I've been using Eternal September as my Usenet provider out of sheer inertia. It's clearly dying, though, becoming more like Eternal Wait. Sometimes it takes several tries to load a message.
Eternal September relies on donations (and I send it money
occasionally), so it's probably starved for cash.-a I've looked at
various paid Usenet providers, with an eye to a low price since I don't
use Usenet all that much and never download big attachments. Pure
Usenet, a Netherlands-based service, looks the best from a pricing standpoint, and it gets decent reviews.
https://www.pureusenet.nl
I'm open to other suggestions. I connect to the Internet through
T-Mobile, which apparently has never heard of Usenet.
I've been using Eternal September as my Usenet provider out of sheer
inertia. It's clearly dying, though, becoming more like Eternal Wait. Sometimes it takes several tries to load a message.
Eternal September relies on donations (and I send it money
occasionally), so it's probably starved for cash. I've looked at
various paid Usenet providers, with an eye to a low price since I don't
use Usenet all that much and never download big attachments. Pure
Usenet, a Netherlands-based service, looks the best from a pricing standpoint, and it gets decent reviews.
https://www.pureusenet.nl
I'm open to other suggestions. I connect to the Internet through
T-Mobile, which apparently has never heard of Usenet.
I've been using Eternal September as my Usenet provider out of sheer >inertia. It's clearly dying, though, becoming more like Eternal Wait. >Sometimes it takes several tries to load a message.
Eternal September relies on donations (and I send it money
occasionally), so it's probably starved for cash. I've looked at
various paid Usenet providers, with an eye to a low price since I don't
use Usenet all that much and never download big attachments. Pure
Usenet, a Netherlands-based service, looks the best from a pricing >standpoint, and it gets decent reviews.
https://www.pureusenet.nl
I'm open to other suggestions. I connect to the Internet through
T-Mobile, which apparently has never heard of Usenet.
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Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
use Usenet all that much and never download big attachments. Pure
Usenet, a Netherlands-based service, looks the best from a pricing >standpoint, and it gets decent reviews.
https://www.pureusenet.nl
I'm open to other suggestions.
I've been using Eternal September as my Usenet provider out of sheer inertia. It's clearly dying, though, becoming more like Eternal Wait. Sometimes it takes several tries to load a message.
Eternal September relies on donations (and I send it money
occasionally), so it's probably starved for cash.-a I've looked at
various paid Usenet providers, with an eye to a low price since I don't
use Usenet all that much and never download big attachments. Pure
Usenet, a Netherlands-based service, looks the best from a pricing standpoint, and it gets decent reviews.
https://www.pureusenet.nl
I'm open to other suggestions. I connect to the Internet through
T-Mobile, which apparently has never heard of Usenet.
I've been using Eternal September as my Usenet provider out of sheer inertia. It's clearly dying, though, becoming more like Eternal Wait. Sometimes it takes several tries to load a message.
I've had no problems at all with Eternal September.
But I am using a*very* obscure reader.
I've been happy with Astraweb <https://www.astraweb.com/>. They have
block accounts. 10+ years ago I paid $25 for 180 GB. I recently had
to buy another block. But that one-time fee of $25 was all I paid
them for those 10 years. You could also go cheaper and pay only $10
for 25GB.
They have good retention, and I don't see some of the spam others do,
though some does get through their filters.
Note: You can't sign up without allowing scripting and some cookies.
On 11/7/23 11:43 AM, Arthur T. wrote:
I've been happy with Astraweb <https://www.astraweb.com/>. They have
block accounts. 10+ years ago I paid $25 for 180 GB. I recently had
to buy another block. But that one-time fee of $25 was all I paid
them for those 10 years. You could also go cheaper and pay only $10
for 25GB.
I'm afraid I don't understand block accounts. 25GB of what?
They have good retention, and I don't see some of the spam others do,
though some does get through their filters.
Note: You can't sign up without allowing scripting and some cookies.
I've always accessed Usenet through a client app, currently Thunderbird. Does that mean Astraweb allows only Web access?
On 11/7/2023 9:18 AM, Rafe Culpin wrote:
I've had no problems at all with Eternal September.
But I am using a*very*-a obscure reader.
I'm using Thunderbird.
