• Hamburg Symphonies by Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach

    From Gerard@cbc111@gmail.com to rec.music.classical on Sat Jul 20 23:48:35 2024
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    Hamburg Symphonies by Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach

    These are symphonies for strings only. Delicious music to play at hall
    volume on a hot summerday with all windows open ;-)
    In 1997 The Akademie f|+r alte Musik Berlin recorded 2 (out of 6) of
    these Hamburg Sinfonien Wq.182.
    Now - in 2023 actually - they made a recording of the 4 remaining
    symphonies (and 3 other symphonies: Wq174, 176 and 177), 26 years later.
    And it is splendid! The music is splendid, the performances are, the
    recorded sound is,
    A fine alternative for the favourite recording by Caf|- Zimmermann on
    Alpha, who recorded only 4 of these 6 symphonies, in 2005; and there is
    still no sign of a recording by them of the 2 missing symphonies. Why
    didn't they make a recording of all six symphonies together? They fit
    easily on one disc.

    Other alternatives are:
    - Gli Incogniti, with Amandine Beyer (all 6 on harmonia mundi); a real alternative;
    - Ensemble Resonanz with Riccardo Minasi (all 6); unlike the other here mentioned recordings no period instruments are used, and that makes a difference, but it is HIP and a terrific performance anyway; also real alternative;
    - Orchestra of the Eighteenth Century (all 6) - but this is in
    disappointing, not sparkling sound; too much reverberation;
    - and there are some more recordings (on Naxos and on H|nnssler) I don't
    know at all.

    Even so it would be nice to have a recording by Julien Chauvin with his Concert de la Loge.

    IIRC Hurwitz has made a video about these works and a few recordings he
    liked; while not knowing the recordings by Caf|- Zimmermann, Gli
    Incogniti, the Orchestra of the Eighteenth Century, and the Akademie f|+r
    alte Musik Berlin, and not mentioning Minasi. And saying that "the HIP recordings" of these symphonies are ALL bad. But he only knew such
    recordings by Hogwood and Pinnock.
    I had Pinnock's recording on LP; I don't remember how it was. Hogwood is
    too dull for this music indeed.
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  • From herst@herst@online.nl (Herman) to rec.music.classical on Sun Jul 21 09:09:48 2024
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    Carl Ph Em. used to be more famous than his dad J.S.B.

    I like his solo keyboard works a lot.
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  • From Gerard@cbc111@gmail.com to rec.music.classical on Sun Jul 21 13:28:29 2024
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    Op 2024-07-21 om 11:09 schreef Herman:
    Carl Ph Em. used to be more famous than his dad J.S.B.

    I like his solo keyboard works a lot.

    Are there recordings you really like very much/the most? Recommendations
    as it were.
    Maybe Hamelin? Or is harpsichord to be preferred?
    Once I had some works performed by Leonhardt and van Asperen on LP. I
    don't remember anything of it.
    BTW the first time I heard some music by C.P.E. Bach was on a LP with a
    cello concerto and a flute concerto, conducted by ... Piere Boulez.


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  • From herst@herst@online.nl (Herman) to rec.music.classical on Sun Jul 21 13:06:49 2024
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    "Are there recordings you really like very much/the most?
    Recommendations
    as it were.
    Maybe Hamelin? Or is harpsichord to be preferred?"

    I was just talking about music making in the home. So... harpsichord.

    Back in the day I used to have a couple of C. Ph. Em. LPs, on small
    labels, often on american fortepiano's and the like. This is in the era
    when there was no HIP whatsoever, according to Hurwitzovich, haha.
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