• A Mathematical Excursion

    From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Sat May 9 16:20:29 2026
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    This problem, with a slight rewording by me, comes from 'Mathematical Excursions', by Helen Abbot Merrill (pg. 59). I hope I haven't mangled it
    too much for it to make sense.

    The first digit of a given integer (n) is 2. If that first digit is
    removed from the front of the number and appended to the rear of the
    number, to create a new number, then the new number is exactly half the original number.

    What was the original number n?
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  • From Ilan Mayer@user4643@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.puzzles on Sat May 9 18:23:44 2026
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    David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> posted:

    This problem, with a slight rewording by me, comes from 'Mathematical Excursions', by Helen Abbot Merrill (pg. 59). I hope I haven't mangled it too much for it to make sense.

    The first digit of a given integer (n) is 2. If that first digit is
    removed from the front of the number and appended to the rear of the
    number, to create a new number, then the new number is exactly half the original number.

    What was the original number n?


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    The number can be written as 2*10^n+x, and dividing it by 2 produces a number that can be written as 10*x+2,
    Then (10*x+2)*2 = 2*10^n+x, and x = (2*10^n-4)/19. The smallest n for which x is an integer is 17, and x is 10,526,315,789,473,684.
    The number is thus 210,526,315,789,473,684.
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  • From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Sat May 9 19:54:08 2026
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    On Sat, 09 May 2026 18:23:44 GMT, Ilan Mayer wrote:

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    Very impressive!
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  • From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Sun May 10 07:42:04 2026
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    On Sat, 9 May 2026 16:20:29 -0000 (UTC), David Entwistle wrote:

    This problem, with a slight rewording by me, comes from 'Mathematical Excursions', by Helen Abbot Merrill (pg. 59). I hope I haven't mangled
    it too much for it to make sense.

    The first digit of a given integer (n) is 2. If that first digit is
    removed from the front of the number and appended to the rear of the
    number, to create a new number, then the new number is exactly half the original number.

    What was the original number n?

    I arrived at the correct answer by plodding through the digits one-by-one. Having read Ilan's much more sophisticated answer, I followed that method, successfully. Here's another similar, but somewhat easier, problem to
    practice on.

    The first digit of a number is 4. If it is shifted to the end, the new
    number is one fourth the original number.

    What was the original number?

    Mathematical Excursions is a nice book full of interesting problems and insights.
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  • From Ilan Mayer@user4643@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.puzzles on Sun May 10 14:47:44 2026
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    David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> posted:

    On Sat, 9 May 2026 16:20:29 -0000 (UTC), David Entwistle wrote:

    This problem, with a slight rewording by me, comes from 'Mathematical Excursions', by Helen Abbot Merrill (pg. 59). I hope I haven't mangled
    it too much for it to make sense.

    The first digit of a given integer (n) is 2. If that first digit is
    removed from the front of the number and appended to the rear of the number, to create a new number, then the new number is exactly half the original number.

    What was the original number n?

    I arrived at the correct answer by plodding through the digits one-by-one. Having read Ilan's much more sophisticated answer, I followed that method, successfully. Here's another similar, but somewhat easier, problem to practice on.

    The first digit of a number is 4. If it is shifted to the end, the new number is one fourth the original number.

    What was the original number?

    Mathematical Excursions is a nice book full of interesting problems and insights.


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    Using the same method as before:
    Number is 4*10^n+x
    Quarter of number is 10*x+4
    x = (4*10^n-16)/39
    Integer solution is for n=5
    Number is 410,256
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  • From Charlie Roberts@croberts@gmail.com to rec.puzzles on Mon May 11 16:36:52 2026
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    On Sun, 10 May 2026 07:42:04 -0000 (UTC), David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> wrote:

    I arrived at the correct answer by plodding through the digits one-by-one. >Having read Ilan's much more sophisticated answer, I followed that method, >successfully. Here's another similar, but somewhat easier, problem to >practice on.

    The first digit of a number is 4. If it is shifted to the end, the new >number is one fourth the original number.

    What was the original number?

    Mathematical Excursions is a nice book full of interesting problems and >insights.

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    Been off line for a while ....

    I have not heard of the book, but I first heard about such numbers
    from Pradeep Mutalik's puzzle column in The New York Times, ages
    ago.

    More at

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_number


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