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On 25/06/2025 9:48 am, Geoff wrote:
On 24/06/2025 11:39 pm, Norbert wrote:
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In one of the verses, McCartney appears to start with "Oh, Johnnie."
Anyone else hear this?
As hard as I try, I just cannot hear that. What verse/time ?
Agree about the 'target' of the song though. As, in the other direction, must have been 'Jealous Guy, despite various denials .
Posted by a 'Ron' on Quora.
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"Behind the Beat": A Behavioral Study of the Beatles Mar 28
For rCyAbbey Road' fansrCa (and John Lennon fans in particular).
Based on a lot of research into Lennon's development from adolescence to 1980rCoincluding his reflective commentary, archival interviews, and
critical discussions about The BeatlesrCowe can derive a nuanced
understanding of his psychological and interpersonal persona, even
without his verbatim statements on specific compositions.
Never mentioned, but according to George, there was a feeling that the rCyAbbey RoadrCO sessions would be the grouprCOs last. The "medley" is comprised of bits of songs Paul and John hadnrCOt used elsewhere. During recording, it was dubbed "The Long One" when Paul and George Martin
blended the suite.
John opposed this format, preferring a return to album formats like
rCySgt. Pepper, a possible reason John was sour on side two.
Lennon appreciated the songs on side one for their completeness,
enjoying the standalone nature of rCyHere Comes the SunrCO and rCyBecause.rCO He
reportedly dismissed the medley as "junk... just bits of songs thrown together" (by the McCartney/Martin collaboration). Many things could
have come together (no pun intended) to create a rCLfeelrCY for rCLAbbey Road,rCY and JohnrCOs feelings towards the album mightrCOve soured.
He called side two a rCLproduction gimmick.rCY ItrCOs possible, too, that John felt his talents werenrCOt represented well on the medley. For instance,
John liked his rCLPolythene PamrCY tune, but felt it was lost in that
medley. The same is true for rCLHere Comes The Sun King.rCY
The McCartney/Martin collaboration for the medley mightrCOve made John
feel he was being replaced. Not out of the question is a feeling of
jealousy, John and Paul
John was, in part, quick to trash the medley because Paul and George
Martin created the suite. I believe John was so self-critical and
insecure (yet convinced of his genius), herCOd preemptively denigrate his songwriting, anticipating and justifying McCartney's perceived superiority.
rCyCome TogetherrCO
JOHN: rCLItrCOs gobbledygook rCo rCyCome TogetherrCO was an expression that Tim
Leary had come up with for his attempt at being president or whatever he wanted to be, and he asked me to write a campaign song. I tried and I
tried, but I couldnrCOt come up with one. But I came up with this, rCyCome Together,rCO which wouldrCOve been no good to himrCo you couldnrCOt have a campaign song like that, right? Leary attacked me years later, saying I
ripped him off. I didnrCOt rip him off. ItrCOs just that it turned into rCyCome Together.rCO What am I going to do, give it to him? It was a funky record rCo itrCOs one of my favorite Beatle tracks, or, one of my favorite Lennon tracks, letrCOs say that. ItrCOs funky, itrCOs bluesy, and IrCOm singing
it pretty well. I like the sound of the record. You can dance to it.
IrCOll buy it! (laughs).rCY
rCySomethingrCO
JOHN: rCLI think thatrCOs about the best track on the album, actually.rCY
rCyMaxwellrCOs Silver Hammer' (They all hated it, Paul loved it.)
