >>> plot or substance), but the auto-generated captions misheard
    >>> her thick Northern accent and transcribed it as the nonsense
    >>> phrase "skidding"

    No one from Bolton is saying anything in that video. I grew up in Bolton
    and would know. I was born there in 1959. We say buzz, instead of bus. And cayke, instead of cake. It is a fairly distinctive accent, certainly when you lived their during your formative years.

    The Accent: Diane Morgan speaks with a heavy Bolton (Greater Manchester) accent. Northern English accents tend to clip vowels and soften "n"
    sounds, which frequently breaks basic AI subtitle bots.

    I'd say no real person, certainly no one from Bolton, is speaking in that video.

    -------------actually using the British slang adjective "skinnier" (referring to the plot or substance), but the auto-generated captions misheard her thick Northern accent and transcribed it as the nonsense phrase "skidding" (0:17).The Real Quote Explained

    AI misheard AI. I wouldn't worry about it. It is neither here, nor there.

    What Philomena Cunk actually says at the end of that sentence is:
    -------- "Although in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens
    that isn't skinnier." (0:17)

    No one real said anything of any importance. I wouldn't worry about the details.

    When she says "isn't skinnier" here, she is intentionally twisting
    British slang. She is mocking the Fast and the Furious movie franchise
    by saying that unlike those thin, mindless action movies, the Sherlock Holmes sequels actually have deeper, meatier plots that aren't "skinny"
    on details (0:09).

    I doubt it. I don't think any human said anything.

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  • From Mike Terry@news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com to rec.puzzles,sci.lang,alt.usage.english on Sat May 23 21:24:43 2026
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    On 23/05/2026 10:10, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:
    [..snip..]
    Philomena Cunk on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #cunk #history #funny #funnyshorts #philosophicalthinking - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5lO4dNvvOic

    ---------- She even got ACD's name wrong! (Maybe on purpose?)

    yes, that's the sort of thing she does.

    (Is she saying "skinny" at the end?) (not Skidding) ?

    Sounds to me like "skidding", and that makes sense in context - suggesting that the Fast and Furious
    franchise consists of nothing other than cars racing about and skidding round the corners. I think
    I saw one of them once, and that matches my recollection! :)


    Is this a real person or AI ?

    Well,
    a) It looks like PC
    b) It sounds just like her
    c) The material is just like other PC programmes I've seen.
    d) I've no idea whether she comes from Bolton, or what that has to do with anything

    So I'll go for REAL, but hey, AI fakes can be quite convincing these days, I guess.

    Mike.

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  • From Mike Terry@news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com to rec.puzzles,sci.lang,alt.usage.english on Sat May 23 21:04:04 2026
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    On 23/05/2026 10:10, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:
    [..snip..]
    Philomena Cunk on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #cunk #history #funny #funnyshorts #philosophicalthinking - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5lO4dNvvOic

    ---------- She even got ACD's name wrong! (Maybe on purpose?)

    yes, that's the sort of thing she does.

    (Is she saying "skinny" at the end?) (not Skidding) ?

    Sounds to me like "skidding", and that makes sense in context - suggesting that the Fast and Furious
    franchise consists of nothing other than cars racing about and skidding round the corners. I think
    I saw one of them once, and that matches my recollection! :)


    Is this a real person or AI ?

    Well,
    a) It looks like PC
    b) It sounds just like her
    c) The material is just like other PC programmes I've seen.
    d) I've no idea whether she comes from Bolton, or what that has to do with anything

    So I'll go for REAL, but hey, AI fakes can be quite convincing these days, I guess.

    Mike.

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  • From Mike Terry@news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com to rec.puzzles,sci.lang,alt.usage.english on Sat May 23 21:12:27 2026
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    On 23/05/2026 10:10, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:
    [..snip..]
    Philomena Cunk on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #cunk #history #funny #funnyshorts #philosophicalthinking - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5lO4dNvvOic

    ---------- She even got ACD's name wrong! (Maybe on purpose?)

    yes, that's the sort of thing she does.

    (Is she saying "skinny" at the end?) (not Skidding) ?

    Sounds to me like "skidding", and that makes sense in context - suggesting that the Fast and Furious
    franchise consists of nothing other than cars racing about and skidding round the corners. I think
    I saw one of them once, and that matches my recollection! :)


    Is this a real person or AI ?

    Well,
    a) It looks like PC
    b) It sounds just like her
    c) The material is just like other PC programmes I've seen.
    d) I've no idea whether she comes from Bolton, or what that has to do with anything

    So I'll go for REAL, but hey, AI fakes can be quite convincing these days, I guess.