--Lee
On 11/7/2023 12:15 PM, Gary McGath wrote:
On 11/7/23 11:43 AM, Arthur T. wrote:
I've been happy with Astraweb <https://www.astraweb.com/>. They have
block accounts. 10+ years ago I paid $25 for 180 GB. I recently had
to buy another block. But that one-time fee of $25 was all I paid
them for those 10 years. You could also go cheaper and pay only $10
for 25GB.
I'm afraid I don't understand block accounts. 25GB of what?
They have good retention, and I don't see some of the spam others do,
though some does get through their filters.
Note: You can't sign up without allowing scripting and some cookies.
I've always accessed Usenet through a client app, currently Thunderbird.
Does that mean Astraweb allows only Web access?
The block is the amount of data passed. If you do only text based groups >then, as Arthur said, 180 GB should last for a considerable time. 25 GB
a few years maybe.
You need scripting and cookies on just to sign up through a web browser.
In Message-ID:<uidvhm$14gn2$1@epsilon3.eternal-september.org>,
"Jay E. Morris" <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
The block is the amount of data passed. If you do only text based
groups then, as Arthur said, 180 GB should last for a considerable
time. 25 GB a few years maybe.
You need scripting and cookies on just to sign up through a web
browser.
Jay interpreted what I said correctly. But for just text, 25 GB is
likely to last a lifetime.
And, as my headers show, I access Usenet via Forte Agent. I shudder
at the idea of a Web interface.
Arthur T. wrote:
In Message-ID:<uidvhm$14gn2$1@epsilon3.eternal-september.org>,
"Jay E. Morris" <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
The block is the amount of data passed. If you do only text based
groups then, as Arthur said, 180 GB should last for a considerable
time. 25 GB a few years maybe.
You need scripting and cookies on just to sign up through a web
browser.
Jay interpreted what I said correctly. But for just text, 25 GB is
likely to last a lifetime.
If you are just using Usenet for text newsgroups something like a 100 GB block could even outlive the Usenet provider!
And, as my headers show, I access Usenet via Forte Agent. I shudder
at the idea of a Web interface.
The Devil's own invention!
I'm afraid I don't understand block accounts. 25GB of what?
And, as my headers show, I access Usenet via Forte Agent. I shudder
at the idea of a Web interface.
In article <5atlkidednam3dmps...@4ax.com>,I use Groups.google.com/g/rec.music.filk for this group only usenet group I still visit.
Arthur T. <art...@munged.invalid> wrote:
And, as my headers show, I access Usenet via Forte Agent. I shudderDitto.
at the idea of a Web interface.
I'm still using trn 4.0. I've found that it's installable
in Windows Subsystem for Linux. I *love* its kill file
feature, though I don't use it all that much. And it's
pure text; I defy anything short of The Blight to infect
my computer through that.
--
Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're nuts."
mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane
KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston
I'm open to other suggestions. I connect to the Internet through
T-Mobile, which apparently has never heard of Usenet.
I've been using Eternal September as my Usenet provider out of sheer inertia. It's clearly dying, though, becoming more like Eternal Wait. Sometimes it takes several tries to load a message.
Eternal September relies on donations (and I send it money
occasionally), so it's probably starved for cash.-a I've looked at
various paid Usenet providers, with an eye to a low price since I don't
use Usenet all that much and never download big attachments. Pure
Usenet, a Netherlands-based service, looks the best from a pricing standpoint, and it gets decent reviews.
I changed the
server I'm using on Eternal September to news.eternal-september.org
I've been using Eternal September as my Usenet provider out of sheer inertia. It's clearly dying, though, becoming more like Eternal Wait. Sometimes it takes several tries to load a message.
On 11/7/23 6:24 AM, Gary McGath wrote:
I've been using Eternal September as my Usenet provider out of sheer
inertia. It's clearly dying, though, becoming more like Eternal Wait.
Sometimes it takes several tries to load a message.
My search for other providers has been a nightmare. First I signed up
with Astraweb. I immediately got a message saying my account had been >cancelled. It appeared to work anyway. However, I got errors trying to
post, saying posting wasn't allowed on my server. A search indicates
that's the usual state of affairs with Astraweb. I explicitly cancelled
my account. Nonetheless, they charged my credit card for their worthless >service and my account still showed as active this morning. I cancelled >again and told them to remove the charge.
Pureusenet was no better. Again, I couldn't post. I contacted support
and was told I had to select a deeply-buried option to be able to post.
