• Aphids - this time on honeysuckle

    From Wilson@nowhere@nearyou.com to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Jun 21 15:23:53 2024
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    I know this isn't an actual garden question, but I have some beautiful Coral Honeysuckle that for the past 3 years has been getting ravaged with aphids. Just as soon as the blossoms come on, these critters kill them.

    I've tried making some spray with rhubarb leaves, but that didn't work - certainly not fast enough.

    Any organic suggestions I can use?
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Jun 21 14:16:05 2024
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    On 6/21/24 12:23, Wilson wrote:
    I know this isn't an actual garden question, but I have some beautiful
    Coral Honeysuckle that for the past 3 years has been getting ravaged
    with aphids. Just as soon as the blossoms come on, these critters kill
    them.

    I've tried making some spray with rhubarb leaves, but that didn't work - certainly not fast enough.

    Any organic suggestions I can use?

    Hi Wilson,

    Yes there are.

    Two things you have to do.

    1) power wash them with soapy (detergent) water. Seventh
    Generation Dish liquid Free and Clear is what I use. It
    is completely biodegradable. Get one of those hose
    attachment bottles for spraying things on your lawn.

    2) kill off the ants that are farming the aphids.
    Mix borax washing soda (Walmart) with hot water
    and really cheap honey (Walmart). Make a gooey
    paste. Apply all over the place.

    Optional, after you kill off the ants: unleash lady bugs
    on them. Apply in the cool of the morning so they won't
    just fly off. But the ants must go first as they will kill
    the lady bugs to protect the aphids.

    Death to aphids!
    Death to squash bugs!
    Death to earwigs!

    -T
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.gardens.edible on Sat Jun 22 00:01:40 2024
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    T wrote:
    On 6/21/24 12:23, Wilson wrote:
    I know this isn't an actual garden question, but I have some beautiful
    Coral Honeysuckle that for the past 3 years has been getting ravaged
    with aphids. Just as soon as the blossoms come on, these critters kill
    them.

    I've tried making some spray with rhubarb leaves, but that didn't work -
    certainly not fast enough.

    Any organic suggestions I can use?

    Hi Wilson,

    Yes there are.

    Two things you have to do.

    1) power wash them with soapy (detergent) water. Seventh
    Generation Dish liquid Free and Clear is what I use. It
    is completely biodegradable. Get one of those hose
    attachment bottles for spraying things on your lawn.

    2) kill off the ants that are farming the aphids.
    Mix borax washing soda (Walmart) with hot water
    and really cheap honey (Walmart). Make a gooey
    paste. Apply all over the place.

    Optional, after you kill off the ants: unleash lady bugs
    on them. Apply in the cool of the morning so they won't
    just fly off. But the ants must go first as they will kill
    the lady bugs to protect the aphids.

    it is very hard to kill off all ants but it may
    help to knock them back temporarily. personally, i
    don't try to control ants here unless they are trying
    to set up a new home in the house.

    the more inert dilute soap spray may do the job
    for both the ants and the aphids at least to knock
    them back and then the ladybugs will help keep things
    under control.

    it will help a lot to learn how to keep lady bugs
    around and to encourage other lady bug predators. i
    don't see aphids here often.


    songbird
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Jun 21 23:17:26 2024
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    On 6/21/24 21:01, songbird wrote:
    T wrote:
    On 6/21/24 12:23, Wilson wrote:
    I know this isn't an actual garden question, but I have some beautiful
    Coral Honeysuckle that for the past 3 years has been getting ravaged
    with aphids. Just as soon as the blossoms come on, these critters kill
    them.

    I've tried making some spray with rhubarb leaves, but that didn't work - >>> certainly not fast enough.

    Any organic suggestions I can use?

    Hi Wilson,

    Yes there are.

    Two things you have to do.

    1) power wash them with soapy (detergent) water. Seventh
    Generation Dish liquid Free and Clear is what I use. It
    is completely biodegradable. Get one of those hose
    attachment bottles for spraying things on your lawn.

    2) kill off the ants that are farming the aphids.
    Mix borax washing soda (Walmart) with hot water
    and really cheap honey (Walmart). Make a gooey
    paste. Apply all over the place.

