• Getting ready to start seedlings?

    From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.gardens.edible on Tue Feb 25 19:27:19 2025
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    I'm looking over my goodies now.

    Mostly planning bell peppers in several colors plus cubanelles and
    shishitos. Tomatoes but I'll use store seedlings there. Not really
    decided on the rest.
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  • From Snag@Snag_one@msn.com to rec.gardens.edible on Tue Feb 25 16:02:46 2025
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    On 2/25/2025 1:27 PM, Carol wrote:
    I'm looking over my goodies now.

    Mostly planning bell peppers in several colors plus cubanelles and
    shishitos. Tomatoes but I'll use store seedlings there. Not really
    decided on the rest.


    I've got seed potatoes and bulb onion sets waiting for the ground to
    thaw ... a week ago we were at single digit temps . I'll also be growing
    bell peppers and trying again for some salad stuff . Other than tomatoes that's probably it except for the berries (straw/blue/black) .
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  • From Nyssa@Nyssa@logicalinsight.net to rec.gardens.edible on Wed Feb 26 10:03:40 2025
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    Snag wrote:

    On 2/25/2025 1:27 PM, Carol wrote:
    I'm looking over my goodies now.

    Mostly planning bell peppers in several colors plus
    cubanelles and
    shishitos. Tomatoes but I'll use store seedlings there.
    Not really decided on the rest.


    I've got seed potatoes and bulb onion sets waiting for
    the ground to
    thaw ... a week ago we were at single digit temps . I'll
    also be growing bell peppers and trying again for some
    salad stuff . Other than tomatoes that's probably it
    except for the berries (straw/blue/black) .

    Started several varieties of lettuce, onions, shallots, plus
    sweet marjoram ~three weeks ago. I've got tons of seedlings
    up that need to be transplanted into larger cell packs or
    pots already. The only thing not yet up is the parsley which
    is always a slow-to-grow seed.

    In another couple of weeks the warm weather crops will be
    started under the plant lights: tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers,
    etc.

    So there are signs of spring, if only under the plant light
    on my kitchen counter.

    Nyssa, who has really over-planted those lettuce seeds and
    needs to thin 'em out

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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.gardens.edible on Wed Feb 26 20:36:00 2025
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    Snag wrote:

    On 2/25/2025 1:27 PM, Carol wrote:
    I'm looking over my goodies now.

    Mostly planning bell peppers in several colors plus cubanelles and shishitos. Tomatoes but I'll use store seedlings there. Not really decided on the rest.


    I've got seed potatoes and bulb onion sets waiting for the ground to
    thaw ... a week ago we were at single digit temps . I'll also be
    growing bell peppers and trying again for some salad stuff . Other
    than tomatoes that's probably it except for the berries
    (straw/blue/black) .

    I'm hedging my bets this year and starting a little later. I'm also
    going smaller numbers on the seedlings. I'm going to get rid of the
    old pots as too small and too stiff to get the seedlings out without significant damage.

    So now, soft silicon pots at 3.5in across, 3.5 deep. Drainage wholes
    and had stuff around to make the trays.

    All my berries are on trees (cherries in 3 types). That and Apples in
    2 types. Onions stay in the ground year round and once obvious
    overgrown, replaced from store bunches (use the tops but leave a little
    green and tuck in container raised long pots. They regrow well for 3
    years.
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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.gardens.edible on Wed Feb 26 22:28:55 2025
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    Nyssa wrote:

    Snag wrote:

    On 2/25/2025 1:27 PM, Carol wrote:
    I'm looking over my goodies now.

    Mostly planning bell peppers in several colors plus
    cubanelles and
    shishitos. Tomatoes but I'll use store seedlings there.
    Not really decided on the rest.


    I've got seed potatoes and bulb onion sets waiting for
    the ground to
    thaw ... a week ago we were at single digit temps . I'll
    also be growing bell peppers and trying again for some
    salad stuff . Other than tomatoes that's probably it
    except for the berries (straw/blue/black) .

    Started several varieties of lettuce, onions, shallots, plus
    sweet marjoram ~three weeks ago. I've got tons of seedlings
    up that need to be transplanted into larger cell packs or
    pots already. The only thing not yet up is the parsley which
    is always a slow-to-grow seed.

