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Someone on Reddit reports that English-language Livejournal is going
away. I'm relaying that to here because there are a bunch of filk
journals there that should be archived if they haven't been.

https://old.reddit.com/r/FanFiction/comments/1q3yw8c
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On 1/19/26 6:23 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:

Someone on Reddit reports that English-language Livejournal is going
away. I'm relaying that to here because there are a bunch of filk
journals there that should be archived if they haven't been.

https://old.reddit.com/r/FanFiction/comments/1q3yw8c

It all looks very speculative. I walked away from LiveJournal years ago,
when they stealthily moved their servers to Russia. Are there still any
active filkers on LJ?
--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
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Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> writes:

It all looks very speculative. I walked away from LiveJournal years
ago, when they stealthily moved their servers to Russia. Are there
still any active filkers on LJ?

I don't know, I haven't looked there in ages and I hadn't heard about
the server move. That is an eyebrow raiser.
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Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> writes:

Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> writes:

It all looks very speculative. I walked away from LiveJournal years
ago, when they stealthily moved their servers to Russia. Are there
still any active filkers on LJ?

I don't know, I haven't looked there in ages and I hadn't heard about
the server move. That is an eyebrow raiser.

Russians owned LJ since 2006, see section "Sale to SUP Media":

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiveJournal>

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Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> writes:

On 1/19/26 6:23 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:

Someone on Reddit reports that English-language Livejournal is going
away. I'm relaying that to here because there are a bunch of filk
journals there that should be archived if they haven't been.
https://old.reddit.com/r/FanFiction/comments/1q3yw8c

It all looks very speculative. I walked away from LiveJournal years
ago, when they stealthily moved their servers to Russia.

They owned LJ since 2006, and moved servers to Russia in 2016, most
likely because they didn't believe their data would be safe in US
jurisdiction.
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On 9/16/26 2:16 AM, Librarian2025 wrote:

Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> writes:

On 1/19/26 6:23 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:

Someone on Reddit reports that English-language Livejournal is going
away. I'm relaying that to here because there are a bunch of filk
journals there that should be archived if they haven't been.
https://old.reddit.com/r/FanFiction/comments/1q3yw8c

It all looks very speculative. I walked away from LiveJournal years
ago, when they stealthily moved their servers to Russia.

They owned LJ since 2006, and moved servers to Russia in 2016, most
likely because they didn't believe their data would be safe in US jurisdiction.

I assume you're being sarcastic about Russia being a haven of data safety.

In any case, you're responding to a post from January, so it doesn't
sound like a current issue.
--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
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In article <118etsj$3nban$1@dont-email.me>,
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:

On 9/16/26 2:16 AM, Librarian2025 wrote:

They owned LJ since 2006, and moved servers to Russia in 2016, most
likely because they didn't believe their data would be safe in US
jurisdiction.

I assume you're being sarcastic about Russia being a haven of data safety.

It's a haven of data safety for data the Russian government wants, and
my suspicion is that LJ data is in that cateory.

In any case, you're responding to a post from January, so it doesn't
sound like a current issue.

It's certainly not a new issue but it's still going on.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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On 9/16/26 2:12 AM, Librarian2025 wrote:

Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> writes:

Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> writes:

It all looks very speculative. I walked away from LiveJournal years
ago, when they stealthily moved their servers to Russia. Are there
still any active filkers on LJ?

I don't know, I haven't looked there in ages and I hadn't heard about
the server move. That is an eyebrow raiser.

Russians owned LJ since 2006, see section "Sale to SUP Media":

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiveJournal>

That caused some concerns, but the final break happened when LJ moved
its servers for US customers to Russia, doing it by stealth and breaking
its firm promise. We noticed it only when some alert people discovered
that the IP addresses had changed to ones based in Russia.

They certainly did it under pressure from the Russian government, which
was demanding access to private information about users from many sites,
under threat of being blocked in Russia. Some stopped accepting Russian
users.
--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
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Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> writes:

On 9/16/26 2:16 AM, Librarian2025 wrote:

Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> writes:

On 1/19/26 6:23 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:

Someone on Reddit reports that English-language Livejournal is going
away. I'm relaying that to here because there are a bunch of filk
journals there that should be archived if they haven't been.
https://old.reddit.com/r/FanFiction/comments/1q3yw8c

It all looks very speculative. I walked away from LiveJournal years
ago, when they stealthily moved their servers to Russia.