I went to the indicated page and was told I couldn't enable posting
because I didn't have a paid account, although I had signed up and given
my credit card information. I replied to the support email explaining
this problem. It's been 24 hours with no response. I cancelled the
account. So far I haven't seen a charge from Pureusenet on my credit card.
This is very disturbing. How can two providers that come with >recommendations stay in business offering a service whose restrictions
make it completely worthless?
--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
In article <uj7uag$2r66r$1@dont-email.me>,
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
Pureusenet was no better. Again, I couldn't post. I contacted support
and was told I had to select a deeply-buried option to be able to
post. I went to the indicated page and was told I couldn't enable
posting because I didn't have a paid account, although I had signed up
and given my credit card information. I replied to the support email explaining this problem. It's been 24 hours with no response. I
cancelled the account. So far I haven't seen a charge from Pureusenet
on my credit card.
This is very disturbing. How can two providers that come with recommendations stay in business offering a service whose restrictions make it completely worthless?
Mine is easy. Get a VPN subscription and
At least you can access our USenet server.
It appeared to work anyway. However, I got errors trying to post,
saying posting wasn't allowed on my server.
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> writes:
It appeared to work anyway. However, I got errors trying to post,
saying posting wasn't allowed on my server.
Lots of those providers have separate servers for reading and posting.
Maybe you needed to use a different server from them? Yeah they do
sound lame.
I think those companies' customers mostly want bulk download feeds for binaries, rather than wanting to post.
This is very disturbing. How can two providers that come with >recommendations stay in business offering a service whose restrictions
make it completely worthless?
The Doctor wrote:
In article <uj7uag$2r66r$1@dont-email.me>,
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
Pureusenet was no better. Again, I couldn't post. I contacted support
and was told I had to select a deeply-buried option to be able to
post. I went to the indicated page and was told I couldn't enable
posting because I didn't have a paid account, although I had signed up
and given my credit card information. I replied to the support email
explaining this problem. It's been 24 hours with no response. I
cancelled the account. So far I haven't seen a charge from Pureusenet
on my credit card.
This is very disturbing. How can two providers that come with
recommendations stay in business offering a service whose restrictions
make it completely worthless?
Mine is easy. Get a VPN subscription and
Doesn't everyone use a VPN these days?
It should be the first rule of using the internet.
At least you can access our USenet server.
Nah... there are better Usenet services out there. 'NetKnow IS' propagates >spam to newsgroups I frequent and the news admin doesn't seem to want to
do anything about it!
In article <nnd$7bc8ec37$42bf54b5@0aa4687090104251>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
At least you can access our USenet server.
Nah... there are better Usenet services out there. 'NetKnow IS'
propagates spam to newsgroups I frequent and the news admin doesn't
seem to want to do anything about it!
Drunk as ususal Blueshirt.
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
This is very disturbing. How can two providers that come with >>recommendations stay in business offering a service whose restrictions >>make it completely worthless?
The vast majority of Usenet users today want to download warez from binary >groups and care nothing at all about discussion groups or text. You picked >two servers that cater to them.
On 11/7/23 6:24 AM, Gary McGath wrote:
I've been using Eternal September as my Usenet provider out of sheer
inertia. It's clearly dying, though, becoming more like Eternal Wait.
Sometimes it takes several tries to load a message.
My search for other providers has been a nightmare. First I signed up
with Astraweb. I immediately got a message saying my account had been cancelled. It appeared to work anyway. However, I got errors trying to
post, saying posting wasn't allowed on my server. A search indicates
that's the usual state of affairs with Astraweb. I explicitly cancelled
my account. Nonetheless, they charged my credit card for their worthless service and my account still showed as active this morning. I cancelled again and told them to remove the charge.
Pureusenet was no better. Again, I couldn't post. I contacted support
and was told I had to select a deeply-buried option to be able to post.
I went to the indicated page and was told I couldn't enable posting
because I didn't have a paid account, although I had signed up and given
my credit card information. I replied to the support email explaining
this problem. It's been 24 hours with no response. I cancelled the
account. So far I haven't seen a charge from Pureusenet on my credit card.
This is very disturbing. How can two providers that come with recommendations stay in business offering a service whose restrictions
make it completely worthless?