    In another couple of weeks the warm weather crops will be
    started under the plant lights: tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers,
    etc.

    So there are signs of spring, if only under the plant light
    on my kitchen counter.

    Nyssa, who has really over-planted those lettuce seeds and
    needs to thin 'em out

    I don't bother to starter lettuce. It likes me (grin). I just spread
    the seeds outside in the container garden, pat it on the head, and it
    takes off.

    I figured how to get it laid out in 2 rooms. I have 2 grow lights.
    One goes inside an old entertainment unit for old style tube TVs (last
    used for a 60G fish tank). Grow light clips on and 2 arms will be set
    down to hit it. Interior to AC/Heat so no need for plant heaters. The
    sunroom gets the Floor unit with 4 arms and plant heaters once I setup
    (room not heated in winter, only early spring when it's pretty much
    50's and the heater can keep up with it.

    I think if I concentrate on a smaller set, it will go better.
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  • From fos@fos@sdf.org to rec.gardens.edible on Thu Feb 27 11:43:14 2025
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    On 2025-02-25, Carol <cshenk@virginia-beach.com> wrote:
    I'm looking over my goodies now.

    Mostly planning bell peppers in several colors plus cubanelles and
    shishitos. Tomatoes but I'll use store seedlings there. Not really
    decided on the rest.

    this weekend i'll plant onion seeds indoors under grow lights.
    is too early to start seeds for anything else we grow. i didn't
    get my garlic planted in the fall. soon as the soil is workable
    even if it is partly frozen, that will be the first thing planted
    outside this year.
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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.gardens.edible on Thu Feb 27 20:54:25 2025
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    fos@sdf.org wrote:

    On 2025-02-25, Carol <cshenk@virginia-beach.com> wrote:
    I'm looking over my goodies now.

    Mostly planning bell peppers in several colors plus cubanelles and shishitos. Tomatoes but I'll use store seedlings there. Not really decided on the rest.

    this weekend i'll plant onion seeds indoors under grow lights.
    is too early to start seeds for anything else we grow. i didn't
    get my garlic planted in the fall. soon as the soil is workable
    even if it is partly frozen, that will be the first thing planted
    outside this year.

    Today I was able to open the sunroom. It's been too cold mostly until
    today.
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  • From Snag@Snag_one@msn.com to rec.gardens.edible on Thu Feb 27 15:59:40 2025
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    On 2/27/2025 2:54 PM, Carol wrote:
    fos@sdf.org wrote:

    On 2025-02-25, Carol <cshenk@virginia-beach.com> wrote:
    I'm looking over my goodies now.

    Mostly planning bell peppers in several colors plus cubanelles and
    shishitos. Tomatoes but I'll use store seedlings there. Not really
    decided on the rest.

    this weekend i'll plant onion seeds indoors under grow lights.
    is too early to start seeds for anything else we grow. i didn't
    get my garlic planted in the fall. soon as the soil is workable
    even if it is partly frozen, that will be the first thing planted
    outside this year.

    Today I was able to open the sunroom. It's been too cold mostly until
    today.


    This morning I planted 90 onions ... the area I planted them is
    covered by a black woven weed barrier that so the soil is warmer than
    bare dirt . I'm going to wait another week or 2 to plant the taters
    since there's still a chance of a freeze here .
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  • From fos@fos@sdf.org to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Feb 28 11:53:27 2025
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    On 2025-02-27, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
    On 2/27/2025 2:54 PM, Carol wrote:
    fos@sdf.org wrote:

    On 2025-02-25, Carol <cshenk@virginia-beach.com> wrote:
    I'm looking over my goodies now.

    Mostly planning bell peppers in several colors plus cubanelles and
    shishitos. Tomatoes but I'll use store seedlings there. Not really
    decided on the rest.

    this weekend i'll plant onion seeds indoors under grow lights.
    is too early to start seeds for anything else we grow. i didn't
    get my garlic planted in the fall. soon as the soil is workable
    even if it is partly frozen, that will be the first thing planted
    outside this year.

    Today I was able to open the sunroom. It's been too cold mostly until
    today.

