• Trumpeter, oboist sue NY Philharmonic for being forced out over horn player's rape claim

    From Me Phew@mephew@splcenter.org to alt.atheism, nyc.politics, rec.music.classical, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns on Thu May 2 07:08:36 2024
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    Two members of the New York Philharmonic dumped for the second time over a 14-year-old rape allegation want the countryAs most prestigious orchestra
    and their union to face the music.

    The orchestraAs associate principal trumpet, Matthew Muckey, and the
    principal oboist, Liang Wang, are each suing the Philharmonic and the musiciansA union Local 802 after being ousted for the second time in four years.

    They had been investigated and lost their jobs in 2018, during the MeToo movement, but got their seats in the orchestra back in 2020 after their
    union took up their cause and won a binding arbitration.

    But in April they were told they would not be playing indefinitely when
    the alleged victim spoke in detail to New York Magazine and the orchestra announced a fresh investigation into the orchestraAs ocultureo by an
    outside attorney.

    Now Muckey, 39, and Wang, 44, have for breach of contract and are asking
    for their jobs back and unspecified damages, according to federal lawsuits filed Wednesday in the Southern District of New York.

    In the article Cara Kizer, 44, a former horn player with the Philharmonic, detail her allegation that the pair drugged and raped her in their rented condo in Vail, Colorado, during the 2010 Bravo! Vail Valley music
    festival.

    Kizer reported the alleged rape to Vail police but the district attorney ultimately decided there was insufficient evidence to press charges.

    The alleged attack was an open secret in the world of classical music but
    was not made public until the height of the MeToo movement in 2018 when,
    under pressure from its members, the Philharmonic suspended Muckey and
    Wang and commissioned a former judge to investigate.

    The probe resulted in Muckey and Wang being dismissed but their union,
    Local 802 of the American Federation of Musicians, contested their
    firings.

    An independent arbitrator found they had been removed without cause and
    the Philharmonic had to reinstate them in 2020.

    oWe are profoundly disappointed by the arbitratorAs decision,o the Philharmonic said in a statement at the time, adding owe will, as we must, abide by the arbitratorAs ruling.o

    But the tables have turned on Muckey and Wang once again by being removed
    from the orchestraAs line-up.

    This time they are also suing their union, which is no longer supporting
    them and has called for a change in the orchestraAs oculture.o

    oThe matter has been investigated and put to bed and it is time for it to end,o Steven Hyman, MuckeyAs attorney told The Post.

    oThe fact is the Philharmonic has acted inappropriately and the union in
    some ways even worse. Matt should be back working at the Philharmonic
    again.

    oItAs unfortunate if the donors and trustees find it uncomfortable but
    thatAs what the judicial system has determined.o

    WangAs attorney, Alan Lewis, said, oLocal 802 has not stood up for its
    loyal member, Liang Wang, even when he has been subject to mistreatment
    from his employer u without being accused of anything.o

    The Philharmonic declined to comment but shared an email sent from CEO
    Gary Ginstling to its members which announced the new investigation and
    Muckey and WangAs suspension owhile we work through this process.o

    oNothing is more important than the culture of our orchestra and the
    safety of our musicians and staff, and it is only through this process
    that we will build the kind of vibrant and inclusive culture we all want,o Ginstling wrote.

    The Post has reached out to Local 802 for comment.

    Kizer did not return a call from The Post but told New York Magazine that after their concert on July 24, 2010, she had gone to Muckey and WangAs
    condo after learning that her husband was going to be delayed in arriving
    in Vail.

    Kizer said Wang brought her a glass of red wine after the two tried to get
    her to join them in the hot tub u and doesnAt remember anything after
    that.

    Kizer told the magazine that she woke up naked and sick in MuckeyAs bed
    and saw vomit stains around the bed.

    Muckey later told Vail cops that the two had had consensual sex.

    The local DA did not pursue charges.

    Kizer, the second woman ever hired for the orchestraAs brass, had been on probation and left in 2012 with a six-figure settlement, according to New
    York magazine.

    Amanda Stewart, the first orchestra member to see her after the alleged
    rape became one of her staunchest supporters and is now her romantic
    partners after KizerAs divorce.

    oThe Philharmonic is so fued right now,o a classical musician who knows
    some of those involved told The Post.

    oTo win a seat in the New York Philharmonic is like winning a gold medal
    at the Olympics. If youAre Muckey and Wang you donAt want to give that up.

    oBut if the Philharmonic didnAt suspend them again now, itAs clear they
    would be facing massive blowback from donors and board members.o

    Jack DiPasquale
    3 hours ago

    Me too movement is a farce and a joke. Not a word from them since Biden
    and the Democrats let boys and men infiltrate girls and women's locker
    rooms. Letting boys and men take awards and scholarships from real girls
    and women. Me too movement has no interest in protecting real girls and
    women privacy and their right to equal treatment.

    Lester Gruber
    2 hours ago

    July 20 1969 : John F Kennedy put a man on the moon

    Sept 18 2016 : Barak Obama puts a man in a women's restroom

    Feb 10 2021 : Joe Biden puts a boy on a girls swim team

    We sure have come far under democrats leadership !!

    Lee ????
    1 hour ago

    Me too movement doesn't even seem to care about all the child actors both
    boys and girls being sexually assaulted in the industry. They were always
    one big lie...just like B L M

    E G
    2 hours ago

    Ok. This is how the game works: 1. If you're a woman who makes spurious
    rape claims, society loves and believes you. 2. If you're a woman who just
    got your teeth kicked in at an athletic competition by a man claiming to
    be a woman, you're on your own. Are we clear?

    https://nypost.com/2024/05/01/us-news/musicians-suspended-after-rape- claims-sue-ny-philharmonic/

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  • From herst@herst@online.nl (Herman) to alt.atheism, nyc.politics, rec.music.classical, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns on Thu Jun 27 08:19:48 2024
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    'Two members of the New York Philharmonic dumped for the second time
    over a
    14-year-old rape allegation want the countryN++s most prestigious
    orchestra
    and their union to face the music.'

    I'm not sure the NYPO is 'the country's most prestigious orchestra'.
    Never been, and certainly not now.
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