In Message-ID:<uj8kb3$4s1$1@panix2.panix.com>,
kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
This is very disturbing. How can two providers that come with
recommendations stay in business offering a service whose restrictions
make it completely worthless?
The vast majority of Usenet users today want to download warez from binary >> groups and care nothing at all about discussion groups or text. You picked >> two servers that cater to them.
I don't know why he had a problem with Astraweb, but, as you can see
from my headers, I'm posting from there. I've been doing so for over
10 years.
I won't suggest he try again. But whatever the problem was, I don't
think it's as simple as you're suggesting.
On 11/7/23 6:24 AM, Gary McGath wrote:
I've been using Eternal September as my Usenet provider out of sheer
inertia. It's clearly dying, though, becoming more like Eternal Wait.
Sometimes it takes several tries to load a message.
My search for other providers has been a nightmare. First I signed up
with Astraweb. I immediately got a message saying my account had been cancelled. It appeared to work anyway. However, I got errors trying to
post, saying posting wasn't allowed on my server. A search indicates
that's the usual state of affairs with Astraweb. I explicitly cancelled
my account. Nonetheless, they charged my credit card for their worthless service and my account still showed as active this morning. I cancelled again and told them to remove the charge.
Pureusenet was no better. Again, I couldn't post. I contacted support
and was told I had to select a deeply-buried option to be able to post.
I went to the indicated page and was told I couldn't enable posting
because I didn't have a paid account, although I had signed up and given
my credit card information. I replied to the support email explaining
this problem. It's been 24 hours with no response. I cancelled the
account. So far I haven't seen a charge from Pureusenet on my credit card.
This is very disturbing. How can two providers that come with recommendations stay in business offering a service whose restrictions
make it completely worthless?
Eternal September is working for me (now that I got reconnected).
On the other hand, recent versions of Thunderbird have been shredding entirely too much of my mail, including entangling messages and headers.
I'm seeing that behavior in Lee's response in this thread. So if you're using T'bird, it may be time to give up on it.
I haven't quite pulled the plug on that yet. Close, though.
Eternal September is working for me (now that I got reconnected).
On the other hand, recent versions of Thunderbird have been shredding entirely too much of my mail, including entangling messages and headers. I'm seeing that behavior in Lee's response in this thread. So if you're using T'bird, it may be time to give up on it.
I haven't quite pulled the plug on that yet. Close, though.
My search hasn't been going well, but just this morning I changed the
server I'm using on Eternal September to news.eternal-september.org ,
and it's working much better. I hadn't updated the server name in years,
so I was probably accessing some old machine of theirs which they'd
nearly forgotten they still have.
On Sat, 3 Feb 2024, Joe Kesselman wrote:
Eternal September is working for me (now that I got reconnected).I recommend alpine for email and news. For only news tin looks quite
On the other hand, recent versions of Thunderbird have been shredding
entirely too much of my mail, including entangling messages and
headers. I'm seeing that behavior in Lee's response in this thread. So
if you're using T'bird, it may be time to give up on it.
I haven't quite pulled the plug on that yet. Close, though.
alright.
If you read this it's working
on Windows 10.
on Windows 10.... Used to use Google Groups but alas they Discontinued >Usenet.
On Sat, 3 Feb 2024, Joe Kesselman wrote:
Eternal September is working for me (now that I got reconnected).I recommend alpine for email and news. For only news tin looks quite
On the other hand, recent versions of Thunderbird have been shredding
entirely too much of my mail, including entangling messages and
headers. I'm seeing that behavior in Lee's response in this thread. So
if you're using T'bird, it may be time to give up on it.
I haven't quite pulled the plug on that yet. Close, though.
alright.
I am now using the PAN usenet news reader.. If you read this it's working
on Windows 10.... Used to use Google Groups but alas they Discontinued >Usenet.
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On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 18:50:55 -0000 (UTC), John Davis <wa8yxm@arrl.net>
wrote:
If you read this it's working
on Windows 10.
It seems to be working.
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Tim Merrigan
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In article <ur5gmf$3adi4$1@dont-email.me>, John Davis <wa8yxm@arrl.net> wrote:
I am now using the PAN usenet news reader.. If you read this it's working >>on Windows 10.... Used to use Google Groups but alas they Discontinued >>Usenet.
Looks just fine. Notice how much less spam there is!
--scott
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