    This morning I planted 90 onions ... the area I planted them is
    covered by a black woven weed barrier that so the soil is warmer than
    bare dirt . I'm going to wait another week or 2 to plant the taters
    since there's still a chance of a freeze here .

    i am in western New York. grow zone 5. my raised beds are
    covered with a 4 inch thick sheet of ice and a foot of snow on
    top of that. nothing is getting planted in them just yet. :)
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Feb 28 11:21:17 2025
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    fos@sdf.org wrote:
    ...
    i am in western New York. grow zone 5. my raised beds are
    covered with a 4 inch thick sheet of ice and a foot of snow on
    top of that. nothing is getting planted in them just yet. :)

    it's a bit too cold yet to be planting outside and
    i don't do much inside planting either since we don't
    have much room. the local greenhouse does a good job
    for us so it works out.

    busy for me lately getting ready for a seed swap and
    going through my collection and deciding what projects
    i'll keep with and those i will let go.


    songbird
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  • From Joy Beeson@jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Feb 28 17:03:13 2025
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    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:27:19 -0000 (UTC), "Carol"
    <cshenk@virginia-beach.com> wrote:

    I'm looking over my goodies now.

    Mostly planning bell peppers in several colors plus cubanelles and
    shishitos. Tomatoes but I'll use store seedlings there. Not really
    decided on the rest.

    Thursday, 27 February 2025

    I poked the garden with a dandelion digger today, and it
    went down a good two inches. Two more, and I can harvest
    winter onions. It won't be in February this year, but it's
    going to be really early in March.

    I didn't harvest onions on New Year's Day because I had some
    in the fridge. The garden has been socked in ever since,
    but harvesting ten months of the year ain't bad.

    Friday, 28 February 2025

    *Really* early in March -- I dug three scallions just before
    supper. The ground hadn't thawed two more inches, but there
    was only a thin shell of frozen earth above the frost line.

    Since winter onions are strong, three will be a three-day
    supply for two people. (He likes the white end, I like the
    green end.)
    --
    Joy Beeson
    joy beeson at centurylink dot net
    http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Feb 28 22:45:33 2025
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    fos@sdf.org wrote:

    On 2025-02-27, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
    On 2/27/2025 2:54 PM, Carol wrote:
    fos@sdf.org wrote:

    On 2025-02-25, Carol <cshenk@virginia-beach.com> wrote:
    I'm looking over my goodies now.

    Mostly planning bell peppers in several colors plus cubanelles
    and >>>> shishitos. Tomatoes but I'll use store seedlings there.
    Not really >>>> decided on the rest.

    this weekend i'll plant onion seeds indoors under grow lights.
    is too early to start seeds for anything else we grow. i didn't
    get my garlic planted in the fall. soon as the soil is workable
    even if it is partly frozen, that will be the first thing planted
    outside this year.

    Today I was able to open the sunroom. It's been too cold mostly
    until >> today.

    This morning I planted 90 onions ... the area I planted them is
    covered by a black woven weed barrier that so the soil is warmer
    than bare dirt . I'm going to wait another week or 2 to plant the
    taters since there's still a chance of a freeze here .

    i am in western New York. grow zone 5. my raised beds are
    covered with a 4 inch thick sheet of ice and a foot of snow on
    top of that. nothing is getting planted in them just yet. :)

    Slacker, making excuses (grin)
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  • From fos@fos@sdf.org to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Mar 7 13:51:32 2025
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    On 2025-02-28, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
    fos@sdf.org wrote:
    ...
    i am in western New York. grow zone 5. my raised beds are
    covered with a 4 inch thick sheet of ice and a foot of snow on
    top of that. nothing is getting planted in them just yet. :)

    it's a bit too cold yet to be planting outside and
    i don't do much inside planting either since we don't
    have much room. the local greenhouse does a good job
    for us so it works out.

    busy for me lately getting ready for a seed swap and
    going through my collection and deciding what projects
    i'll keep with and those i will let go.

    we had an out of season thaw this week and last night after work
    i was going to check the garlic bed to see if i could work it,
    but during the day the temp dropped 20 degrees and it was hella
    windy by the time i got home. this morning was even colder with
    a bit of snow blowing around. i had hopes of getting the garlic
    in the ground tomorrow (saturday) morning. i'll check, but i
    doubt it.
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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Mar 7 23:46:40 2025
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    Joy Beeson wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:27:19 -0000 (UTC), "Carol"
    <cshenk@virginia-beach.com> wrote:

    I'm looking over my goodies now.