    Mike.

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  • From HenHanna@NewsGrouper@user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.puzzles,sci.lang,alt.usage.english on Sun May 24 20:01:50 2026
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    Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> posted:

    On 23/05/2026 10:10, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:
    [..snip..]
    Philomena Cunk on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #cunk #history #funny #funnyshorts #philosophicalthinking - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5lO4dNvvOic

    ---------- She even got ACD's name wrong! (Maybe on purpose?)

    yes, that's the sort of thing she does.

    (Is she saying "skinny" at the end?) (not Skidding) ?

    Sounds to me like "skidding", and that makes sense in context - suggesting that the Fast and Furious
    franchise consists of nothing other than cars racing about and skidding round the corners. I think
    I saw one of them once, and that matches my recollection! :)


    Is this a real person or AI ?

    Well,
    a) It looks like PC
    b) It sounds just like her
    c) The material is just like other PC programmes I've seen.
    d) I've no idea whether she comes from Bolton, or what that has to do with anything

    So I'll go for REAL, but hey, AI fakes can be quite convincing these days, I guess.

    Mike.



    Philomena Cunk on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #cunk #history #funny #funnyshorts #philosophicalthinking - YouTube


    Thanks... PCunk must be (or might be)
    as memorable as my fav. female recurring characters from SNL
    ---------- Rosanne Rosanadana, or BabaWawa
    or the woman who says Simmer Down Now!

    Roseanne Roseannadanna: A brash, frizzy-haired consumer affairs reporter on Weekend Update. She always started by reading a letter from "Mr. Richard Feder of Fort Lee, New Jersey," before launching into graphic, off-topic stories. She always wrapped up her rants with her famous catchphrase: "ItrCOs always something!"


    ______________

    Yes, the name "Cunk" is a deliberate, crude play on words meant to sound like a cross between "cunt" and "cock".


    Was Mary Quant her real name?


    ------------- Yes, Mary Quant was her real name. The legendary British fashion designer who popularized the miniskirt was born Barbara Mary Quant on February 11, 1930, in London.
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  • From Phil Carmody@pc+usenet@asdf.org to rec.puzzles on Fri Jun 5 11:31:55 2026
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    David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> writes:
    On Sat, 23 May 2026 09:10:10 GMT, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:

    (Is she saying "skinny" at the end?) (not Skidding) ?
    What Philomena Cunk actually says at the end of that sentence is:
    -------- "Although in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens
    that isn't skinnier." (0:17)

    No one real said anything of any importance. I wouldn't worry about the details.

    Philomena Cunk, Diane Morgan in cringe-worthy character perfectly,
    clearly says "skidding". Is comedy not important to you - as that's
    comedy. She's taking the piss out of the fact that the Fast and Furious franchise seems to be nothing more than skidding. Is F&F so important to
    you that you think it must not be ridiculed?

    Phil
    --
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  • From Phil Carmody@pc+usenet@asdf.org to rec.puzzles on Fri Jun 5 11:36:29 2026
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    David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> writes:
    No one from Bolton is saying anything in that video. I grew up in Bolton
    and would know.

    And Diane Morgan was born in Farnworth, a mere 5km from Bolton the town,
    and definitely within Bolton the Metropolitan County, in 1975. Are you
    saying she's got her accent wrong? If so, I recommend writing her a strongly-worded letter, so that she can correct her own accent so that
    it conforms to your demands.

    Phil
    --
    We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
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  • From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Fri Jun 5 09:04:51 2026
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    On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 11:36:29 +0300, Phil Carmody wrote:

    And Diane Morgan was born in Farnworth, a mere 5km from Bolton the town,
    and definitely within Bolton the Metropolitan County, in 1975. Are you
    saying she's got her accent wrong? If so, I recommend writing her a strongly-worded letter, so that she can correct her own accent so that
    it conforms to your demands.

    Hi Phil,

    I may have been "confused" at the time of writing. I didn't recognize a Farnworth accent in the clip, which is generally pretty distinct - like
    Peter Kay's. I went to primary school in Darcy Lever a mile or so away and
    my dad worked at a timber works in Moses Gate, Farnworth, but that was a
    long time ago and the local accent may have changed since then. I was
    somewhat confused by what was being said too, but that's probably me not following programmes on TV. I suspected the clip was generated by AI, but could be quite wrong.

    If I am wrong I apologise to anyone I may have offended and certainly to
    Diane who I have heard speak with an accent reconizably from the area.
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