    Optional, after you kill off the ants: unleash lady bugs
    on them. Apply in the cool of the morning so they won't
    just fly off. But the ants must go first as they will kill
    the lady bugs to protect the aphids.

    it is very hard to kill off all ants but it may
    help to knock them back temporarily. personally, i
    don't try to control ants here unless they are trying
    to set up a new home in the house.

    the more inert dilute soap spray may do the job
    for both the ants and the aphids at least to knock
    them back and then the ladybugs will help keep things
    under control.

    it will help a lot to learn how to keep lady bugs
    around and to encourage other lady bug predators. i
    don't see aphids here often.


    songbird


    Hi Songbird,

    The soapy water plus the pressure spray will knock
    them off the plant. Because they will have lost
    their wings, it is very hard for them to crawl
    back up. And the soapy water will drown them.

    Ants that are farming aphids will attack and kill
    lady bugs. If you put your hand on a stem full
    of aphids that are ant farmed, the ants will
    immediately bit you.

    My #2 above works by the workers taking the borax
    back to and feeding the queen it. It is non-toxic
    (it destroys their digestive system) so they can't
    get immune to it. Think Roach Proof for ants.

    Since it is slow, it will take a few days, but it will
    wipe out the entire colony. But other neighboring
    ants will eventually move in. Take a while though.

    The ants have to go before lady bugs will work.

    Death to aphids!
    Death to squash bugs!
    Death to earwigs!

    -T




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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.gardens.edible on Sat Jun 22 06:09:11 2024
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    songbird wrote:
    ...
    it will help a lot to learn how to keep lady bugs
    around and to encourage other lady bug predators. i
    don't see aphids here often.

    that should read aphid predators... duh...


    songbird
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  • From Wilson@nowhere@nearyou.com to rec.gardens.edible on Sun Jun 23 11:22:20 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 6/21/2024 5:16 PM, T wrote:
    On 6/21/24 12:23, Wilson wrote:
    I know this isn't an actual garden question, but I have some beautiful
    Coral Honeysuckle that for the past 3 years has been getting ravaged with >> aphids. Just as soon as the blossoms come on, these critters kill them.

    I've tried making some spray with rhubarb leaves, but that didn't work -
    certainly not fast enough.

    Any organic suggestions I can use?

    Hi Wilson,

    Yes there are.

    Two things you have to do.

    1) power wash them with soapy (detergent) water.-a Seventh
    Generation Dish liquid Free and Clear is what I use.-a It
    is completely biodegradable.-a Get one of those hose
    attachment bottles for spraying things on your lawn.

    2) kill off the ants that are farming the aphids.
    Mix borax washing soda (Walmart) with hot water
    and really cheap honey (Walmart).-a Make a gooey
    paste.-a Apply all over the place.

    Optional, after you kill off the ants: unleash lady bugs
    on them.-a Apply in the cool of the morning so they won't
    just fly off.-a But the ants must go first as they will kill
    the lady bugs to protect the aphids.

    Death to aphids!
    Death to squash bugs!
    Death to earwigs!

    -T
    Thanks, T. I'll have to try the power wash thing with the hose. I have used Safer's Soap without any real success.

    There are some ants and I've heard of them farming aphids, but not really noticing them getting together. I have a hummingbird feeder up that attracts some ants. I use Boraxo & sugar and it does work. Mentioned honey to the
    wife and she immediately thought of some old corn syrup which we think would work.

    I'm thinking that after I power spray the plant, I'll put some Boraxo &
    sugar underneath the plant. I'm going to check on it's effect on plants
    first, but I've seen not die-off where I've put it along the boarder of my garage for wood ants.

    Funny thing with lady bugs, we were inundated with them all winter long in
    our house. Mostly those Japanese ones with the 'M' or 'W' on their heads, depending on which way your looking. Now, very few if any around.

    The neighbors have some of the same honeysuckle, but no aphids that I can see.

    Thanks!
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  • From Wilson@nowhere@nearyou.com to rec.gardens.edible on Sun Jun 23 11:28:22 2024
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    On 6/22/2024 12:01 AM, songbird wrote:
    T wrote:
    On 6/21/24 12:23, Wilson wrote:
    I know this isn't an actual garden question, but I have some beautiful
    Coral Honeysuckle that for the past 3 years has been getting ravaged
    with aphids. Just as soon as the blossoms come on, these critters kill
    them.

