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The world ended in the nineteen-sixties. Or rather, one world ended in
the nineteen-sixties and gave way to another, a transition personified
by no human beings more clearly than the Beatles. "They are lightning
rods for so much that makes the sixties a revolutionary decade," says
The Rest Is History podcast co-host Tom Holland in the video above. "In
all kinds of ways, in the twenty-first century, we're living in the
aftermath of what happened in the sixties, rather like people in the
sixteenth century were living in the aftermath of what happened in the fifteen-twenties." Many of the show's regular listeners will grasp that analogy immediately, though perhaps fewer of those who've tuned in to
this especially popular episode, in which Holland recounts the complete history of the Beatles with Conan O'Brien.

O'Brien has never made a secret of his Beatles obsession, but here he demonstrates it definitively by supplying most of the details of the
band's story himself. (That goes even for relatively obscure ones: he mentions, for example,the score Paul McCartney composed for the film
The Family Way, featured earlier this year on Open Culture.) He also
manages to win the trivia contest against Holland at Abbey Road Studios
in the video just above, but then, he'd been studying in one sense or
another for quite some time. A decade ago, he held his own in
conversation with Mark Lewisohn, the first volume of whose painstaking three-part Beatles biography comes to nearly a thousand pages in the
abridged edition. That was on his YouTube interview series Serious Jibber-Jabber, the predecessor to his current podcast Conan O'Brien
Needs a Friend.

Holland and his co-host Dominic Sandbrook appeared on Conan O'Brien
Needs a Friend last fall. They may have seemed an odd choice in a guest
roster consisting mostly of comedians, actors, and musicians, but
O'Brien himself has declared The Rest Is History "the best podcast in
the world," and their shows' fan bases turn out not to be mutually
exclusive. That wide-ranging conversation went stimulatingly enough to
inspire a completion of the crossover just a few months thereafter,
when Holland brought O'Brien to Abbey Road for an hour and a half of
nothing but talk about the historical significance of the Beatles, whom O'Brien declares "a complete break from what happened before."
(Sandbrook, the rare non-appreciator of the Fab Four, absented himself
from the discussion.)

O'Brien praises books like Lewisohn's, as well as Ian Leslie's more
recent John & Paul: A Love Story in Songs, but his understanding of the
group as a historical phenomenon suggests that he's also read the work
of critic Ian MacDonald. After Revolver, "it seemed to Western youth
that The Beatles knew - that they had the key to current events and
were somehow orchestrating them through their records." So MacDonald
writes in his book Revolution in the Head: The Beatles' Records and the Sixties, whose title refers to "the true revolution of the Sixties": an unconscious mental adaptation to the passage from a local reality of "consensus, hierarchy, and fixed values" to a global one of
individualism, sensationalism, and "jealously leveled standards." The
Beatles didn't cause those changes, as they themselves well understood.
But they accepted the roles of its avatars, and more than 60 years
after the rise of Beatlemania, we still live in the world they
represented.

https://www.openculture.com/2026/08/the-complete-history-of-the-beatles-as-told-by-conan-obrien.html
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