They owned LJ since 2006, and moved servers to Russia in 2016, most
likely because they didn't believe their data would be safe in US
jurisdiction.

I assume you're being sarcastic about Russia being a haven of data safety.

No, I'm not. For Russian data Russia absolutely is safe haven (if you
look at just consequences of confrontation, regardless of who is right
and who is wrong). LJ had - and maybe still have - many Russian
politicians among their users, including Dmitry Medvedev (ex-President
of Russia) and Ramzan Kadyrov (head of Chechnya). If Russian company
have such clients, how safe it is for them to keep their data in United
States?

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On 9/23/26 11:17 AM, Librarian2025 wrote:

I assume you're being sarcastic about Russia being a haven of data safety.

No, I'm not. For Russian data Russia absolutely is safe haven (if you
look at just consequences of confrontation, regardless of who is right
and who is wrong). LJ had - and maybe still have - many Russian
politicians among their users, including Dmitry Medvedev (ex-President
of Russia) and Ramzan Kadyrov (head of Chechnya). If Russian company
have such clients, how safe it is for them to keep their data in United States?

Russia has a vast surveillance system on all Internet activity in the
country.

https://stateofsurveillance.org/articles/government/russia-sorm-system/

You should learn how to use articles where they're needed. Your Russian
accent is showing.
--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
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In Message-ID:<1191h6p$1o03b$1@dont-email.me>,
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:

You should learn how to use articles where they're needed. Your Russian >accent is showing.

Good catch. I noticed the oddness, but not what the oddness was.

But it's not where they're needed; it's where they're customary.

Found on the Internet long ago: Someone called a Russian dumb for
saying "Get in car". The Russian's response was "Me? Dumb? Maybe in
America you have to say get in THE car because you are so stupid that
people might just get in random car, but in Russia we don't need to
say that. We just know because we are not stupid."
--
Arthur T.
Last one out, turn off the lights.
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On 9/23/26 8:26 PM, Arthur T. wrote:

In Message-ID:<1191h6p$1o03b$1@dont-email.me>,
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:

You should learn how to use articles where they're needed. Your Russian
accent is showing.

Good catch. I noticed the oddness, but not what the oddness was.

But it's not where they're needed; it's where they're customary.

Found on the Internet long ago: Someone called a Russian dumb for
saying "Get in car". The Russian's response was "Me? Dumb? Maybe in
America you have to say get in THE car because you are so stupid that
people might just get in random car, but in Russia we don't need to
say that. We just know because we are not stupid."

"Needed" by the grammar of the language, not by anything intrinsic.

And needed when trying not to be so obviously a Russian troll. :)
--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
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Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> writes:

On 9/23/26 11:17 AM, Librarian2025 wrote:

I assume you're being sarcastic about Russia being a haven of data safety. >> No, I'm not. For Russian data Russia absolutely is safe haven (if

you
look at just consequences of confrontation, regardless of who is right
and who is wrong). LJ had - and maybe still have - many Russian
politicians among their users, including Dmitry Medvedev (ex-President
of Russia) and Ramzan Kadyrov (head of Chechnya). If Russian company
have such clients, how safe it is for them to keep their data in United
States?

Russia has a vast surveillance system on all Internet activity in the country.

https://stateofsurveillance.org/articles/government/russia-sorm-system/

I don't understand how it's relevant to what I said. Let me repeat: "If
Russian company have such clients, how safe it is for them to keep their
data in United States?"

You should learn how to use articles where they're needed. Your
Russian accent is showing.

Are you sure it's not Chinese? Or Iranian?
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Librarian2025 <librarian2025@cock.li> wrote:

I don't understand how it's relevant to what I said. Let me repeat: "If >Russian company have such clients, how safe it is for them to keep their
data in United States?"

I believe I made a similar point. It's not about whether the Russian government is trustworthy. I wouldn't expect Russian companies to trust
our government any more than American companies would trust theirs.

It's very sad. I had great hopes for perestroika and then things went
all wrong.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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