    I've tried making some spray with rhubarb leaves, but that didn't work - >>> certainly not fast enough.

    Any organic suggestions I can use?

    Hi Wilson,

    Yes there are.

    Two things you have to do.

    1) power wash them with soapy (detergent) water. Seventh
    Generation Dish liquid Free and Clear is what I use. It
    is completely biodegradable. Get one of those hose
    attachment bottles for spraying things on your lawn.

    2) kill off the ants that are farming the aphids.
    Mix borax washing soda (Walmart) with hot water
    and really cheap honey (Walmart). Make a gooey
    paste. Apply all over the place.

    Optional, after you kill off the ants: unleash lady bugs
    on them. Apply in the cool of the morning so they won't
    just fly off. But the ants must go first as they will kill
    the lady bugs to protect the aphids.

    it is very hard to kill off all ants but it may
    help to knock them back temporarily. personally, i
    don't try to control ants here unless they are trying
    to set up a new home in the house.

    the more inert dilute soap spray may do the job
    for both the ants and the aphids at least to knock
    them back and then the ladybugs will help keep things
    under control.

    it will help a lot to learn how to keep lady bugs
    around and to encourage other lady bug predators. i
    don't see aphids here often.


    songbird
    I've seen a lot to aphids on my lupines too. I may have some plants that are hosting the aphids more than others. It's just that the honeysuckle was so beautiful when blooming as they do all summer long, I hate them getting shut down before they get started. Thanks.
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  • From Wilson@nowhere@nearyou.com to rec.gardens.edible on Sun Jun 23 11:47:41 2024
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    On 6/23/2024 11:22 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/21/2024 5:16 PM, T wrote:
    On 6/21/24 12:23, Wilson wrote:
    I know this isn't an actual garden question, but I have some beautiful
    Coral Honeysuckle that for the past 3 years has been getting ravaged with >>> aphids. Just as soon as the blossoms come on, these critters kill them.

    I've tried making some spray with rhubarb leaves, but that didn't work - >>> certainly not fast enough.

    Any organic suggestions I can use?

    Hi Wilson,

    Yes there are.

    Two things you have to do.

    1) power wash them with soapy (detergent) water.-a Seventh
    Generation Dish liquid Free and Clear is what I use.-a It
    is completely biodegradable.-a Get one of those hose
    attachment bottles for spraying things on your lawn.

    2) kill off the ants that are farming the aphids.
    Mix borax washing soda (Walmart) with hot water
    and really cheap honey (Walmart).-a Make a gooey
    paste.-a Apply all over the place.

    Optional, after you kill off the ants: unleash lady bugs
    on them.-a Apply in the cool of the morning so they won't
    just fly off.-a But the ants must go first as they will kill
    the lady bugs to protect the aphids.

    Death to aphids!
    Death to squash bugs!
    Death to earwigs!

    -T
    Thanks, T. I'll have to try the power wash thing with the hose. I have used Safer's Soap without any real success.

    There are some ants and I've heard of them farming aphids, but not really noticing them getting together. I have a hummingbird feeder up that attracts some ants. I use Boraxo & sugar and it does work. Mentioned honey to the wife and she immediately thought of some old corn syrup which we think would work.

    I'm thinking that after I power spray the plant, I'll put some Boraxo & sugar underneath the plant. I'm going to check on it's effect on plants first, but I've seen not die-off where I've put it along the boarder of my garage for wood ants.

    Funny thing with lady bugs, we were inundated with them all winter long in our house. Mostly those Japanese ones with the 'M' or 'W' on their heads, depending on which way your looking. Now, very few if any around.

    The neighbors have some of the same honeysuckle, but no aphids that I can see.

    Thanks!
    I mentioned BORAXO, but really meant BORAX.
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  • From Snag@Snag_one@msn.com to rec.gardens.edible on Sun Jun 23 11:04:41 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 6/23/2024 10:47 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/23/2024 11:22 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/21/2024 5:16 PM, T wrote:
    On 6/21/24 12:23, Wilson wrote:
    I know this isn't an actual garden question, but I have some
    beautiful Coral Honeysuckle that for the past 3 years has been
    getting ravaged with aphids. Just as soon as the blossoms come on,
    these critters kill them.