    Mostly planning bell peppers in several colors plus cubanelles and shishitos. Tomatoes but I'll use store seedlings there. Not really decided on the rest.

    Thursday, 27 February 2025

    I poked the garden with a dandelion digger today, and it
    went down a good two inches. Two more, and I can harvest
    winter onions. It won't be in February this year, but it's
    going to be really early in March.

    I didn't harvest onions on New Year's Day because I had some
    in the fridge. The garden has been socked in ever since,
    but harvesting ten months of the year ain't bad.

    Friday, 28 February 2025

    Really early in March -- I dug three scallions just before
    supper. The ground hadn't thawed two more inches, but there
    was only a thin shell of frozen earth above the frost line.

    Since winter onions are strong, three will be a three-day
    supply for two people. (He likes the white end, I like the
    green end.)

    Works! For me, I'm more of the warmer weather plants grower.

    I got sidetracked with some other stuff but since we pretty much work
    them to outside in later April, no harm.
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Mar 7 20:50:19 2025
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    fos@sdf.org wrote:
    ...
    we had an out of season thaw this week and last night after work
    i was going to check the garlic bed to see if i could work it,
    but during the day the temp dropped 20 degrees and it was hella
    windy by the time i got home. this morning was even colder with
    a bit of snow blowing around. i had hopes of getting the garlic
    in the ground tomorrow (saturday) morning. i'll check, but i
    doubt it.

    cold here and snow the other day, it's way too early for
    any garden work and also too wet.


    songbird
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  • From flood of sins@fos@sdf.org to rec.gardens.edible on Thu Mar 13 12:56:38 2025
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    On 2025-03-08, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
    fos@sdf.org wrote:
    ...
    we had an out of season thaw this week and last night after work
    i was going to check the garlic bed to see if i could work it,
    but during the day the temp dropped 20 degrees and it was hella
    windy by the time i got home. this morning was even colder with
    a bit of snow blowing around. i had hopes of getting the garlic
    in the ground tomorrow (saturday) morning. i'll check, but i
    doubt it.

    cold here and snow the other day, it's way too early for
    any garden work and also too wet.

    had a warm snap earlier this week, upper 50s - lower 60s a
    couple days in a row. is cold again but above freezing during
    the day. yesterday was able to dig the heel of my boot in the
    garlic bed about 3 inches deep before hitting frozen solid soil.
    maybe, just maybe i'll be able to plant the garlic this weekend
    or early next week.

    a few daffodils and hyacinths are peeking out of the ground. :)
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Mar 14 20:40:40 2025
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    flood of sins wrote:
    ...
    had a warm snap earlier this week, upper 50s - lower 60s a
    couple days in a row. is cold again but above freezing during
    the day. yesterday was able to dig the heel of my boot in the
    garlic bed about 3 inches deep before hitting frozen solid soil.
    maybe, just maybe i'll be able to plant the garlic this weekend
    or early next week.

    a few daffodils and hyacinths are peeking out of the ground. :)

    we'll be seeing some of those soon here and the earliest
    planted flowers that tend to be the bulb irises. we have
    some wildflowers that pop out really quick. they are very
    tiny plants - the native bees will find them right away and
    it is funny to see a bee that is much larger than the plant
    feeding.


    songbird
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  • From flood of sins@fos@sdf.org to rec.gardens.edible on Tue Mar 18 12:48:30 2025
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    On 2025-03-15, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
    flood of sins wrote:
    ...
    had a warm snap earlier this week, upper 50s - lower 60s a
    couple days in a row. is cold again but above freezing during
    the day. yesterday was able to dig the heel of my boot in the
    garlic bed about 3 inches deep before hitting frozen solid soil.
    maybe, just maybe i'll be able to plant the garlic this weekend
    or early next week.

    a few daffodils and hyacinths are peeking out of the ground. :)

    we'll be seeing some of those soon here and the earliest
    planted flowers that tend to be the bulb irises. we have
    some wildflowers that pop out really quick. they are very
    tiny plants - the native bees will find them right away and
    it is funny to see a bee that is much larger than the plant
    feeding.

