For me, the shortest trip of this kind would be to have a sandwich in Sandwich, NH, possibly on rye bread from Rye, NH.
I don't know how far Sandwich is to you, but Sandwich in Kent is
about 140km due east of here. (I presume it is the one associated
with the Earl of Sandwich, after whom the snack is named.
Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?
Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?
A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
invited into someone's home. There doesn't seem to be so
much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
could open a thermos.
On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
invited into someone's home.-a There doesn't seem to be so
much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
could open a thermos.
Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoctionrCa
I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make
goulash with local ingredients.
San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne,
with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the
"Chili Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
While the exact origins are debated, the influence of Canary
Islanders who settled in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with them
spices and cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key part of
the story.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Canary Islander Influence:
In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to
settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential in
the city's business and political landscape.
They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of
cumin and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and
wild onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a foundational element of early chili recipes.
2. The Chili Queens:
In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a
popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from
outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging personalities and flavorful dishes.
Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often
served with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San
Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.
On 8/19/25 12:01 PM, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <1080fgi$se6$1@panix3.panix.com>, kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:
Wouldn't it make more sense to have a frankfurter in Frankfurt?
(Frankfurt is a city in Germany.-a Frankfort is the capital of
Kentucky.)
That's much farther away.-a You might as well have chili in Chile if
you're going to do that.
Not for me it isn't.
As it happened, I spent a few days in Frankfurt on my way back from
Vienna.-a-a-a Didn't have any frankfurters, though.
For me, the shortest trip of this kind would be to have a sandwich in Sandwich, NH, possibly on rye bread from Rye, NH.
On 8/21/2025 8:50 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:....
A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
invited into someone's home.-a There doesn't seem to be so
much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
could open a thermos.
Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoctionrCa
I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make
goulash with local ingredients.
San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne, with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the "Chili
Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. While the exact origins are debated, the influence of Canary Islanders who settled
in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with them spices and cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key part of the story.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Canary Islander Influence:
-a-a-a In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential in the
city's business and political landscape.
They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of cumin
and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and wild onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a foundational element of early chili recipes.
2. The Chili Queens:
-a-a-a In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from
outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging personalities and flavorful dishes.
Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often served
with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.
....
On 8/21/2025 12:04 PM, Jay Morris wrote:
On 8/21/2025 8:50 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:....
A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
invited into someone's home.-a There doesn't seem to be so
much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
could open a thermos.
Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoctionrCa
I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make
goulash with local ingredients.
San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne,
with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the
"Chili Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
While the exact origins are debated, the influence of Canary Islanders
who settled in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with them spices and
cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key part of the story.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Canary Islander Influence:
-a-a-a-a In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to
settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential in
the city's business and political landscape.
They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of cumin
and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and wild
onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a
foundational element of early chili recipes.
2. The Chili Queens:
-a-a-a-a In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a
popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from
outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging
personalities and flavorful dishes.
Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often
served with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San
Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.
....
No beef is the way I like it, but the beany variety is also popular.
I once raised a bit of a flamewar on reddit by ask "Chili: Beans, or No Beans?" in the /askAmericans subreddit.
On 8/22/25 3:42 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
On 8/21/2025 12:04 PM, Jay Morris wrote:
On 8/21/2025 8:50 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:....
A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
invited into someone's home.-a There doesn't seem to be so
much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
could open a thermos.
Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoctionrCa
I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make
goulash with local ingredients.
San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne,
with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the
"Chili Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
While the exact origins are debated, the influence of Canary
Islanders who settled in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with them
spices and cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key part of
the story.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Canary Islander Influence:
-a-a-a-a In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to
settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential in
the city's business and political landscape.
They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of
cumin and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and
wild onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a
foundational element of early chili recipes.
2. The Chili Queens:
-a-a-a-a In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a
popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from
outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging
personalities and flavorful dishes.
Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often
served with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San
Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.
....
No beef is the way I like it, but the beany variety is also popular.
I once raised a bit of a flamewar on reddit by ask "Chili: Beans, or
No Beans?" in the /askAmericans subreddit.
I go vegan, with beans and soy crumbles (Nutrela, from the Indian
grocery) to give it texture and more protein. I also make three
different kinds: green (cannellini/Great Northern beans), mole (kidney/ pinto beans), and (imitation) Texas Roadhouse (kidney) (though I suspect when I have used up my current TR blend of spices, I will retire that one).
ObSF: My mole chili recipe was modified from the one LoneStarCon II published.
On 8/22/2025 4:54 PM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
On 8/22/25 3:42 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
On 8/21/2025 12:04 PM, Jay Morris wrote:
On 8/21/2025 8:50 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:....
A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
invited into someone's home.-a There doesn't seem to be so
much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
could open a thermos.
Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoctionrCa
I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make
goulash with local ingredients.
San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne,
with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the
"Chili Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th
centuries. While the exact origins are debated, the influence of
Canary Islanders who settled in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with
them spices and cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key
part of the story.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Canary Islander Influence:
-a-a-a-a In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to
settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential
in the city's business and political landscape.
They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of
cumin and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and
wild onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a
foundational element of early chili recipes.
2. The Chili Queens:
-a-a-a-a In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a
popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from
outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging
personalities and flavorful dishes.
Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often
served with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San
Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.
....
No beef is the way I like it, but the beany variety is also popular.
I once raised a bit of a flamewar on reddit by ask "Chili: Beans, or
No Beans?" in the /askAmericans subreddit.
If you only raised a bit of a flamewar there must not have been many
Texans on it.
Jay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me> wrote:
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Canary Islander Influence: ...
Had never heard about this before. Fascinating!
For me, the shortest trip of this kind would be to have a sandwich
in Sandwich, NH, possibly on rye bread from Rye, NH.
...and here I was going to post about Sandwich, MA. There's also
Sandwiches in IL and ONT.
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