    I've tried making some spray with rhubarb leaves, but that didn't
    work - certainly not fast enough.

    Any organic suggestions I can use?

    Hi Wilson,

    Yes there are.

    Two things you have to do.

    1) power wash them with soapy (detergent) water.-a Seventh
    Generation Dish liquid Free and Clear is what I use.-a It
    is completely biodegradable.-a Get one of those hose
    attachment bottles for spraying things on your lawn.

    2) kill off the ants that are farming the aphids.
    Mix borax washing soda (Walmart) with hot water
    and really cheap honey (Walmart).-a Make a gooey
    paste.-a Apply all over the place.

    Optional, after you kill off the ants: unleash lady bugs
    on them.-a Apply in the cool of the morning so they won't
    just fly off.-a But the ants must go first as they will kill
    the lady bugs to protect the aphids.

    Death to aphids!
    Death to squash bugs!
    Death to earwigs!

    -T
    Thanks, T. I'll have to try the power wash thing with the hose. I have
    used Safer's Soap without any real success.

    There are some ants and I've heard of them farming aphids, but not
    really noticing them getting together. I have a hummingbird feeder up
    that attracts some ants. I use Boraxo & sugar and it does work.
    Mentioned honey to the wife and she immediately thought of some old
    corn syrup which we think would work.

    I'm thinking that after I power spray the plant, I'll put some Boraxo
    & sugar underneath the plant. I'm going to check on it's effect on
    plants first, but I've seen not die-off where I've put it along the
    boarder of my garage for wood ants.

    Funny thing with lady bugs, we were inundated with them all winter
    long in our house. Mostly those Japanese ones with the 'M' or 'W' on
    their heads, depending on which way your looking. Now, very few if any
    around.

    The neighbors have some of the same honeysuckle, but no aphids that I
    can see.

    Thanks!
    I mentioned BORAXO, but really meant BORAX.

    Add some diatomaceous earth to the mix , it abrades the waxy coating
    on hard shell insects and they dry to death .
    --
    Snag
    It's great to be straight !
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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Sun Jun 23 16:58:35 2024
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    Snag wrote:

    On 6/23/2024 10:47 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/23/2024 11:22 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/21/2024 5:16 PM, T wrote:
    On 6/21/24 12:23, Wilson wrote:
    I know this isn't an actual garden question, but I have some beautiful Coral Honeysuckle that for the past 3 years has
    been getting ravaged with aphids. Just as soon as the
    blossoms come on, these critters kill them.

    I've tried making some spray with rhubarb leaves, but that
    didn't work - certainly not fast enough.

    Any organic suggestions I can use?

    Hi Wilson,

    Yes there are.

    Two things you have to do.

    1) power wash them with soapy (detergent) water.-a Seventh
    Generation Dish liquid Free and Clear is what I use.-a It
    is completely biodegradable.-a Get one of those hose
    attachment bottles for spraying things on your lawn.

    2) kill off the ants that are farming the aphids.
    Mix borax washing soda (Walmart) with hot water
    and really cheap honey (Walmart).-a Make a gooey
    paste.-a Apply all over the place.

    Optional, after you kill off the ants: unleash lady bugs
    on them.-a Apply in the cool of the morning so they won't
    just fly off.-a But the ants must go first as they will kill
    the lady bugs to protect the aphids.

    Death to aphids!
    Death to squash bugs!
    Death to earwigs!

    -T
    Thanks, T. I'll have to try the power wash thing with the hose. I
    have used Safer's Soap without any real success.

    There are some ants and I've heard of them farming aphids, but
    not really noticing them getting together. I have a hummingbird
    feeder up that attracts some ants. I use Boraxo & sugar and it
    does work. Mentioned honey to the wife and she immediately
    thought of some old corn syrup which we think would work.

    I'm thinking that after I power spray the plant, I'll put some
    Boraxo & sugar underneath the plant. I'm going to check on it's
    effect on plants first, but I've seen not die-off where I've put
    it along the boarder of my garage for wood ants.

    Funny thing with lady bugs, we were inundated with them all
    winter long in our house. Mostly those Japanese ones with the
    'M' or 'W' on their heads, depending on which way your looking.
    Now, very few if any around.