JOHN: rCLI hated it. All I remember is the track rCo he made us do it a hundred million times. He did everything to make it into a single and it
never was and it never couldrCOve been. But [Paul] put guitar licks on it
and he had somebody hitting iron pieces and we spent more money on that
song than any of them in the whole album.rCY
rCyOh! DarlingrCO
JOHN: rCLOh! DarlingrCO was a great one of PaulrCOs that he didnrCOt sing too well. I always thought I could have done it better rCo it was more my
style than his. He wrote it, so what the hell, herCOs going to sing it.rCY
rCyI Want You (SherCOs So Heavy)rCO
JOHN: rCLSimplicity is evident in rCyShe So Heavy.rCOrCY A reviewer wrote: rCyHe
seems to have lost his talent for lyrics, itrCOs so simple and boring.rCO John, rCLWhen it gets down to itrCo when yourCOre drowning, you donrCOt say rCyI
would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to
notice me drowning and come and help me,rCO you just scream.rCY
rCyHere Comes The SunrCO
JOHN: rCLIt reminds me of Buddy Holly, in a way. This song is just the way herCOs progressing, you know. HerCOs writing all kinds of songs and once the door opens, the floodgates open.rCY
rCyBecauserCO
JOHN: (songwriter): rCLI was lying on the sofa in our house, listening to
Yoko play BeethovenrCOs rCyMoonlight SonatarCO on the piano. Suddenly, I said, rCyCan you play those chords backward?rCO She did, and I wrote rCyBecauserCO around them. The song sounds like rCyMoonlight Sonata,rCO too. The lyrics
are clear, no bullshit, no imagery, no obscure references.rCY
rCyYou Never Give Me Your MoneyrCO
JOHN: rCLThatrCOs Paul. Well, thatrCOs not a song, you know. Abbey Road was really unfinished songs all stuck together. Everybody praises the album
so much, but none of the songs had anything to do with each other, no
thread at all, only the fact that we stuck them together.rCY
rCySun KingrCO
JOHN: (songwriter): rCLThatrCOs a piece of garbage I had around. We just started joking, you know, singing `quando para mucho.-| So we just made
uprCa Paul knew a few Spanish words from school, you know. So we just
strung any Spanish words that sounded vaguely like something. And of
course we got `chicka ferdy-| in. That-|s a Liverpool expression. Just
like sort ofrCo it doesn-|t mean anything to me but (childish taunting) `na-na, na-na-na!-| `Cake and eat it-| is another nice line too, because
they have that in SpanishrCo rCyQuerCO or something can eat it. One we missedrCo
we could have had rCypara noya,rCO but we forgot all about it.rCY
rCyMean Mr. MustardrCO
JOHN: rCLIn rCyMean Mr MustardrCO I said rCyhis sister PamrCO rCo originally it was
rCyhis sister ShirleyrCO in the lyric. I changed it to Pam to make it sound like it had something to do with it [rCyPolythene PamrCO]. They are only finished bits of crap that I wrote in India.rCY
rCyPolythene PamrCO
JOHN: (songwriter): rCLThat was me, remembering a little event with a
woman in Jersey, and a man who was EnglandrCOs answer to Allen Ginsberg,
who gave us our first exposurerCa I met him when we were on tour and he
took me back to his apartment, and I had a girl and he had one he wanted
me to meet. He said she dressed up in polythene, which she did. She
didnrCOt wear jackboots, and kilts, I just sort of elaborated. Perverted
sex in a polythene bagrCo Just looking for something to write about.rCY
rCyShe Came In Through the Bathroom WindowrCO
JOHN: rCLHe wrote that when we were in New York announcing Apple and we
first met Linda. Maybe sherCOs the one that came in the window.rCY
rCyGolden SlumbersrCO
JOHN: rCLThatrCOs Paul, apparently from a poem he found in a book, some eighteenth-century book where he just changed the words here and there.
Paul layered the strings on after we finished most of the basic track. I personally canrCOt be bothered with strings and things, you know. I like
to do it with the group or with electronics. And especially going
through that hassle with musicians and all that bit, you know, itrCOs such
a drag trying to get them together. But Paul digs that, so thatrCOs his
scene. It was up to him where he went with violins and what he did with
them. And I think he just wanted a straight kind of backing, you know.
Nothing freaky.rCY
rCyCarry That WeightrCO
JOHN: rCLThatrCOs Paul. Apparently, he was under strain at that period. HerCOs singing about all of us.rCY
rCyThe EndrCO
JOHN: rCLThatrCOs Paul again, the unfinished song, right? WerCOre on Abbey Road. Just a piece at the end. He had a line in it [sings] rCyAnd in the
end, the love you get is equal to the love you give [sic],rCO which is a
very cosmic, philosophical line. Which again proves that if he wants to,
he can think.rCY
rCyHer MajestyrCO
JOHN: rCLWe always have tons of bits and pieces lying around. IrCOve got
stuff I wrote around Pepper, because you lose interest after yourCOve had
it for years. It was a good way of getting rid of bits of songs. In
fact, George and Ringo wrote bits of itrCa literally in between bits and breaks. Paul would say, rCyWerCOve got twelve bars hererCo fill it in,rCO and werCOd fill it in on the spot. As far as werCOre concerned, this album is
more rCyBeatleyrCO than the double (White) album.rCY
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geoff
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