    speaking off bees, i'm over-seeding our entire front lawn (front
    half of our property) with white (dutch) clover this spring. if
    it grows well and i expect it will, i'll likely kill the grass
    and clover and grow just clover next year. nitrogen fixing so
    always green. grows low so low to no maintenance. bees absolutely
    love it. asshole next door neighbor considers it a weed and it
    spreads rather quickly. everywhere i look i see clover as a win.
    :)

    yesterday after work i grabbed a shovel and headed to the garlic
    bed expecting to loosen it up and half of it is still frozen
    solid a few inches down. mother nature, why you tease me? :/
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  • From Joy Beeson@jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid to rec.gardens.edible on Tue Mar 18 21:51:00 2025
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    Tuesday, 18 March 2025

    I havested some garlic chives yesterday, and there are
    leaves on the catnip.

    Since I don't move as fast as I used to, I grow only
    perennials, garlic, and multiplier onions. If a potato
    sprouts, I'll lay it in the garden and cover it with a mound
    of dirt from under the compost heap.

    The garlic is up, but I still have a sound bulb from last
    year, with only one clove missing. I suspect that it's an
    under-nourished giant garlic, which is really a leek.
    --
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    joy beeson at centurylink dot net
    http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.gardens.edible on Sat Mar 22 07:23:21 2025
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    flood of sins wrote:
    ...
    speaking off bees, i'm over-seeding our entire front lawn (front
    half of our property) with white (dutch) clover this spring. if
    it grows well and i expect it will, i'll likely kill the grass
    and clover and grow just clover next year. nitrogen fixing so
    always green. grows low so low to no maintenance. bees absolutely
    love it. asshole next door neighbor considers it a weed and it
    spreads rather quickly. everywhere i look i see clover as a win.
    :)

    are you trying to attract deer? you will still end up
    mowing it once in a while to control certain weeds and
    you probably don't want it reverting to forest.


    yesterday after work i grabbed a shovel and headed to the garlic
    bed expecting to loosen it up and half of it is still frozen
    solid a few inches down. mother nature, why you tease me? :/

    we've had several rounds of snow (more due this week, not
    sure yet if it will be much or what), plus windstorm that
    took the power out for a day and a half.

    i have been able to get outside and start doing some minor
    things when the weather permits - still a ways to go before
    any planting. gardens look ok. i had them in pretty good
    shape last fall right before the snows started up.


    songbird
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  • From flood of sins@fos@sdf.org to rec.gardens.edible on Thu Mar 27 11:42:18 2025
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    On 2025-03-22, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
    flood of sins wrote:
    ...
    speaking off bees, i'm over-seeding our entire front lawn (front
    half of our property) with white (dutch) clover this spring. if
    it grows well and i expect it will, i'll likely kill the grass
    and clover and grow just clover next year. nitrogen fixing so
    always green. grows low so low to no maintenance. bees absolutely
    love it. asshole next door neighbor considers it a weed and it
    spreads rather quickly. everywhere i look i see clover as a win.
    :)

    are you trying to attract deer? you will still end up
    mowing it once in a while to control certain weeds and
    you probably don't want it reverting to forest.

    i already have deer. if the clover helps keep them from from
    eating other things, or even just reduces the carnage, it'll be
    a win. i can't let it revert to a jungle, city code is enforced
    well. i wouldn't anyway. i know i'm going to need to mow, i'm
    hoping it will not be as frequent.

    yesterday after work i grabbed a shovel and headed to the garlic
    bed expecting to loosen it up and half of it is still frozen
    solid a few inches down. mother nature, why you tease me? :/

    we've had several rounds of snow (more due this week, not
    sure yet if it will be much or what), plus windstorm that
    took the power out for a day and a half.

    i have been able to get outside and start doing some minor
    things when the weather permits - still a ways to go before
    any planting. gardens look ok. i had them in pretty good
    shape last fall right before the snows started up.

    we had an inch of snow yesterday morning. weather has been great
    for the maple syrup producers. tree sap flows best when
    temperatures are below freezing at night and above during the day.

    https://www.mapleweekend.com

    temperatures aren't so great for thawing my garden beds. all i
    care about right now is the garlic. we eat A LOT of it and the
    garlic at retailers and even nearby farmers markets isn't near
    as flavorful. maybe this weekend. if it doesn't rain to much. :/
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