    The neighbors have some of the same honeysuckle, but no aphids
    that I can see.

    Thanks!
    I mentioned BORAXO, but really meant BORAX.

    Add some diatomaceous earth to the mix , it abrades the waxy coating
    on hard shell insects and they dry to death .

    i don't know about degrading but it's tiny chips of sharp silicon and
    cuts the carapace then they die of dehydration as you say. Dust the
    plant all over with it dry and it works best. Also kills fleas and
    bedbugs.

    Harmless unless you breathe a lot in. (causes silicosis of the lungs).
    Just dig out a covid mask and wear it properly! No gaps...
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  • From Snag@Snag_one@msn.com to rec.gardens.edible on Sun Jun 23 13:36:16 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 6/23/2024 11:58 AM, cshenk wrote:
    Snag wrote:

    On 6/23/2024 10:47 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/23/2024 11:22 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/21/2024 5:16 PM, T wrote:
    On 6/21/24 12:23, Wilson wrote:
    I know this isn't an actual garden question, but I have some
    beautiful Coral Honeysuckle that for the past 3 years has
    been getting ravaged with aphids. Just as soon as the
    blossoms come on, these critters kill them.

    I've tried making some spray with rhubarb leaves, but that
    didn't work - certainly not fast enough.

    Any organic suggestions I can use?

    Hi Wilson,

    Yes there are.

    Two things you have to do.

    1) power wash them with soapy (detergent) water.-a Seventh
    Generation Dish liquid Free and Clear is what I use.-a It
    is completely biodegradable.-a Get one of those hose
    attachment bottles for spraying things on your lawn.

    2) kill off the ants that are farming the aphids.
    Mix borax washing soda (Walmart) with hot water
    and really cheap honey (Walmart).-a Make a gooey
    paste.-a Apply all over the place.

    Optional, after you kill off the ants: unleash lady bugs
    on them.-a Apply in the cool of the morning so they won't
    just fly off.-a But the ants must go first as they will kill
    the lady bugs to protect the aphids.

    Death to aphids!
    Death to squash bugs!
    Death to earwigs!

    -T
    Thanks, T. I'll have to try the power wash thing with the hose. I
    have used Safer's Soap without any real success.

    There are some ants and I've heard of them farming aphids, but
    not really noticing them getting together. I have a hummingbird
    feeder up that attracts some ants. I use Boraxo & sugar and it
    does work. Mentioned honey to the wife and she immediately
    thought of some old corn syrup which we think would work.

    I'm thinking that after I power spray the plant, I'll put some
    Boraxo & sugar underneath the plant. I'm going to check on it's
    effect on plants first, but I've seen not die-off where I've put
    it along the boarder of my garage for wood ants.

    Funny thing with lady bugs, we were inundated with them all
    winter long in our house. Mostly those Japanese ones with the
    'M' or 'W' on their heads, depending on which way your looking.
    Now, very few if any around.

    The neighbors have some of the same honeysuckle, but no aphids
    that I can see.

    Thanks!
    I mentioned BORAXO, but really meant BORAX.

    Add some diatomaceous earth to the mix , it abrades the waxy coating
    on hard shell insects and they dry to death .

    i don't know about degrading but it's tiny chips of sharp silicon and
    cuts the carapace then they die of dehydration as you say. Dust the
    plant all over with it dry and it works best. Also kills fleas and
    bedbugs.

    Harmless unless you breathe a lot in. (causes silicosis of the lungs).
    Just dig out a covid mask and wear it properly! No gaps...


    I said "abrade , to scrape or wear away by friction or erosion" , not "degrade" . Close enough to get the message across I guess .
    --
    Snag
    It's great to be straight !
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to rec.gardens.edible on Sun Jun 23 17:12:20 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 6/23/24 08:22, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/21/2024 5:16 PM, T wrote:
    On 6/21/24 12:23, Wilson wrote:
    I know this isn't an actual garden question, but I have some
    beautiful Coral Honeysuckle that for the past 3 years has been
    getting ravaged with aphids. Just as soon as the blossoms come on,
    these critters kill them.

    I've tried making some spray with rhubarb leaves, but that didn't
    work - certainly not fast enough.

    Any organic suggestions I can use?

    Hi Wilson,

    Yes there are.

    Two things you have to do.

    1) power wash them with soapy (detergent) water.-a Seventh
    Generation Dish liquid Free and Clear is what I use.-a It
    is completely biodegradable.-a Get one of those hose
    attachment bottles for spraying things on your lawn.

    2) kill off the ants that are farming the aphids.
    Mix borax washing soda (Walmart) with hot water
    and really cheap honey (Walmart).-a Make a gooey
    paste.-a Apply all over the place.

    Optional, after you kill off the ants: unleash lady bugs
    on them.-a Apply in the cool of the morning so they won't
    just fly off.-a But the ants must go first as they will kill
    the lady bugs to protect the aphids.

    Death to aphids!
    Death to squash bugs!
    Death to earwigs!

    -T
    Thanks, T. I'll have to try the power wash thing with the hose. I have
    used Safer's Soap without any real success.

    Safer Soap is over hyped. And dish washing detergent will
    work just fine. I use the seventh Gen free and clear
    because it does not have perfumes and is totally
    biodegradable. I have even killed squash bugs with it.
    It is great on flies and black widows too.

    There are some ants and I've heard of them farming aphids, but not
    really noticing them getting together. I have a hummingbird feeder up
    that attracts some ants. I use Boraxo & sugar and it does work.
    Mentioned honey to the wife and she immediately thought of some old corn syrup which we think would work.

    Ants LOVE corn syrup! You know, I wonder which is cheaper corn
    syrup or honey. Ant love the corn syrup in Coca Cola.

    I'm thinking that after I power spray the plant, I'll put some Boraxo & sugar underneath the plant.

    You don't have to put it under the plant. Ant will find it,
    even 10 feet away. That being said, I have wiped it on
    the leaves and stems of my Goji berries. No harm was done.

    I'm going to check on it's effect on plants
    first, but I've seen not die-off where I've put it along the boarder of
    my garage for wood ants.

    Funny thing with lady bugs, we were inundated with them all winter long
    in our house. Mostly those Japanese ones with the 'M' or 'W' on their
    heads, depending on which way your looking. Now, very few if any around.

    I do not know what kind of lady bugs we have, but I know they
    will bite you if provoked.


    The neighbors have some of the same honeysuckle, but no aphids that I
    can see.

    Thanks!

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  • From Wilson@nowhere@nearyou.com to rec.gardens.edible on Mon Jun 24 09:51:00 2024
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    On 6/23/2024 8:12 PM, T wrote:
    On 6/23/24 08:22, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/21/2024 5:16 PM, T wrote:
    On 6/21/24 12:23, Wilson wrote:
    I know this isn't an actual garden question, but I have some beautiful >>>> Coral Honeysuckle that for the past 3 years has been getting ravaged
    with aphids. Just as soon as the blossoms come on, these critters kill >>>> them.

    I've tried making some spray with rhubarb leaves, but that didn't work - >>>> certainly not fast enough.

    Any organic suggestions I can use?

    Hi Wilson,

    Yes there are.

    Two things you have to do.

    1) power wash them with soapy (detergent) water.-a Seventh
    Generation Dish liquid Free and Clear is what I use.-a It
    is completely biodegradable.-a Get one of those hose
    attachment bottles for spraying things on your lawn.

    2) kill off the ants that are farming the aphids.
    Mix borax washing soda (Walmart) with hot water
    and really cheap honey (Walmart).-a Make a gooey
    paste.-a Apply all over the place.

    Optional, after you kill off the ants: unleash lady bugs
    on them.-a Apply in the cool of the morning so they won't
    just fly off.-a But the ants must go first as they will kill
    the lady bugs to protect the aphids.

    Death to aphids!
    Death to squash bugs!
    Death to earwigs!

    -T
    Thanks, T. I'll have to try the power wash thing with the hose. I have
    used Safer's Soap without any real success.

    Safer Soap is over hyped.-a And dish washing detergent will
    work just fine.-a I use the seventh Gen free and clear
    because-a it does not have perfumes and is totally
    biodegradable.-a I have even killed squash bugs with it.
    It is great on flies and black widows too.

    There are some ants and I've heard of them farming aphids, but not really >> noticing them getting together. I have a hummingbird feeder up that
    attracts some ants. I use Boraxo & sugar and it does work. Mentioned honey >> to the wife and she immediately thought of some old corn syrup which we
    think would work.

    Ants LOVE corn syrup!-a You know, I wonder which is cheaper corn
    syrup or honey.-a Ant love the corn syrup in Coca Cola.
    Pretty sure corn syrup is cheaper, besides I have some corn syrup 'lite' I bought by accident when I was trying to make Sea Foam Candy - failed.

    I'm thinking that after I power spray the plant, I'll put some Boraxo &
    sugar underneath the plant.

    You don't have to put it under the plant.-a Ant will find it,
    even 10 feet away.-a That being said, I have wiped it on
    the leaves and stems of my Goji berries.-a No harm was done.

    I'm going to check on it's effect on plants first, but I've seen not
    die-off where I've put it along the boarder of my garage for wood ants.

    Funny thing with lady bugs, we were inundated with them all winter long in >> our house. Mostly those Japanese ones with the 'M' or 'W' on their heads, >> depending on which way your looking. Now, very few if any around.

    I do not know what kind of lady bugs we have, but I know they
    will bite you if provoked.


    The neighbors have some of the same honeysuckle, but no aphids that I can >> see.

    Thanks!

    I will continue the battle!
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  • From Wilson@nowhere@nearyou.com to rec.gardens.edible on Mon Jun 24 09:53:10 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 6/23/2024 12:04 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 6/23/2024 10:47 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/23/2024 11:22 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/21/2024 5:16 PM, T wrote:
    On 6/21/24 12:23, Wilson wrote:
    I know this isn't an actual garden question, but I have some beautiful >>>>> Coral Honeysuckle that for the past 3 years has been getting ravaged >>>>> with aphids. Just as soon as the blossoms come on, these critters kill >>>>> them.

    I've tried making some spray with rhubarb leaves, but that didn't work >>>>> - certainly not fast enough.

    Any organic suggestions I can use?

    Hi Wilson,

    Yes there are.

    Two things you have to do.

    1) power wash them with soapy (detergent) water.-a Seventh
    Generation Dish liquid Free and Clear is what I use.-a It
    is completely biodegradable.-a Get one of those hose
    attachment bottles for spraying things on your lawn.

    2) kill off the ants that are farming the aphids.
    Mix borax washing soda (Walmart) with hot water
    and really cheap honey (Walmart).-a Make a gooey
    paste.-a Apply all over the place.

    Optional, after you kill off the ants: unleash lady bugs
    on them.-a Apply in the cool of the morning so they won't
    just fly off.-a But the ants must go first as they will kill
    the lady bugs to protect the aphids.

    Death to aphids!
    Death to squash bugs!
    Death to earwigs!

    -T
    Thanks, T. I'll have to try the power wash thing with the hose. I have
    used Safer's Soap without any real success.

    There are some ants and I've heard of them farming aphids, but not really >>> noticing them getting together. I have a hummingbird feeder up that
    attracts some ants. I use Boraxo & sugar and it does work. Mentioned
    honey to the wife and she immediately thought of some old corn syrup
    which we think would work.

    I'm thinking that after I power spray the plant, I'll put some Boraxo & >>> sugar underneath the plant. I'm going to check on it's effect on plants >>> first, but I've seen not die-off where I've put it along the boarder of >>> my garage for wood ants.

    Funny thing with lady bugs, we were inundated with them all winter long >>> in our house. Mostly those Japanese ones with the 'M' or 'W' on their
    heads, depending on which way your looking. Now, very few if any around. >>>
    The neighbors have some of the same honeysuckle, but no aphids that I can >>> see.

    Thanks!
    I mentioned BORAXO, but really meant BORAX.

    -a Add some diatomaceous earth to the mix , it abrades the waxy coating on hard shell insects and they dry to death .
    I do have some diatomaceous earth on hand. My experience with it is that
    it's hard to tell if it's doing it's job. Sometimes, I grow impatient with 'organic' solutions. sigh
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to rec.gardens.edible on Tue Jun 25 01:47:39 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 6/24/24 06:53, Wilson wrote:
    Sometimes, I grow impatient with 'organic' solutions. sigh

    Slow gets the queen and wipes out the colony.

    If what you are after is the sight of a bunch of dead
    ants, just spray them with vinegar.


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